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coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot
Holy poo poo Making a Murderer is one of the most intense emotional roller coaster whodunits I've binged on since listening to Serial after the first season was done. It just keeps flipping over on itself and I love this poor white trash family of extras from The Hills Have Eyes so much.

It's also super educational about what to do if you ever get interviewed by the police.

Grizzled Patriarch posted:

I was scrolling through Netflix the other day and saw that there is apparently a Stir of Echoes 2, about a guy who comes back from Iraq and sees a ghost. I almost want to watch it because it feels like there might be some interesting stuff under the hood but holy moly it looks bad.
I posted about this a while back in this or the PYF thread, it's legit good. I watched SoE 1 and 2 back to back after the first 15 or so minutes of 2 shocked me and I couldn't remember much of 1.

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Baronash
Feb 29, 2012

So what do you want to be called?

coyo7e posted:

It's also super educational about what to do if you ever get interviewed by the police.

I'm hoping the answer is "Immediately get a lawyer and let him tell you what to do rather than taking hints from tragedy porn"

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Baronash posted:

I'm hoping the answer is "Immediately get a lawyer and let him tell you what to do rather than taking hints from tragedy porn"

The answer is "turn both your middle fingers up at them and keep dead loving quiet."

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

Baronash posted:

I'm hoping the answer is "Immediately get a lawyer and let him tell you what to do rather than taking hints from tragedy porn"
p much yep

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

I sat through season 2 of Helix and wouldn't recommend it to anyone, even those who enjoyed the fever dream first season

Unzip and Attack
Mar 3, 2008

USPOL May

Baronash posted:

I'm hoping the answer is "Immediately get a lawyer and let him tell you what to do rather than taking hints from tragedy porn"

How is it "tragedy porn" to spend years documenting a case and putting the film out with the expressed intent of getting the convicted new trials or appeals?

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

coyo7e posted:

Holy poo poo Making a Murderer is one of the most intense emotional roller coaster whodunits I've binged on since listening to Serial after the first season was done. It just keeps flipping over on itself and I love this poor white trash family of extras from The Hills Have Eyes so much.

It's also super educational about what to do if you ever get interviewed by the police.

I have one episode left, and god yes,

coyo7e posted:

I posted about this a while back in this or the PYF thread, it's legit good. I watched SoE 1 and 2 back to back after the first 15 or so minutes of 2 shocked me and I couldn't remember much of 1.

Definitely, I was pleasantly surprised by a 1.5 star movie, and I own the DVD of SoE1, so I wasn't really expecting much from it.

Bitchkrieg
Mar 10, 2014

Unzip and Attack posted:

How is it "tragedy porn" to spend years documenting a case and putting the film out with the expressed intent of getting the convicted new trials or appeals?

One of the reasons I liked MaM so much was it managed to be sympathetic without being exploitive of the Averys. And if people see this and don't think these kinds of issues - coerced confessions, etc - aren't commonplace in the legal system, they're delusional.

Averys guilt or lack thereof is secondary to the doc's exposure of lovely police practices. I'm sure he killed her, but doubt his nephew has anything to do with it.

Incidentally, a new lawyer has taken over his case (as of 1/2016), Kathleen Zeller, who has made a life's career out of overturning and exonerating wrongful convictions.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Bitchkrieg posted:

Averys guilt or lack thereof is secondary to the doc's exposure of lovely police practices. I'm sure he killed her, but doubt his nephew has anything to do with it.

That's exactly how I feel about it. I haven't settled on if he killed her or not, but how the police handled it, is so horrid it should have been thrown out from the get go. As for the nephew, I'm legit pissed, that even after the thee charges in Stephen's case that were linked with him got thrown out, they continued with the trial anyway

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Baronash posted:

I'm hoping the answer is "Immediately get a lawyer and let him tell you what to do rather than taking hints from tragedy porn"

Uh, yeah, about getting a lawyer... well, just watch the doc.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

Lurdiak posted:

Uh, yeah, about getting a lawyer... well, just watch the doc.
Oh Len... :3:

Because even if you do get a lawyer... If you're unable to understand what's happening around you, or to have a third party guardian to oversee you, then the lawyer can do whatever he wants - which will usually result in a plea because it saves him a ton of work and the possibility of losing.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Don't forget that he didn't even try to believe in his client, repeatedly lied to him, and basically used him to create a case for the prosecution in a separate trial.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Lurdiak posted:

Don't forget that he didn't even try to believe in his client, repeatedly lied to him, and basically used him to create a case for the prosecution in a separate trial.

That was infuriating. I loving hated those public defenders, the entirety of the case was completely stacked in favor of making sure that Stephen hanged for it at the expense of his nephew's life.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


They're not even public defenders! Although they were recommended by a public defender who was related to the victim.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Its not even important really for a public defender to believe their client is innocent, a professional needs to be able to separate all that stuff out and "act as if" the client were innocent. If you can't do that you have no business taking the job.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot
my problem with him was that it was very obvious that the lawyer was totally in it for his own political career, and he wasn't gonna even consider taking it to trial and losing when he could score an easy plea and come out smelling like a rose as "the guy that locked up that awful rapist murderer kid" despite nominally being the defender. And I'm still confused by what he was trying to do with that investigator jesus h christ

Terrorist Fistbump
Jan 29, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

coyo7e posted:

my problem with him was that it was very obvious that the lawyer was totally in it for his own political career, and he wasn't gonna even consider taking it to trial and losing when he could score and easy plea and come out smelling like a rose despite nominally being the defender. And I'm still confused by what he was trying to do with that investigator jesus h christ

He was trying to build a case against Steven Avery at any cost because he, like everyone else involved, was convinced that Avery was extremely guilty and that putting him away forever was the most important thing in the world.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Lurdiak posted:

Don't forget that he didn't even try to believe in his client, repeatedly lied to him, and basically used him to create a case for the prosecution in a separate trial.

