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bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
You would be surprised by the poo poo I see and hear daily from these chuckefucks

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Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




bunnyofdoom posted:

You would be surprised by the poo poo I see and hear daily from these chuckefucks

But enough about the LPC.

:downsrim:

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

PT6A posted:

Are the ones in other provinces as completely loving illiterate? How do you make it this far in your life without seeing "coup d'etat" in print?

Someone else later pointed out it was "spelled in English". Both these people need to be fed face first into a woodchipper because they will never be any value to anyone except as fertilizer. How can people be that stupid?

Have you ever been to rural BC and met its people? Or Rural (any province). Same people.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Baronjutter posted:

Have you ever been to rural BC and met its people? Or Rural (any province). Same people.

I grew up in rural BC, but I guess when I moved I always guessed that people kept learning things after age 10. Evidently I was mistaken.

I mean... "Kudatah?" Are you loving kidding me? I guess hookt awn fonix reelee werkt four him.

Edit: If the RCMP sent undercover officers to "help" this idiot overthrow the provincial government, would it be entrapment?

PT6A fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Jan 14, 2016

ChairMaster
Aug 22, 2009

by R. Guyovich
It's funnier to me that there are people who think Canadian Manufacturing will ever be a real thing ever again than I can really even believe.

How loving dumb and totally blind to the realities of the modern world do you even have to be to think that could happen? Honestly It might be dumber than kudatah.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

ChairMaster posted:

It's funnier to me that there are people who think Canadian Manufacturing will ever be a real thing ever again than I can really even believe.

How loving dumb and totally blind to the realities of the modern world do you even have to be to think that could happen? Honestly It might be dumber than kudatah.

I think that's comparing apples to oranges. Thinking Canadian manufacturing is going to suddenly be resurgent is a failure to consider the current economic context and apply logic to it. Misspelling a reasonably common word is evidence you haven't graduated junior high school.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

The Butcher posted:

The invisible hand makes a dismissive gesture and looks away.

Not sure that gesture was "dismissive"

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

PT6A posted:

Apparently one of the illiterate morons in my province has called for a "kudatah" against the NDP on social media. I can only surmise that Ricky grew tired of Sunnyvale and decided to come out west.

Don't worry, the government can C-51 those fuckers for, uh, plotting against democracy. Right?



e: I'd hoped he would be from another province, just checked, I'm so sorry

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Jan 14, 2016

Karatela
Sep 11, 2001

Clickzorz!!!


Grimey Drawer
I have to admit, the fact I can see a headline like this about Alberta and not be filled with dread over it being awful, and then find I haven't been tricked and it is indeed not terrible, is... Strange. Is this what having a decent government is like?

Alberta students to define their own gender: 5 big changes in new school guidelines (Bolding is in article)

CBC posted:

Schools should erase old divides that force students into male and female roles, according to new guidelines released Wednesday by the Alberta government that advise teachers to let kids choose which washroom they want to use and what name appears on their report cards.

A 21-page document, introduced by Education Minister David Eggen, advised educators that students have the right to self-identify when it comes to their gender identity and gender expression.

The practical implications for school operations could prove to be vast and lead to fundamental changes in the way children are educated in Alberta.

Here are five particularly significant components of the new guidelines. We've also included a copy of the entire document at the end.

1. Pick your own pronoun

The guidelines advise teachers to address each student by whatever name — and pronoun — that particular student chooses, based on how the student self-identifies.

"All individuals have the right to be addressed by their chosen name and to choose pronouns that align with their gender identity and/or gender expression," the document states.

It goes on to say: "Some individuals may not feel included in the use of the pronouns 'he' or 'she' and may prefer alternate pronouns, such as 'ze,' 'zir,' 'hir,' 'they' or 'them,' or might wish to express themselves or self-identify in other ways (e.g., Mx. instead or Mr., Mrs., Ms., or Miss, or no prefix at all)."

Legal names are still to be used by default for a school's local student information system and on official transcripts, credentials and provincial assessments.

School staff are encouraged to use students' preferred names on a day-to-day basis, however, including on written report cards, and to refrain from attaching "male" or "female" to students' names in school records.

"When creating student/staff lists, school staff ensure gender designations are not included either beside individual names or as a composite number for the group," the document states.

