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Fish Fry Andy posted:With all the people who've downloaded the leak you're probably right. I know I'm already ready. How much damage do you have to do to get credit for the kill? I can't remember. Also my Warrior is gonna have some problems trying to hit the wing tips.
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Thumbtacks posted:I know I'm already ready. Once the online Ur-Dragon gets low enough on health, there's a grace period. During that period, anyone who starts a fight with him will find the dragon to be nearly dead already, and finishing him off gives you the rewards. You can get some separate rewards by doing a certain amount of damage at any time, including before the grace period, but it's all worthless garbage that isn't worth concerning yourself with. Don't bother trying to fight the Ur-Dragon as a warrior.
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Yeah, I figured. I just haven't fought him since like Generation 9 on my xbox so I don't remember the mechanics very well. Does he have to DIE to get full rewards? It might be worth bringing a Maker's Finger with me since that clears a full weak point but I don't know how much relative damage that would do. Do you know if Offline has the same defenses as the online version? Might check how much damage my MK can do to it.
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Yeah, you need to actually, fully kill him yourself to get the real rewards. Maker's Finger isn't necessary. If you can fire that thing, it means you're a bow-wielding class and shouldn't have any problems doing it normally. The easiest way to fight Ur-Dragon though imo is to play mage or sorc, slap on a holy enchantment, and spam homing charged attacks. Vargs fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Jan 15, 2016 |
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ZZZorcerer posted:So, people that already played, any important stuff you can easily miss? I know that advancing the main quest will lock you out of some sidequests, any quests I should look out for ? In response to your first question about quests you'll be locked out of - pretty much any quest given by an NPC, not a board, will end (just a rule of thumb). There are main quests, NPC given quests, and then board quests. Advancing from one phase of main quests to the next will lock you out of that phase's NPC quests, but not the board quests (which are mostly 'kill X of Y monster'). The game warns you when you're moving to the next thing. Here are a few things that I realized a little later than I perhaps should have (probably my own fault): - I headed straight from the first town to the second, then third, only doing one or two things that people spoke to me about. There are actually a fair few quests in the first town that I'd totally skipped because the game doesn't really force them on you. For example there is an early quest in the first town's church - a building I didn't know existed. - Among the types of skills you can buy there are 'core skills', some of these are passive, but a lot are attack combos with unique inputs. To find out their button inputs, press the details button in the menu - they're generally stuff like hold Y, or press X then X again after a pause. - There is an infinite warp item in your storage, in combination with rift crystals you can set up your own fast travel system. - You can use materials that are in storage for weapon/armor enhancements without taking them out. But I'm pretty sure you can't combine items in your inventory with items in storage. - When it comes to selling items, the menu categorizes out special items, so you generally know whats quest sensitive. Materials are used for weapon/armor enhancements and combining to make tools/healing items. I keep anything I can use to make the items I use, otherwise I keep 5 of everything just in case a piece of armor or a weapon down the road needs it for enhancements. I've made a lot more money through selling rare weapons and from completing quests, though. - Some healing items are kept under materials instead of curative, keep that in mind when combining to make curatives, or if you need some extra healing in a tight spot. - Don't let griffins carry you away, fam
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Vargs posted:Yeah, you need to actually, fully kill him yourself to get the real rewards. honestly my biggest problem is that all my really good gear is on my warrior, so if I end up using a ranger instead (which I probably will, and just buy about 800 blast arrows) I'll need to go buy something off Caxton or one of the Everfall merchants unless I can scrounge up something in BBI.
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Jan 15, 2016 06:58
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My tip to people who have never played the game before is this: don't give a gently caress about guides and poo poo for maxing your character. Don't read every FAQ on every little side-quest. Go out there and have an adventure. Try every class and find one that's fun. Sure, you'll miss some stuff on the way but leave that for NG+. Just go out there and explore the insane world that is Dragon's Dildo.
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Jan 15, 2016 07:23
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It has been brought to my attention that the game unequips items invalid for your vocation after loading your save. This new version should fix that, as well as let you equip anything on the oddly special screen you get after a vocation change.code:
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Jan 15, 2016 07:30
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Yeah a friend of mine decided to get this to play for the first time and I was seriously considering what to tell him and what not to tell him, and in the end decided to only give him three pieces of information that I dearly wish I knew about the first time I played: -How to do Quina's first quest in the Witchwood, mostly because it locks out SO much poo poo later on, including a vitally important quest for LORE -The existence of the Black Cat and its forging services (vaguely defined intentionally) -The fact that pawns actually really learn from your actions
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Lodin posted:My tip to people who have never played the game before is this: don't give a gently caress about guides and poo poo for maxing your character. Don't read every FAQ on every little side-quest. Go out there and have an adventure. Try every class and find one that's fun. Sure, you'll miss some stuff on the way but leave that for NG+. This is the best advice. As people have said over and over in this thread - you don't need to min max to enjoy this game. The most fun I have had with this game is exploring Gransys with my crew and getting in over our heads.
