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 Oh they really do have a black guy there.
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Jan 14, 2016 21:15
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No Butt Stuff posted:I wish I could get a screen capture of this hillbilly. And much like all pure breeds he is a horrific abomination spawned by years of incestuous mating.
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Jan 14, 2016 21:16
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This guy thinks he's a samurai or something. "Do you understand the land issues here?" Jeez, way to talk down to the one black dude, Pete.
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Jan 14, 2016 21:16
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they constantly cite the constitution, but never the specific part they're talking about
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Jan 14, 2016 21:18
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STAC Goat posted:This guy thinks he's a samurai or something. to be fair, he sounds just as stupid as the rest of them. theflyingorc posted:they constantly cite the constitution, but never the specific part they're talking about
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Jan 14, 2016 21:18
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theflyingorc posted:we are now watching a man vape New thread subtitle, mods?
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Jan 14, 2016 21:20
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No Butt Stuff posted:to be fair, he sounds just as stupid as the rest of them. Yeah, but the dumb white guy he just talked to didn't get grilled about what he understood. They're positively enamored with this guy. And he seems really high.
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Jan 14, 2016 21:20
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he just told the black person "dude, I was in the streets of Baltimore, I was in the frickin' hood!"
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Jan 14, 2016 21:22
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I don't know what's up with this guy. Maybe it's the way he talks, or maybe he is high. He has a tenuous grasp on what he's talking about, I think. Oh, this guy has a secret service earpiece.
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Jan 14, 2016 21:23
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Oh good, "gently caress Islam"/dildo guy is here.
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No Butt Stuff posted:I don't know what's up with this guy. Maybe it's the way he talks, or maybe he is high. He has a tenuous grasp on what he's talking about, I think. guy was raised in a poor part of arkansas, he's just doing his impression of what he thinks a smart person talks like ugggghhhh i almost feel bad for these guys then they start talking about false flags
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Jan 14, 2016 21:25
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These guys haven't realized that anyone using the name the "Patriots" are pretty much guaranteed to be wrong and/or bad.
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Jan 14, 2016 21:25
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theflyingorc posted:they constantly cite the constitution, but never the specific part they're talking about Whichever part capitalization is key to proper patriotic understanding of it.
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Jan 14, 2016 21:25
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I'm choosing to believe the stoned black dude is an FBI plant. I don't know why. I think it was the walkie talkie in his hoodie. I just think it would be funny.
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Jan 14, 2016 21:26
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theflyingorc posted:guy was raised in a poor part of arkansas, he's just doing his impression of what he thinks a smart person talks like Thats because the core of this poo poo comes down to how these guys were raised. If they had good education, educated parents and weren't dirt loving poor then they wouldn't be SovCits. Its depressing to see what Fox News and the lovely economy is doing to the poor.
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Jan 14, 2016 21:26
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theflyingorc posted:guy was raised in a poor part of arkansas, he's just doing his impression of what he thinks a smart person talks like At least until they say "it even happens in schools" and you realize they're talking about Sandy Hook. Then you can revert back to "gently caress those assholes."
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Jan 14, 2016 21:27
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The Sovereign Citizen movement has a surprising following in some inner city black neighborhoods, particularly in Baltimore (which was one of the hardest hit cities in the housing crash). So here's some militia men from the area (Burn's they said) "joining up". Also Pete asked the guy wearing military fatigues if he was a vet: "N-No..".
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Jan 14, 2016 21:27
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STAC Goat posted:At least until they say "it even happens in schools" and you realize they're talking about Sandy Hook. Then you can revert back to "gently caress those assholes." Well yeah, gently caress these guys. But even arresting them isn't going to make the problem go away, not until our economy/education system is less completely hosed.
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Jan 14, 2016 21:28
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"We've seen some videos on info wars..." I suppose that shouldn't have surprised me.
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Crain posted:The Sovereign Citizen movement has a surprising following in some inner city black neighborhoods, particularly in Baltimore (which was one of the hardest hit cities in the housing crash). Yeah, well, that wasn't hard to tell. The flag was on the wrong side, and he's got redundant patches. He's just a moron with dreams of playing soldier and not enough stones to actually do it.