The worst thing about Brendan's case is that, even if he did it, I seriously doubt that jail is helping him out. Mental institution at least, come on.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.
Goodnight Mommy is on Prime and I am watching it. Can't give you an impression, because it just started, but I am definitely watching it.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

mysterious frankie posted:

Goodnight Mommy is on Prime and I am watching it. Can't give you an impression, because it just started, but I am definitely watching it.

it's pretty hosed up but i dug it.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

it's pretty hosed up but i dug it.

That's my impression so far. I also feel like what I think is the twist is too obvious in order to get me to me let my guard down, and I'm going to feel like a real rear end in a top hat when I realize my foot's in the snare.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


drat Prime keeps getting movies I want to watch since I canceled it. I was actually going to pay money to rent that on Amazon this weekend.

Sarchasm
Apr 14, 2002

So that explains why he did not answer. He had no mouth to answer with. There is nothing left of him but his ears.

mysterious frankie posted:

That's my impression so far. I also feel like what I think is the twist is too obvious in order to get me to me let my guard down, and I'm going to feel like a real rear end in a top hat when I realize my foot's in the snare.

The final twist is pretty obvious, but it's the mid-movie twist that really caught me off-guard and makes me recommend the film.

Good movie. Super hosed-up.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

Sarchasm posted:

The final twist is pretty obvious, but it's the mid-movie twist that really caught me off-guard and makes me recommend the film.

Good movie. Super hosed-up.

That was pleasantly unpleasant. I can't say I liked watching it, but it was pretty good.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

mysterious frankie posted:

That's my impression so far. I also feel like what I think is the twist is too obvious in order to get me to me let my guard down, and I'm going to feel like a real rear end in a top hat when I realize my foot's in the snare.

I really liked it, and I actually didn't see the ending twist coming at all.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






I'm watching Goodnight Mommy right now and I'm just letting the experience wash over me, it's a pleasant change of pace from playing twist detective for 90+ minutes.

E: I don't mean for that to come off all smuggo, it's actually really hard to tune out the constant buzz of plot speculation in the back of my mind.

McSpanky fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Jan 16, 2016

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.
Is Goodnight Mommy on prime?

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Chichevache posted:

Is Goodnight Mommy on prime?

Yes it is! It's also Danish (I think, or maybe Austrian?), which is cool.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry
Just rewatched Goodnight Mommy. Such a nice creepy film.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Rock Star is such a hilariously bad period piece. I can't even tell if it's supposed to be in the 70's or 80's and it still manages to look like the most 90's thing ever.

fishtobaskets
Feb 22, 2007

It's not about butthole pleasures
Lipstick Apathy
Speaking of prime, I finally watched Bone Tomahawk and it's really great and I love Richard Jenkins but man that one scene is super hosed up.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

fishtobaskets posted:

Speaking of prime, I finally watched Bone Tomahawk and it's really great and I love Richard Jenkins but man that one scene is super hosed up.

Bone Tomahawk was great; I agree with whoever said it has a Weird West vibe. The affected dialogue was a lot of fun too.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
edit: ^^^^ Yeah it's great and the dialogue is sincerely awesome.

I watched CBGB so you don't have to. It's almost watchable for Alan Rickman until the bands show up and it ends up being like the white punk version of Straight Outta Compton. That means it's bad.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

precision posted:

edit: ^^^^ Yeah it's great and the dialogue is sincerely awesome.

I watched CBGB so you don't have to. It's almost watchable for Alan Rickman until the bands show up and it ends up being like the white punk version of Straight Outta Compton. That means it's bad.

I just thought "man I hope that wasn't his final movie" and then I looked it up and it's the Tim Burton wonderland sequel.

Erebus
Jul 13, 2001

Okay... Keep your head, Steve boy...

It sucks that Netflix doesn't have as strong a movie selection as they used to but at least they're putting that money toward great original prograah gently caress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9y61eSRPM8

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Erebus posted:

It sucks that Netflix doesn't have as strong a movie selection as they used to but at least they're putting that money toward great original prograah gently caress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9y61eSRPM8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrGrOK8oZG8

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost
Kinda funny that they are bringing that back after doing Bojack Horseman.

egon_beeblebrox
Mar 1, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



deoju posted:

Kinda funny that they are bringing that back after doing Bojack Horseman.

Season 3 of Bojack should be about Netflix bringing "Horsin' Around" back.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

deoju posted:

Kinda funny that they are bringing that back after doing Bojack Horseman.

The creator of Bojack mentioned in an interview that he pitched an episode idea for Fuller House, and Netflix said it was waaay too dark. I think it involved DJ having a mental breakdown and facing the depression over the realization her dead husband is never coming back, and the cyclical nature of her life of loved ones dying around her.

Sounds hilarious to me.

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egon_beeblebrox
Mar 1, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



Franchescanado posted:

The creator of Bojack mentioned in an interview that he pitched an episode idea for Fuller House, and Netflix said it was waaay too dark. I think it involved DJ having a mental breakdown and facing the depression over the realization her dead husband is never coming back, and the cyclical nature of her life of loved ones dying around her.

Sounds hilarious to me.

I wish I could see that pitch meeting.

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