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lets hang out posted:this page is really bad Vargs posted:A whole lot of stuff on here is bullshit or subjective to the point of worthlessness. I tried to post a lot of Dogma stuff in the actual thread, but most of it never made it to the wiki as it's closed reg. Centipeed tries his best though.  ZZZorcerer posted:So, people that already played, any important stuff you can easily miss? I know that advancing the main quest will lock you out of some sidequests, any quests I should look out for ? A couple of those aforementioned collectathons can be tricky or exhausting if you focus on them too much. Keep at least 10-12 of everything you find, since just about every useless item is either bound to be used as an upgrading material, or is involved in one of those quests. Most of the Notice Board quest rewards are meh though the greased/golden weapons can come in handy. Be on the look out for late and post-game ones that pop up since they may be rewarded with actual useful items like that armor that lets you double your DCP gains. There is a quest line that has its own Notice Board downstairs in the Pawn Guild; it offers the 100 Badge of Vows quests. Badges of Vows don't actually do anything, but they can be hard to get to which I guess is the point, and they won't actually show up in the world until you have the associated quest in your log. If you run across any, hold on to them. They are carried over between playthroughs, and they can be picked up (again, straight from the storage box this time) every NG for free XP and riftbux. And like everyone else said, look out for the quest Lost and Found. Another one that's easy to mess up or skip is Chasing Shadows, which will also cause a bunch of LORE stuff to never happen and some quest lines to be abandoned so do it before you meet the Duke. There are some other missable quest here and there, but they don't have nearly as profound an effect on the game as those two. If you're intent on getting them all the first time through: make sure you visit Cassardis and The Abbey in the forest in the middle of Gransys after every major story beat. You'll be done once Quina and Valmiro have left the game. Also, visit with both of the passive bandit leaders (you'll have to be or dress up as a woman to speak with Ophis) as they have easily missed quests, too. You'll be done with them once you get their respective Badge of Amity. Notice board quest do NOT count towards full quest completion.
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Can anyone give me a vague idea of what the average height of people is in Gransys? I don't want to get a character just right in the editor who I think is simply "tall" who ends up a whole two heads taller than everyone else.
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Trapezium Dave posted:Can anyone give me a vague idea of what the average height of people is in Gransys? I don't want to get a character just right in the editor who I think is simply "tall" who ends up a whole two heads taller than everyone else. Well, 5'10" is 177.8cm, so that's a start. Game is weirdly fixated on short and fats (like, there are a LOT of fat soldiers for a country that apparently just went through a protracted war), so really any height+weight combo will be suitably heroic.
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The only escort quest I remember being worth doing is Ser Berne's because a) he will actually fight with you using his big-rear end sword and b) when you're done he will give you his sword which is a very good Warrior weapon, especially if you do the quest early. Most other escort quests give you a ton of healing items or talismans which nobody ever really needs. There is even a trick do finish escort quests easily but you should find that out on your own.
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Tallgeese posted:It has been brought to my attention that the game unequips items invalid for your vocation after loading your save. This new version should fix that, as well as let you equip anything on the oddly special screen you get after a vocation change. so when you say ANYTHING, what happens if you try to equip like a greatsword on a sorc? Also this is great, I can wear my usual getup as any class. Awesome.
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Trapezium Dave posted:With the bulletin board quests, note that the ones that are fine to pick up ASAP are the "Kill Umpteen Critters" type ones. Those are the ones that will naturally complete as you play the game. However those boards also offer a bunch of escort quests that are not of this type and are most often a pain in the arse to complete successfully, so skip those unless/until you really want to do them - or at least until you've explored the map a fair bit. IIRC, you can only have a certain number of quests from each board active at a time, so you might want to avoid taking board quests to deliver items or kill enemies that you've never heard of. There are a bunch more of these busywork board quests in DD:DA than there were in the base game; all of them, outside of the BBI quests, were originally DLC for the base game.
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paco650 posted:Well, 5'10" is 177.8cm, so that's a start. Game is weirdly fixated on short and fats (like, there are a LOT of fat soldiers for a country that apparently just went through a protracted war), so really any height+weight combo will be suitably heroic. gtrmp posted:IIRC, you can only have a certain number of quests from each board active at a time, so you might want to avoid taking board quests to deliver items or kill enemies that you've never heard of.
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Infinity Gaia posted:Yeah a friend of mine decided to get this to play for the first time and I was seriously considering what to tell him and what not to tell him, and in the end decided to only give him three pieces of information that I dearly wish I knew about the first time I played: So how DO you do Quina's first quest in the Witchwood? I vaguely remember something like this when I rented this on console, but mostly I remember getting my poo poo pushed in by a bunch of bandits near a rolling boulder.
