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Kikkoman posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y8AuTLKXcI He showed some real BJJ skills there, it's clear he's training seriously. If he gets a boxing coach and can somehow cut to 265, he might actually become a legit pro.
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Didn't actually realize that it's already Hatsu Basho this weekend. Here's the banzuke: http://www.sumo.or.jp/en/honbasho/banzuke/ Yoshikaze first time at sekiwake, two wrestlers make their makuuchi debut (juryo champion last basho and in general comet newcomer Shodai at 12W, Kagayaki at the bottom 16E).
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I feel bad for Akebono. No one should make Bob Sapp look relatively skilled twice. Did he really go into K-1/MMA because his failed restaurant venture ate all his money?
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And the Hatsu Basho is off! Day 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAa37kiieDo E: Ooh, royalty in attendance. They picked a helluva day to attend, too. Shohozan - Terunofuji is my pick for MOTN, but it's a tough pick. Lots of good stuff today. Hope Tokitenku can recover.   Henka in the rematch was loving brilliant.Hoooly poo poo that was a close one for Hakuho. anakha fucked around with this message at 13:10 on Jan 10, 2016 |
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Some pretty good matches today. That new guy Shodai looks pretty strong.
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So on Japanese TV there is a button on your controller marked "data". When you press this, a display on the TV will pop up with more information about the program or sometimes with interactive things. The NHK sumo broadcast just introduced an interactive section. The announcers will give quizes where you can answer from multiple choice and also polls. It's pretty cool! Anyway, one of the polls today was "What do you think needs to be done to make sumo more popular?" The choices were something like "Fan service" (I don't know what that would entail exactly) "More internationalization of the sport" (what I chose), and "A Japanese rikishi winning a yusho." 75% of people who responded said "A Japanese rikishi winning a yusho." LOL GOOD LUCK WITH THAT! The 10 plus years of no Japanese people winning a yusho kind of says to me that the match fixing poo poo was really not THAT big of a thing in terms of deciding ranks. If they actually did use match fixing in that way, there would be Japanese yokozunas because I think a lot of people desperately want that. That American book that helped to expose match fixing makes discussing sumo with people I know pretty much impossible. Oh well.
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Here's Brodi's first match of 2016, while we're waiting for day 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w59DpdTtIbY Hope he makes it to the top division one day. Seems promising!
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MrSmokes posted:Here's Brodi's first match of 2016, while we're waiting for day 2. doesn't look like he has a ton of lower body strength yet but it took a while for oosunaarashi to develop that as well he sure did get a favorable placement in sandanme this basho, wow
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Dr.Radical posted:"A Japanese rikishi winning a yusho." 75% of people who responded said "A Japanese rikishi winning a yusho." LOL GOOD LUCK WITH THAT! Kisenosato is going to have one really good basho this year and win.
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Day 2 is up! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axf7WiFbiU8 Might be the best first two days I've seen since I started following sumo. Usually the first 5+ are real snoozers. I'm starting to think Aminishiki is an epic troll. Dashes the best Japanese chance for a yusho on day 15 in Kyushu with an evasive move, henkas the guy who is always the best Japanese shot at a yusho on day 1 of this basho, and yet doesn't try any funny business against the yokozunae or mid/lower maegashira. Has anyone located Shohozan? Clearly this is an alien wearing a Shohozan skin.
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I just watched Day 1 at the gym yesterday and noticed a lot of guys winding up with their back turned to their opponent or their foot raised high up off the ground. Their opponents, in turn, rarely took advantage of it like they should have. I don't know if the dohyo is slippery or if it's just first-day jitters. Actually, I've been going back and watching the basho from the first few pages of this thread, and I saw a lot of dramatic throws in the early days of that basho, too. Edit: Nice to see Mitakeumi has his chonmage now. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Jan 11, 2016 |
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I tend to root for the guys whose names I feel I can kind of pronounce. The hardest thing to keep track of, I find, is actually all the kimarite, especially when they differentiate between, for example, "slap down" and "more-of-a-pull-than-a-slap down."
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Halloween Jack posted:I tend to root for the guys whose names I feel I can kind of pronounce. The hardest thing to keep track of, I find, is actually all the kimarite, especially when they differentiate between, for example, "slap down" and "more-of-a-pull-than-a-slap down." So basically you want Myogiryu to makekoshi into retirement. I still have trouble with a lot of the kimarite. I get a brief moment of "gently caress yeah!" when the correct kimarite for an uncommon finish pops in my head a second before it shows up on the screen. I think yori vs oshi comes quickly for most, followed by dashi vs taoshi, but the throws have a huge learning curve. a false posted:ryu is a tough sound for american palates but other than that most of the names are more or less phonetic when romanized. at least enough to get you close Like many American kids, I grew up choosing RAI-yu over Ken.
