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Grand Theft Autobot posted:We're talking about him like he's dead now.
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Jan 14, 2016 14:48
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It is said His return was prophesied by the Mad Austrian himself, in his Humanactionomicon. Those who read it are struck by a peculiar madness, often claiming the flow of time to be a mere preference and chanting invocations to an ancient god they call Frem Ar'khet.
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Jan 14, 2016 16:08
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Ravenfood posted:That is not dead which can eternal lie / and with strange aeons, even death may die. Ia! Ia! Jrodefeld ftaghn! It's terrible that I read this and the first thing I thought was the GW Death Thread was leaking. Though I'm sure there's parallels to be made between Libertarianism and Age of Sigmar.
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Jan 14, 2016 16:24
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I noticed yesterday that jrod posted a bunch in the Gay Mariage thread. Can anyone summarize his views on the topic?
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Jan 14, 2016 17:40
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:I noticed yesterday that jrod posted a bunch in the Gay Mariage thread. Can anyone summarize his views on the topic? I don't really remember but I'd bet hard money it boiled down to "this is a states' rights issue and should be left up to the voters (but of course I think gays should be allowed to be married, I just don't agree they should be allowed to do it right now) and anyway the government needs to get out of marriage altogether".
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Jan 14, 2016 17:48
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Who What Now posted:I don't really remember but I'd bet hard money it boiled down to "this is a states' rights issue and should be left up to the voters (but of course I think gays should be allowed to be married, I just don't agree they should be allowed to do it right now) and anyway the government needs to get out of marriage altogether". iirc it was also where he first said "lincoln was a tyrant! he eradicated all this wealth in the south!"
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Jan 14, 2016 17:50
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:The free market has spoken, minorities, and it said "gently caress you!" That's all it ever seems to say. How odd. Who What Now posted:I don't really remember but I'd bet hard money it boiled down to "this is a states' rights issue and should be left up to the voters (but of course I think gays should be allowed to be married, I just don't agree they should be allowed to do it right now) and anyway the government needs to get out of marriage altogether". "Here's an interesting article I think will show the thread an innovative, market-driven solution!" *Inadvertently posts something advocating throwing all gays into concentration camps*
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Jan 14, 2016 18:22
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:I noticed yesterday that jrod posted a bunch in the Gay Mariage thread. Can anyone summarize his views on the topic? As I recall, he thought gays marrying was okay and all, but you know what's even better? Getting the government out of marriage! Statanism is the real enemy of the gays, once the oppressive State of Oklahoma dissolves and Yokel Haram becomes the de facto governing authority, THEN the gays will finally have it good.
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Jan 14, 2016 18:34
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Anyone have a link to his posts in that thread? I'd like to see how right I was in my guess for myself.
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Jan 14, 2016 18:53
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Here, go nuts.jrodefeld posted:Now, I support if a state wants to legalize gay marriage. However, I more consistent libertarian position that would solve the problem you describe is to get government out of marriage entirely, both heterosexual and homosexual marriage. And the big swerve: jrodefeld posted:I don't even ultimately support the idea of legalizing gay marriage on a state by state basis. I am only pointing out that local activism at the state level is moving beyond the ineffectual federal government on a number of these issues. quote:I don't think that even Alabama and Mississippi would bring back segregation even if the federal government didn't stop them. The rest of it his him simultaneously getting bogged down defending the Confederacy (that he would obviously never defend, why would you say that) and fighting over the exact meaning of Rothbard's "free market in children" quote. Goon Danton fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Jan 14, 2016 |
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Jan 14, 2016 18:58
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I'm mainlining those sweet jrod posts now. I just got to the part where he posts a Lew Rockwell article from noted Southern Revanchist and poo poo historian, Thomas DiLorenzan. Did I mention a few posts up that white supremacy, segregationism, and libertarianism are hopelessly entangled in modern politics? Because it seems our old pal jrodefeld gets all his history from white supremacists. The book jrod uses to source his anti-Lincoln arguments is universally regarded by actual historians as one of the shittiest books of history ever written.
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Jan 14, 2016 21:09
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:I'm mainlining those sweet jrod posts now. I just got to the part where he posts a Lew Rockwell article from noted Southern Revanchist and poo poo historian, Thomas DiLorenzan. Did I mention a few posts up that white supremacy, segregationism, and libertarianism are hopelessly entangled in modern politics? Because it seems our old pal jrodefeld gets all his history from white supremacists. To be entirely honest, I've been sorta hoping he'll cluelessly cite Alexander Stephens' A Constitutional View of the Late War Between the States. It'd be only somewhat more ridiculous and dishonest than what he usually does, after all.