2. Play for the boys or girls team

As much as possible, the guidelines call for the elimination of separate activities for students based on gender.

"For example, they avoid structuring courses or activities based on gender-specific roles such as 'boys' versus 'girls' in academic, athletic or talent competitions," the document states.

When it comes to sports teams, in particular, the guidelines say students should be "given the opportunity to participate on the team that reflects their gender identity and expression."

Students who do not feel comfortable in a group setting should also be given the option for "independent study to earn physical education credits," the document advises.

3. Use male or female washrooms, or neither

It should be up to each individual whether they use a washroom designated for males or females, according to the guidelines.

Specifically, the document states that students should be "able to access washrooms that are congruent with their gender identity."

In addition, schools are advised to provide at least one "non-gendered, single-stall washroom for use by any student who desires increased privacy, regardless of the reason."

This type of washroom should be also be "easily accessible" and, ideally, schools should provide several such washrooms for all students, staff and visitors to use.

4. Pick the change room you prefer

When it comes to change rooms, all students are to have access to "facilities that meet their individual needs and privacy concerns."

This could include a private area with a common change room or a separate area, such as a nearby washroom, for students to use if they don't want to change with the group.

This also applies to any student "who objects to sharing a washroom or change-room with a student who is trans or gender-diverse," or in the event that a parent or caregiver objects on behalf of a child.

In such cases, the student with an objection would be offered an alternative location to change in.

School staff should take a "whole-school approach" to ensuring all students have safe changing spaces, the guidelines advise, including "communicating clear behaviour expectations to all students, increasing adult presence and supervision, and monitoring key areas of the building and grounds."

5. Establish gay-straight alliances

Now that gay-straight alliances (GSAs) have been made mandatory at any school where students want one, school staff are advised to support the establishment of the support groups whenever students express an interest in creating one.

It's also to be made clear to students that they have this right.

People in positions of authority over school staff members, themselves, are also advised to "anticipate, support and value staff diversity, including diverse sexual orientations, gender identities and gender expressions."

Staff should also be supported to serve as a liaison for student-organized support groups such as GSAs, according to the guidelines.

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum

Moinkmaster posted:

I have to admit, the fact I can see a headline like this about Alberta and not be filled with dread over it being awful, and then find I haven't been tricked and it is indeed not terrible, is... Strange. Is this what having a decent government is like?

Alberta students to define their own gender: 5 big changes in new school guidelines (Bolding is in article)

I've started seeing this movement as the last blow against lingering Victorian puritanism in society. Here's hoping we can stop freaking out over naked tits and dongs in a generation or three.

Either that or we'll burn as our society loses all cohesion, and implodes like someone kicked the rafters out.

de_dust
Jan 21, 2009

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

ChairMaster posted:

It's funnier to me that there are people who think Canadian Manufacturing will ever be a real thing ever again than I can really even believe.

How loving dumb and totally blind to the realities of the modern world do you even have to be to think that could happen? Honestly It might be dumber than kudatah.

At this point I don't even understand why Canada even exists, we should just fold and join the USA already.

Number Two Stunna
Nov 8, 2009

FUCK
I've read a couple of articles that argue that certain international treaties that Canada has signed will prevent us from legalizing marijuana, sounds retarded to me, but is there actually anything to that? It sounds like it's pretty simple to just drop out of a UN treaty and say "we're pursuing our own policy on drugs" but whatever.

Number Two Stunna
Nov 8, 2009

FUCK

ChairMaster posted:

It's funnier to me that there are people who think Canadian Manufacturing will ever be a real thing ever again than I can really even believe.

How loving dumb and totally blind to the realities of the modern world do you even have to be to think that could happen? Honestly It might be dumber than kudatah.

There's more of it than you'd think. The big companies have all outsourced or folded, but there are a lot of small companies out there that still make things, esp. for industrial uses.

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum

ChairMaster posted:

It's funnier to me that there are people who think Canadian Manufacturing will ever be a real thing ever again than I can really even believe.

How loving dumb and totally blind to the realities of the modern world do you even have to be to think that could happen? Honestly It might be dumber than kudatah.