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Jan 14, 2016 21:29
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mcclay posted:Well yeah, gently caress these guys. But even arresting them isn't going to make the problem go away, not until our economy/education system is less completely hosed. No, I understand what you're saying. I know the causes need to be addressed. You don't usually chose to be an idiot. But you know, at some point you just become part of the problem instead of the symptom.
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Jan 14, 2016 21:30
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this stream is a real good look into their psychology. "you don't even wanna vote anymore, because what's the point" i truly do believe these guys aren't gonna fire the first shot (especially after seeing this snapshot of them today), but any movement to remove them is going to play into their crazy fantasies, they truly believe in a creeping, evil government full of shadowy actors i have absolutely no idea what the solution is. i think this is gonna take months
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Jan 14, 2016 21:32
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STAC Goat posted:No, I understand what you're saying. I know the causes need to be addressed. You don't usually chose to be an idiot. But you know, at some point you just become part of the problem instead of the symptom. Oh yeah. These guys are pretty loving awful. But its their kids, like the ones who they're bringing to this shitshow, that I feel bad for. They're doomed to just repeat the trend until either they get better or go off the deep end and gun down a cop with an AK.
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Jan 14, 2016 21:33
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No Butt Stuff posted:These guys haven't realized that anyone using the name the "Patriots" are pretty much guaranteed to be wrong and/or bad. This checks out. 
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Jan 14, 2016 21:33
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mcclay posted:Oh yeah. These guys are pretty loving awful. But its their kids, like the ones who they're bringing to this shitshow, that I feel bad for. They're doomed to just repeat the trend until either they get better or go off the deep end and gun down a cop with an AK. Yeah, I hear you. I don't even really hate that black dude or the guys in the truck. They all seem young and naive enough that they could grow up and realize none of this poo poo makes sense. They're probably just looking for something and this stood out to them. God willing something better will call out to them before its too late and this is just a phase. But Pete and Dildo Guy and Bundy and the old guys. They're just all too far gone and they're the ones driving problems. I'm sure Ammon Bundy owes a lot of the man he is to who his father is and that's drat sad. But he is the man he is now. But God willing his kids won't follow the same path. But the odds aren't great and that's just depressing.
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No Butt Stuff posted:Yeah, well, that wasn't hard to tell. The flag was on the wrong side, and he's got redundant patches. He's just a moron with dreams of playing soldier and not enough stones to actually do it. I would like it if the country had a harder stance on "Stolen Valor". We do go after people who try to benefit from pretending to be soldiers, but I'd like it more if we went after guys like him. I know the militia idea is ingrained in this countries psyche, but I think it'd go a long way to solving some of this poo poo if we cracked down on it. We don't need fake soldiers running around with no training and no idea what they're doing. Although I suppose the best way to deal with that is to have mandatory military service like other countries. Everyone has to put in 2 years or something in some new reserve branch and if you want to continue you can go to a specific branch.
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Jan 14, 2016 21:39
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Crain posted:The Sovereign Citizen movement has a surprising following in some inner city black neighborhoods, particularly in Baltimore (which was one of the hardest hit cities in the housing crash). I've had a friend of mine who was in contact with some of those people come to me to confirm whether or not various Magic Words used by the Moorish temple people actually worked, or that Obama exempted "The Moorish Peoples" from law. "No man, those people are crazy." "But like-" "No. Did you see Fox New suddenly lose their goddamn minds that Obama made black folks immune to the law?" "Oh...yeah, good point...the guy DID have some kinda pyramid in his front yard." "Oh yeah, they're nuts man. Stay away from that guy."
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Main Paineframe posted:Is this the rumored left-wing empathy and concern for personal freedoms at work? Because it really reads more like fascists demanding the slaughter of their political opponents based on weak pretexts. Good to know it's okay for police to kill non-violent protesters en masse over minor property crimes and "mere words" as long as they're white and own guns! https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/687732485850021889
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Jan 14, 2016 21:47
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Crain posted:I would like it if the country had a harder stance on "Stolen Valor". There were laws passed so people posing as vets to make political statements could be punished, but the Supreme Court knocked them out as 1st amendment violations.