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Jan 14, 2016 21:25
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Captain_Maclaine posted:To be entirely honest, I've been sorta hoping he'll cluelessly cite Alexander Stephens' A Constitutional View of the Late War Between the States. It'd be only somewhat more ridiculous and dishonest than what he usually does, after all. I figure he'll probably have graduated to Mein Kampf by the time he's worked up the courage to show his face on SA again.
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Jan 14, 2016 22:35
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I'm sure he's very busy selling bootleg Blu-Ray movies or whatever his job was.
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Jan 14, 2016 22:50
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Who What Now posted:I'm sure he's very busy selling bootleg Blu-Ray movies or whatever his job was. I thought he said his job was being Professionally Handsome and Cool?
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Jan 14, 2016 22:50
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No that's just his hobby. He pays the bills by torrenting Hong Kong action films and burning them onto discs.
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Jan 14, 2016 22:57
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Who What Now posted:No that's just his hobby. He pays the bills by torrenting Hong Kong action films and burning them onto discs. You have to be making GBS threads me. That makes this way more hilarious than it should be. Was just randomly googling his username to see if he was active on other forums while he was laying low and that was the first result.
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Jan 14, 2016 23:06
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Who What Now posted:No that's just his hobby. He pays the bills by torrenting Hong Kong action films and burning them onto discs. you gotta be kidding
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Jan 14, 2016 23:07
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First result when I googled his name was his Reddit profile, which was only used to spam links to his Facebook group where he sells Blu-Rays. I'm surmising the particulars of how his "business" works, but going by his views of how intellectual property works I have no doubt he doesn't pay for distribution rights for the movies he sells. But this is probably getting a little Helldump-y some I'm not going to dig any deeper.
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Jan 14, 2016 23:11
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Captain_Maclaine posted:To be entirely honest, I've been sorta hoping he'll cluelessly cite Alexander Stephens' A Constitutional View of the Late War Between the States. It'd be only somewhat more ridiculous and dishonest than what he usually does, after all. Googling that title just gave me page after page of glowing reviews talking about how Vital and Important it is to understanding the real purpose of the Constitution. Googling the author's name paints a slightly different picture. 
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Jan 14, 2016 23:12
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Nolanar posted:Googling that title just gave me page after page of glowing reviews talking about how Vital and Important it is to understanding the real purpose of the Constitution. Googling the author's name paints a slightly different picture. Yeah, it's kinda my go-to example of Confederate hypocrisy about the cause of the war where you've got their loving VP giving a huge-rear end speech about how slavery was the reason they seceded (and is totally awesome you guys), then after the war he writes this big-rear end tome about how wouldn't you just know it the whole thing was an abstract constitutional dispute (which the South was totally right about) and nothing else.
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Jan 14, 2016 23:16
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Who What Now posted:First result when I googled his name was his Reddit profile, which was only used to spam links to his Facebook group where he sells Blu-Rays. I'm surmising the particulars of how his "business" works, but going by his views of how intellectual property works I have no doubt he doesn't pay for distribution rights for the movies he sells. hk films are a weird thing already im entirely unsurprised that's what he decided to pirate for money
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Jan 14, 2016 23:17
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Who What Now posted:But this is probably getting a little Helldump-y some I'm not going to dig any deeper. Yeah, wasn't ever planning on linking that but if true it was too good to pass up how he will completely abandon any pretense of principle when it does not operate in his favor. It is an attempt to legitimize personal greed and nothing more.
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Jan 14, 2016 23:20
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Caros posted:Well you see only individuals can own property because.... If only individuals can own property, we must ban corporations and destroy capitalism in the name of property rights.  Also the fact that jrodefeld sells stolen poo poo for a living is absolutely perfect. Woolie Wool fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Jan 14, 2016 |
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Jan 14, 2016 23:39
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Is man not entitled to the sweat of his torrents?
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Jan 15, 2016 00:17
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:I figure he'll probably have graduated to Mein Kampf by the time he's worked up the courage to show his face on SA again. You mean when he finds time to set aside from being super handsome and successful and so like awesome guys, you have no idea. He can't post pictures of himself or talk about his life because if he did none of us would ever talk to a woman ever again because they'd all be his.