Dude I work in plastics right now, the last industry that should be profitable or even exist in Canada in TYOOL 2016, and we have bought 4 machines in two months because of the number of new clients flooding into us. One has moved 100% of their production from California to us, and another has ceased purchasing from China and made us their sole supplier. Why? Because not everything is an iPhone, and many supply chains require a faster turnaround time than the month it takes to slowboat an order from Shenzhen. Especially when we're talking low volume orders which wouldn't fill a full cargo container, and would thus need to wait to split it with someone else headed to the same port. This can be a huge headache and lead to quite an impressive storage bill.

When you're not involved in an industry, or lack any industrial perspective at all, it's easy to just not grasp how many minor players there are in this country which are making bank. Sure, the days of multi-acre assembly lines are in the grave and never returning in Canada, but the small shops? The factories with less than 50 employees bringing in $10m or less net a year? That sector just tossed back an entire box of Viagra thanks to the CAD making GBS threads itself.

Playstation 4
Apr 25, 2014
Unlockable Ben

Number Two Stunna posted:

There's more of it than you'd think. The big companies have all outsourced or folded, but there are a lot of small companies out there that still make things, esp. for industrial uses.

Oh yeah, I see that stuff shipped through my company all the time. Loads and loads of home manufactured stuff almost universally for the oilfiel... Oh.

Yeah, that shits drying up quick.

Thankfully, the guy above is correct, but its far less felt here in Edmonton.

Morroque
Mar 6, 2013

de_dust posted:

At this point I don't even understand why Canada even exists, we should just fold and join the USA already.

Canada exists because not everyone was 100% on board with the American Revolution, a war which created two separate countries. It just took longer for our side to realize it, because we didn't know the foreign power we had been relying on for support had more or less written us off once it didn't go their way. While it is a historical construct, we are still of two different polities.

Besides, Canadian Manufacturing *was* indeed a thing, before globalization happened about 20-ish years ago. It just turns out that globalization is a scam. Not everyone has realized that yet.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

Moinkmaster posted:

I have to admit, the fact I can see a headline like this about Alberta and not be filled with dread over it being awful, and then find I haven't been tricked and it is indeed not terrible, is... Strange. Is this what having a decent government is like?

Alberta students to define their own gender: 5 big changes in new school guidelines (Bolding is in article)

I'm pretty sure Alberta was always surprisingly ahead of the curve on gay rights, at least back in the 70s and 80s.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Number Two Stunna posted:

I've read a couple of articles that argue that certain international treaties that Canada has signed will prevent us from legalizing marijuana, sounds retarded to me, but is there actually anything to that? It sounds like it's pretty simple to just drop out of a UN treaty and say "we're pursuing our own policy on drugs" but whatever.

There could be. You can't withdraw from a treaty unless the treaty says you can withdraw from it, as NK learned when they tried to withdraw from a nuclear weapons agreement or somesuch. I read a bit of the three that were mentioned earlier in the thread, but stopped after noticing that the Netherlands is also a party to those treaties and so far they haven't been Panamaed over it :shrug:

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


What would they do if we broke the treaty? Arrest Trudeau?

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

You got me there. Trade sanctions maybe? Or nothing. My money is on "nothing".

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
The clarion call of the weed intelligentsia:

"International treaties don't matter"

Stretch Marx
Apr 29, 2008

I'm ok with this.

Cultural Imperial posted:

The clarion call of the weed intelligentsia:

"International treaties don't matter"

Unless the US plans on invading Canada, they don't. I hope the UN doesn't write us a stern letter. :ohdear:

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

More like "international treaties based on wrongheaded thinking from the 1960s don't matter enough today for people to make a big deal about enforcing them as long as nobody breaks rule #2"

Doing this in a way that will avoid pissing off a plurality of our useful trading partners is more of a priority than sticking to the letter of a law that may very well never be enforced to any meaningful extent.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

Weather proof.
Ex-Dragon Kevin O'Leary considerers run at Tory leadership

My gut tells me that he's only doing this for attention, but that's what I said about Trump too. Of course the key difference between Trump and O'Leary is that Trump has built at least one successful business.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/british-columbia/charlie-hebdo-alan-kurdi-cartoon-1.3403085

Charlie Hebdo has done a thing again and Canadians are once again proving they've got no idea what satire is. I'm starting to think all of the support of their earlier work really was Islamophobia because it's pretty clear that satire is way over the heads of pretty much everyone in this piss-ignorant country.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?