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Jan 14, 2016 21:48
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yes, because they always see themselves as the put-upon victims. in their mind, if the government comes, they're doomed, so they'll put the women in front so that everyone learns the government is evil, rather than let the government raid the compound, kill everyone off camera, and then do a false flag at them
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Talmonis posted:I've had a friend of mine who was in contact with some of those people come to me to confirm whether or not various Magic Words used by the Moorish temple people actually worked, or that Obama exempted "The Moorish Peoples" from law. It's really sad, because of any group in this country, African-Americans have the most legitimacy when it comes to mistrusting the government. They have been hosed over for hundreds of years and still get targeted over and over again. Pete Santilli and Ammon Bundy may say "The government has made us slaves" or some poo poo, but their idea of what that means is light years away from the realities of slavery and oppression that African-American's have faced. Take the couple that Pete was talking to earlier, from Nevada. They were saying that some Sheriff's office guys pulled them over, or otherwise approached them while they were going around town looking at things. They were laughing about it but you could tell there was at least some legitimate offense taken to being treated like an outsider who doesn't have the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their intentions (and really you can't blame sheriff's officers for questioning them, assuming that's honestly what happened, because they are outsiders and pretty clearly being a part of this armed insurrection). But you could also see they've never had that be a part of their lives before either. I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of them said something to the effect of "If you don't act like a THUG then you have no problem with the police" with respect to the Mike Brown/Black Lives Matter movement protests. Well they just finally got the tiniest taste of what that's actually like. Black people have to live with that every day, and in places they actually live and belong to.
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theflyingorc posted:yes, because they always see themselves as the put-upon victims. in their mind, if the government comes, they're doomed, so they'll put the women in front so that everyone learns the government is evil, rather than let the government raid the compound, kill everyone off camera, and then do a false flag at them Oh yes, I know. This was said, mind you, while they were threatening federal agents with guns, as the prior picture posted by someone else shows. They had their wives and kids there to be bullet shields, and now they have their wives and kids with them in Oregon to be bullet shields. I get that it's a propaganda thing, but it's also essentially having willing (or well, in the case of kids, I'm pretty sure their willingness or unwillingness doesn't matter, since they're minors) hostages. At this point I'm not sure what makes me angrier about the apparent lack of containment, that they are terrorizing Burns or that they were able and allowed to bring their families in after some of them were at Bundy Ranch and specifically stated that's what they were going to do in any confrontation. Basically to set up, on purpose, a Waco scenario. Because these are super brave patriot heroes.
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Jan 14, 2016 22:04
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Move over, Christianity and Islam. Constitutianity is here to lead us to the promised land.
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Jan 14, 2016 22:18
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No Butt Stuff posted:These guys haven't realized that anyone using the name the "Patriots" are pretty much guaranteed to be wrong and/or bad. As a New Yorker, I agree. Tom Brady especially.
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Jan 14, 2016 22:19
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The Pete Santilli chat has caught on to the goatseing. I need new tactics or a new target.
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Jan 14, 2016 22:20
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That's what I've been saying. What's the point in going overboard to avoid a new Waco incident when the result is the new Branch Davidians saying "well goddammit, maybe if I do THIS it'll force you to shoot me" until they manage to cross the line? That's not Waco but I sure as gently caress don't want it either Maybe if we took minimal steps towards making this difficult for the armed militants or made their media experience not so perfectly tailored to what they want, they'd decide these things aren't worth the trouble rather than terrorizing town after town until they get their shootout.
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Jan 14, 2016 22:22
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As a Millennial I posted:The Pete Santilli chat has caught on to the goatseing. I need new tactics or a new target. Who is John Galt?
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As a Millennial I posted:The Pete Santilli chat has caught on to the goatseing. I need new tactics or a new target.
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