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Jan 15, 2016 02:22
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"You have an inalienable right to choose your associates!" "The government telling you who you have to serve at your business is Communism!" "The only rights are Property Rights!" "There should be a thriving free market for children!" "Lincoln was a tyrant and an aggressor who sought to destroy the legitimate Constitution of the United States!" "Hey, when did all these White Supremacists get here?"
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Jan 15, 2016 02:59
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Woolie Wool posted:If only individuals can own property, we must ban corporations and destroy capitalism in the name of property rights. I think he's said he doesn't believe in intellectual property rights.
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Jan 15, 2016 03:33
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Doctor Spaceman posted:I think he's said he doesn't believe in intellectual property rights. The thought there is that if you invent something but somebody else can make it more cheaply they deserve to be the one making it. Which completely ignores the fact that inventing something in the first place takes time and money.
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Jan 15, 2016 03:42
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You can't, like, own ideas, maaaaaaaaaaaaaan. *takes hit of what jrod thinks is a joint but is actually just oregano*
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Jan 15, 2016 04:07
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Surprisingly enough, the one area in which property isn't sacrosanct is the one where the rich aren't able to monopolize the means of production.
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Jan 15, 2016 07:11
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Mornacale posted:Surprisingly enough, the one area in which property isn't sacrosanct is the one where the rich aren't able to monopolize the means of production. Show me how to
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Jan 15, 2016 08:32
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Sure there's been a lot of great jrodefeld moments in recent times, but none of them will ever beat how Jrodefeld Classic (tm) would reply to every post in a thread one by one but skip over the ones that had solid arguments, removing all pretense that he was remotelt arguing in good faith. Also generally complaining about the one liners during this "just pretending attempts at legitimate debate don't exist."
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Jan 15, 2016 13:24
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I liked his all time speed record for opinion reversal (and possible first ever brush with empathy?) when he went: Jrod: All government employees are bad and shouldn't have their jobs. Someone: But what if you were offered a high paying government job? Jrod: Oh. Well, hm, maybe they're not ALL bad...
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That is to be contrasted with the actual government worker who posted here about doing [unambiguously good and helpful thing], and JRod brushed them off as "yeah, you're a parasite on society. Should have joined a non-government group instead!"
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Jan 15, 2016 15:14
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ToxicSlurpee posted:The thought there is that if you invent something but somebody else can make it more cheaply they deserve to be the one making it. archangelwar posted:Yeah, wasn't ever planning on linking that but if true it was too good to pass up how he will completely abandon any pretense of principle when it does not operate in his favor. It is an attempt to legitimize personal greed and nothing more.
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Jan 15, 2016 15:17
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Halloween Jack posted:Only a vertically integrated monopoly that controls the entire industry should be making anything. Sounds like libertarianism. Unless it's a government-owned vertically integrated monopoly. Then any wealth it creates is totally illusory.
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Jan 15, 2016 15:20
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Nolanar posted:That is to be contrasted with the actual government worker who posted here about doing [unambiguously good and helpful thing], and JRod brushed them off as "yeah, you're a parasite on society. Should have joined a non-government group instead!" That was one of the few times I got legitimately pissed off at Jrod, it was just so loving lovely of him. After being hammered on the point that he was dehumanizing an actual person right then and there the best he could do was say, "Well, you probably aren't literally Hitler, so you're One Of The Good OnesTM". It was almost word for word the exact same things a racist would say about and to a black person.
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Jan 15, 2016 15:27
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Jrod, and many other people, have a twisted view of governments, where everything is done by powerful, shapeless enemies. Governments are basically just a bunch of regular rear end people hired to do a variety of different types of jobs. Those people sometimes work for the government for a long time, some only a short time. Some people move from the private sector to the public sector, or vice versa. Some people transition like that several times in their careers. Most people don't think there is anything really that special about it! It's just another job, after all. I've worked for several different governments at various times in my life. Everything I was tasked to do was limited and directed by a range of applicable laws that were passed democratically, or by a group of regulations and rules determined by administrative or legal bodies appointed by democratically elected representatives. When Libertarians refer to "The Government" or "The State" doing something, they are abstracting away observable reality in order to confuse people. The Government is just people doing their jobs, as directed by the voting populace. Grand Theft Autobot fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Jan 15, 2016 |
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Cross posting from the Oregon Occupation thread, a screenshot taken from a chat for the occupiers' live stream.  Argument looks mighty familiar.
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