PT6A posted:

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/british-columbia/charlie-hebdo-alan-kurdi-cartoon-1.3403085

Charlie Hebdo has done a thing again and Canadians are once again proving they've got no idea what satire is. I'm starting to think all of the support of their earlier work really was Islamophobia because it's pretty clear that satire is way over the heads of pretty much everyone in this piss-ignorant country.

Haha @ the majority of comment saying children are off limits for satire, they are probably fuming at articles claiming that Trudeau will make spanking child abuse. Children are sacred my rear end.


Whiskey Sours posted:

Ex-Dragon Kevin O'Leary considerers run at Tory leadership

My gut tells me that he's only doing this for attention, but that's what I said about Trump too. Of course the key difference between Trump and O'Leary is that Trump has built at least one successful business.

Trump inherited millions of dollars and basically grew it with the rate of inflation while selling his name to make more money. The best thing Trump does is act like a clown to make the name Trump worth more money.

O'Leary for the most part is as much of a clown, but he didn't have the millions in inhertance or the name recognition when he first started out.

DariusLikewise fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Jan 14, 2016

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

DariusLikewise posted:

Haha @ the majority of comment saying children are off limits for satire, they are probably fuming at articles claiming that Trudeau will make spanking child abuse. Children are sacred my rear end.

No, I get the feeling that it's leftists getting pissed off because they think it's anti-refugee and/or racist. Satire is very poorly understood by both sides of the political spectrum, unfortunately.

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight

DariusLikewise posted:

Haha @ the majority of comment saying children are off limits for satire, they are probably fuming at articles claiming that Trudeau will make spanking child abuse. Children are sacred my rear end.


Trump inherited millions of dollars and basically grew it with the rate of inflation while selling his name to make more money. The best thing Trump does is act like a clown to make the name Trump worth more money.

O'Leary for the most part is as much of a clown, but he didn't have the millions in inhertance or the name recognition when he first started out.

oleary was financed by his father in law at the start of his career but he didnt start nearly as big as trump

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
You guys are right. Canada has the international gravitas, influence and respect to ignore treaties. Best country on earth oh Canada!

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

PT6A posted:

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/british-columbia/charlie-hebdo-alan-kurdi-cartoon-1.3403085

Charlie Hebdo has done a thing again and Canadians are once again proving they've got no idea what satire is. I'm starting to think all of the support of their earlier work really was Islamophobia because it's pretty clear that satire is way over the heads of pretty much everyone in this piss-ignorant country.

With this and the kudatah thing, I'm so much more annoyed that I'm paying CBC to troll and repost social media. The kudatah guy is a moron but think of the guy who graduated high school, did four years of undergrad to get a journalism degree and now has to sit there refreshing reddit every 10 minutes. Crazy to see them on this international story so fast, it took them 5 days to report the actual attacks on Cologne, http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/cologne-sex-attacks-new-year-s-1.3391349

In real news for Ontarians, holy poo poo. Everyone knows that any kind of foliage or distance screws up these meters, they just send random numbers to hydro (or hydro makes up a number out of thin air). We paid $2b to have them installed, they never actually affected people's usage patterns and they're finally starting to give up on them after years of complaints and letting some people go back to two tier (manual readings and first X kw a month at discount).

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Ikantski posted:

With this and the kudatah thing, I'm so much more annoyed that I'm paying CBC to troll and repost social media. The kudatah guy is a moron but think of the guy who graduated high school, did four years of undergrad to get a journalism degree and now has to sit there refreshing reddit every 10 minutes. Crazy to see them on this international story so fast, it took them 5 days to report the actual attacks on Cologne, http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/cologne-sex-attacks-new-year-s-1.3391349

In real news for Ontarians, holy poo poo. Everyone knows that any kind of foliage or distance screws up these meters, they just send random numbers to hydro (or hydro makes up a number out of thin air). We paid $2b to have them installed, they never actually affected people's usage patterns and they're finally starting to give up on them after years of complaints and letting some people go back to two tier (manual readings and first X kw a month at discount).

They gave a poo poo about the stupid cartoon right away because Alan Kurdi's aunt made a fuss, and she's Canadian, as far as I can tell.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Whiskey Sours posted:

Ex-Dragon Kevin O'Leary considerers run at Tory leadership

My gut tells me that he's only doing this for attention, but that's what I said about Trump too. Of course the key difference between Trump and O'Leary is that Trump has built at least one successful business.