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Fryhtaning posted:I still have trouble with a lot of the kimarite. I get a brief moment of "gently caress yeah!" when the correct kimarite for an uncommon finish pops in my head a second before it shows up on the screen. I think yori vs oshi comes quickly for most, followed by dashi vs taoshi, but the throws have a huge learning curve. Also, I've never seen the ref call a hiwaza. Even in a few cases where I've seen that the wrestlers weren't touching and one of them slipped, they call it hatakikomi or oshidashi.
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Fryhtaning posted:I'm starting to think Aminishiki is an epic troll. Dashes the best Japanese chance for a yusho on day 15 in Kyushu with an evasive move, henkas the guy who is always the best Japanese shot at a yusho on day 1 of this basho, and yet doesn't try any funny business against the yokozunae or mid/lower maegashira. Maybe, but I reckon he knows exactly who he can henka and who he can't. Hakuho keeps his eyes open and is much too fast. I can't recall Kakuryu being henka'd recently. The Japanese ozekis tend to have their heads down at tachi-ai so are more prone. Always surprised Kotoshogiku isn't henka'd more. Anyway, Shodai is looking to be off to a good start. Seems comfortable pulling moves right on the tawara.
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Elissimpark posted:Maybe, but I reckon he knows exactly who he can henka and who he can't. Hakuho keeps his eyes open and is much too fast. I can't recall Kakuryu being henka'd recently. The Japanese ozekis tend to have their heads down at tachi-ai so are more prone. Always surprised Kotoshogiku isn't henka'd more. Yeah, I was just being snarky anyway. I'm always surprised how easily Kisenosato gets henka'd when he does, since he is probably the most balanced and fundamentally sound rikishi otherwise. Giku has had his share of being henka'd, and usually ends up in the parking lot before he realizes what happened. Gibbo posted:What happens if someone slips on their frills before a ref has a chance to pick it up? The gyoji points towards the opponent's side of the ring and they record it as a win by hikiotoshi. 
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Ha, no sooner do I raise the question of hiwaza than the gyoji calls a tsukihiza. I don't know what kimarite he could possibly have called since he slipped while pushing on his opponent's chest and his opponent didn't have a hand on him.
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Day 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szjn7hlwzjU Okinoumi was ROBBED Too bad about Terunofuji. Hope he drops out and heals up properly so he can do way better in the next basho.
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anakha posted:Takarafuji-Sokokurai easily wins MOTN. Match of the basho f'sho. Still a lot of sumo left to be played, though. So happy for Ikioi to finally bust that first nut, although it wasn't technically a kinboshi
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I wish Takarafuji would be more aggressive. He's got power, he just rarely uses it. He should watch Harumafuji more closely. And silly Tochinoshin - he looked like he had the Giku out for a Terunofuji-styles kimidashi, but decided to change grips and lost his momentum.
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Kintamayama posted:No less than three sekitori are out today due to injuries. Terunofuji (right collarbone fracture suffered during the day 4 bout against Aoiyama, his first kyujo ever) and Joukouryuu (right foot) - pretty obvious from watching yesterday's bouts, and Aminishiki (the flu, 3 days out, will probably return after two days max..). Well poo poo. Two of my favorites out. Terunofuji is the biggest bummer though.
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Day 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF70hGmJSMM Ikioi-Yoshikaze for MOTN! Watching Endo's gradual flameout over the past couple of bashos has been kinda sad. He really needs to take time off for surgery/rehab, IMO. I'm baffled by Ichinojo's lack of progression since that first makuuchi basho where he nearly won the whole thing. He looks to me to be exactly the same guy skill-wise since then. Is it a failure by his stable to train him up?
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When Ichinojo entered makuuchi he was like ~195kg. If I remember the latest weigh in, he's nearing 220kg. Thats a 50 lb gain, which is ridiculous. I've heard stories of some high rankers starting to skip practice a lot because they could, and if he's gaining weight at this rate he might be skipping a lot. Of course the extra weight can always be bad as well. The heya thing shouldn't matter, cross heya training is really popular. There are streets you can stand on and see like 4 heyas at the same time. Hakuho also had a similar situation in his heya. It is some discipline/weight combo thing going on. It seems that Endo might be gone tomorrow or soon. Uncle Jam fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Jan 16, 2016 |
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