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Jan 15, 2016 08:33
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Tallgeese posted:It has been brought to my attention that the game unequips items invalid for your vocation after loading your save. This new version should fix that, as well as let you equip anything on the oddly special screen you get after a vocation change. I love this is already a thing taken care of.
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bewilderment posted:So how DO you do Quina's first quest in the Witchwood? Level more. When I did it, I was level 15-20 or so.
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bewilderment posted:So how DO you do Quina's first quest in the Witchwood? Just run past the bandits. They're way tougher than anything you find in the Witchwood itself.
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Trapezium Dave posted:Can anyone give me a vague idea of what the average height of people is in Gransys? I don't want to get a character just right in the editor who I think is simply "tall" who ends up a whole two heads taller than everyone else. lol just make a person
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verbal enema posted:lol just make a person 
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bewilderment posted:So how DO you do Quina's first quest in the Witchwood? run like a baby into the woods. then run like a baby until you find her.
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Trapezium Dave posted:I'm the kind of player who spends over a hour in the character creator tweaking every single slider to make it look just right. And then starts all over again because the actual game uses a completely different lighting model and the hair is now the wrong tint of brown. well then i'd say yeah wat other guy said 5'10ish and a lil portish tho first village is p "normal" sized. I made a 5'7 girl and i never felt oddly placed unless i had some amazon/ barb with me as a pawn but thats that
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If you aren't playing as a max size character or a minimum size character then I don't understand what you're doing with your life I might play as Feste this time around. I used him as a pawn once; maybe now it's his chance for the spotlight.
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bewilderment posted:So how DO you do Quina's first quest in the Witchwood? Go there at night when the higher-level bandits with archer support are replaced by much more manageable wolves.
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Trapezium Dave posted:I'm the kind of player who spends over a hour in the character creator tweaking every single slider to make it look just right. And then starts all over again because the actual game uses a completely different lighting model and the hair is now the wrong tint of brown. Stick with the default height and you should be fine.
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Could I get an invite into the steam group? My profile page is here. Thanks in advance. I played this game for a while on the 360, but didn't get very far, so I'm looking forward to playing it in higher resolution. Hopefully SSAO can be forced through drivers, because I don't remember seeing an option for it in TotalBiscuit's port report.
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I'm wishing I had a blu-ray drive so I could try to rip the button icons and use them to overwrite the PC version ones.
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Jan 15, 2016 09:21
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Once I hit 10, I'm assuming I can just go to BBI instead of running to the main city to change vocations, right? Planning on hitting every side quest, so I may hit 10 before then.
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DontMindMe posted:Once I hit 10, I'm assuming I can just go to BBI instead of running to the main city right? Planning on hitting every side quest, so I may hit 10 before then. Correct. BBI should open up as soon as you get your main pawn, I think.
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Magus42 posted:So, I made a thing real quick for calculating pawn characteristics based on the starting questions. Also you can buy items from the dude in the camp tent that changes your pawn's inclination if you gently caress up. Also also giving commands changes inclination over time, unless they got rid of that.
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Tallgeese posted:Is it possible to make a good Warrior pawn, or does the three skill slots really neuter them? Warrior sadly has one reason to exist, HP growth. As cool as being a 2h badass is, there's nothing they do better then other vocations. Well, besides HP growth.
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DontMindMe posted:Once I hit 10, I'm assuming I can just go to BBI instead of running to the main city to change vocations, right? Planning on hitting every side quest, so I may hit 10 before then. Yepp, and honestly the only way to switch vocation at exactly 10 IMO, I know people pulled it off before DA and all but unless you want to miss parts of the story or even running from some enemies I don't see anyone hitting Gran Soren at 10. Yet another feather in DA's cap for fixing my few annoyances with Dragon's Dogma.
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Robo Reagan posted:Also you can buy items from the dude in the camp tent that changes your pawn's inclination if you gently caress up. Also also giving commands changes inclination over time, unless they got rid of that. Yah, but it's a lot cheaper/easier if you can nail them down from the start 
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Magus42 posted:Yah, but it's a lot cheaper/easier if you can nail them down from the start No matter how great I set my pawn up eventually it will mimic my lootwhorery and Acquisitor joins the fray.
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Invite me to Steam group please http://steamcommunity.com/id/koalacola/
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I'd like an invite too please! http://steamcommunity.com/id/gumball_dad
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I played a good chunk of this on the PS3 a while back, before I had to give it up, so I'll be glad to finally see where this game goes. If someone wouldn't mind adding me to the Steam group, my profile is http://steamcommunity.com/id/alotofmomos/
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