This makes his $1 million offer to Notley look even worse. Imagine the headlines if Rona Ambrose offered Trudeau $1 million to resign as Prime Minister.

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

PT6A posted:

They gave a poo poo about the stupid cartoon right away because Alan Kurdi's aunt made a fuss, and she's Canadian, as far as I can tell.

Nah, someone was talking about this here the other day during the political correctness thing. The CBC sees it as harmful to society to stoke the right wing narrative and it probably is. If all they did was report on ISIS and violent refugees, idiot canadians wouldn't be as receptive to bringing in 25,000 refugees which even I think would be a bad thing. They know they have a real power to affect perceptions so stories about muslims being persecuted like this one are great, stories like the one about Cologne are bad. I just think it'd be sweet if we had a state news corporation that focused on news and not narratives.

I actually think that cartoon was supposed to be a meta joke. The guys at Hebdo are pretty liberal and there's been a lot of anti-refugee sentiment in Europe since Cologne? They're saying "You idiots really think it's worth having children drown because you actually think they're all going to grow up into sexual predators?", it's an illustration of what the xenophobes are thinking. Maybe the real racists are the ones who take that cartoon at face value.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Ikantski posted:

I actually think that cartoon was supposed to be a meta joke. The guys at Hebdo are pretty liberal and there's been a lot of anti-refugee sentiment in Europe since Cologne? They're saying "You idiots really think it's worth having children drown because you actually think they're all going to grow up into sexual predators?", it's an illustration of what the xenophobes are thinking. Maybe the real racists are the ones who take that cartoon at face value.

That's exactly what it is. I didn't think the message was that cryptic, but evidently I was wrong.

I didn't mean "stupid cartoon" as "the cartoon is stupid" so much as "the cartoon is, at worst, insignificant, why are people whining about it?"

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

PT6A posted:

That's exactly what it is. I didn't think the message was that cryptic, but evidently I was wrong.

I didn't mean "stupid cartoon" as "the cartoon is stupid" so much as "the cartoon is, at worst, insignificant, why are people whining about it?"

I think it's a little cryptic. If you're ever looking for work, you should apply to be the CBC's bullshit filter because their article's tagline is "Cartoon suggests drowned refugee boy would have grown up to be a 'groper'"

Kafka Esq.
Jan 1, 2005

"If you ever even think about calling me anything but 'The Crab' I will go so fucking crab on your ass you won't even see what crab'd your crab" -The Crab(TM)

Cultural Imperial posted:

You guys are right. Canada has the international gravitas, influence and respect to ignore treaties. Best country on earth oh Canada!

The exact opposite, actually. In terms of international law, these treaties are effectively a set of golden rules pinned up by the vice principal in your elementary school hallway. Even if you were going to get called into the VPs office for not "working together prayerfully", he's not going to affect your permanent record.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
Word on the street Trudeau is touring Waterloo today, stopping by Googles new office and Blackberry.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/cellphone-privacy-ruling-1.3403550?cmp=rss

quote:

Judge rules cellphone 'tower dumps' violate charter right to privacy

Sweeping police search warrants forcing companies to turn over the cellphone records of thousands of innocent customers breach people's privacy and violate the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, an Ontario Superior Court judge has ruled.

The decision released Thursday says Canadians' mobile-phone records should in principle remain private. In the decision, Justice John Sproat lays out guidelines so that police may only obtain a minimal amount of information about cellphone users directly relevant to their investigation

Sproat was ruling in a case where police in Peel Region, west of Toronto, obtained a court order for the names, numbers, addresses and banking details of every mobile-phone user whose signals were bouncing off various cellphone towers during a series of jewelry-store robberies in early 2014.

Rogers and Telus challenged the court order as a breach of privacy that would have involved giving police information about more than 40,000 customers.

"I have no hesitation in finding that the Production Orders were overly broad and that they infringed section 8 (against unreasonable search and seizure) of the Charter," wrote Sproat in the decision.

ocrumsprug
Sep 23, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
I have a somewhat modest idea for how we can deal with both rising food costs and burdensome CBC commenters. (Eat them.)

* Original idea, please don't steal. *

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flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock


The JP should've known that, good grief.

On the other hand, it's Peel, so...

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