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Tindahbawx posted:These Blackjacks are really nice, picked up the BJ-1X seeing as it was on sale and it absolutely shovels out the damage. You can shove an AC20 on the BJ-1 http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=77&l=939201a7cd72de394599636045b4a588dc4ea32b is fun as hell
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You can do lots of things
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# ? Jan 15, 2016 21:17 |
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Tindahbawx posted:These Blackjacks are really nice, picked up the BJ-1X seeing as it was on sale and it absolutely shovels out the damage. The 1 has the least hardpoints but doesn't have the reduced yaw the 1DC has. There are only four options anyhow so you're not gonna be bad off in any choice.
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# ? Jan 15, 2016 21:18 |
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ZenVulgarity posted:I have four LRM15s on my timberwolf me too Elliotw2 posted:have you considered trying a fun loadout its more fun in solo drops where no one pushes, and usually if you try to brawl you get primaried and die instantly.
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# ? Jan 15, 2016 21:24 |
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Pattonesque posted:Idk man I don't think the 2LL contribute much there. Since they're so low-mounted you're not gonna get to use them unless your whole mech is exposed and the mechs you're firing at at that range probably have a lot more than 2LL to fire back at you 1 LL and switch the SRMs to 6s? Is artemis worth it for SRMs? Maybe I'll switch it up tonight. Is it crazy that I'm looking forward to playing this game again tonight? and skipping a night at the bar with friends? jesus christ...
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# ? Jan 15, 2016 21:36 |
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Don't run SRMs without Artemis.
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# ? Jan 15, 2016 21:41 |
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DOMDOM posted:Good points. I haven't touched any of these builds in 1+ year, pretty much when they rolled out UI 2.poo poo and made the mechlab awful to use. Bait and Swatch posted:That's what I figured. The SRMs hit like a truck, but the AC20 is usually gone in the first trade of the brawl, so I am questioning the space it costs compared to the actual use I get out of it. Is theLBX 10 at all useful, or is it better to just get better lasers? so here's why I think you should both go AC/20 and 3 ASRM6 and either nothing else or two medium lasers An Atlas D-DC with those weapons has a 58 damage alpha. An Atlas-S with the extra ASRM6 is 71 damage when you come around the corner in an Atlas, your job is to pick a robot and deliver that entire alpha into his CT, twist away, then repeat until he's dead. Your AC/20 should last long enough for you to do this at least three times, more if you're lucky. Most robots will die after two of these alphas. All of them with few exceptions will go down after three. Sometimes not all the SRMs will hit the CT, so you want as much extra pinpoint as possible when doing this. Using a large laser means that you have to use a smaller engine, which is bad because you can't twist to protect yourself as fast, or smaller SRMs, which is bad because a 45-point alpha is a lot less scary than a 58-point alpha. Using an LBX-10 means that 20-point shot which all goes to one component is suddenly a 10-point shot, only about 7 or 8 of which will hit the same component if you find yourself losing the AC/20 after one shot, the solution is to either lead with your left shoulder or be more aggressive about twisting. If you ever play in a match with Kazvall, spectate how he plays the Atlas -- he twists like crazy and only stops long enough to let loose with the big guns
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# ? Jan 15, 2016 22:01 |
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oh and Warhammer quirks are out http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/219540-countdown-to-the-warhammer-release-4-days-left/ looks very tanky
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I tried running an LBX-10 on one of my lovely variant Atlases while getting their skills ground out, and I really didn't much care for it. The AC20 does die fairly quickly against anybody who knows what they're doing, but I end up being rather free with my shots to make up for it. If it's likely going to be rendered useless, why not burn that ammo? And if someone turns a corner into your face, they're going to have a bad, bad time. AC20 to punch into internals makes it fairly easy to blow a torso out pretty much immediately. AC20 -> all the SRMs -> VICTORY. Plus, IS AC20 hits are probably the most satisfying thing in the game. Especially in those rare occasions where a light mech is playing grabass with some guys on your team and doesn't realize he's ended up in a straight line with you. They absolutely disintegrate under that kind of assault.
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# ? Jan 15, 2016 22:09 |
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Does Artemis have any trade-offs in the style of Ferro or Endosteel? I admittedly did not look very hard but it seemed like just a C-bill tax? e: Zaodai posted:Plus, IS AC20 hits are probably the most satisfying thing in the game. Especially in those rare occasions where a light mech is playing grabass with some guys on your team and doesn't realize he's ended up in a straight line with you. They absolutely disintegrate under that kind of assault. frest fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Jan 15, 2016 |
# ? Jan 15, 2016 22:20 |
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Artemis launchers take up 1 more slot and weight 1 more ton.
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# ? Jan 15, 2016 22:22 |
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Drakes posted:Artemis launchers take up 1 more slot and weight 1 more ton. I think (hope) he was referring specifically to atlas/heavy builds
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# ? Jan 15, 2016 22:27 |
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Pattonesque posted:oh and Warhammer quirks are out The question is what the hitboxes are going to be like. I have a nasty suspicion that it's going to be a walking torso and the structure quirks will be needed. Still, +20CT is nothing to sniff at.
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# ? Jan 15, 2016 22:28 |
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Do PPC quirks apply to ERPPCs?
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# ? Jan 15, 2016 22:31 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:The question is what the hitboxes are going to be like. I have a nasty suspicion that it's going to be a walking torso and the structure quirks will be needed. yeah, and some nice ballistic quirks I think the Black Widow is basically gonna be a CTF-4X except with high mounts
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# ? Jan 15, 2016 22:31 |
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Pattonesque posted:oh and Warhammer quirks are out PPC quirks without PPC heat. Ice Fist posted:Do PPC quirks apply to ERPPCs? Generally, no, but you don't want to boat ERPPCs anyway because they are literally the worst weapon in the game right now.
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# ? Jan 15, 2016 22:32 |
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Lemon Curdistan posted:you don't want to boat ERPPCs anyway because they are literally the worst weapon in the game right now. What if I told you that I am literally the worst? *he said with a hand full of ERPPCs and a twinkle in his eye* Ice Fist fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Jan 15, 2016 |
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kitting her out right now, thanks for the detailed explanation.
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# ? Jan 15, 2016 22:36 |
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Lemon Curdistan posted:Generally, no, but you don't want to boat ERPPCs anyway because they are literally the worst weapon in the game right now.
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# ? Jan 15, 2016 22:42 |
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I spectated this thing today. Today has been a wonderful day for spectating terrible builds and or piloting.
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# ? Jan 15, 2016 22:43 |
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DOMDOM posted:kitting her out right now, thanks for the detailed explanation. cheers. it takes some getting used to because you can't do anything beyond a few hundred meters, but it wins games on its own if you're patient
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# ? Jan 15, 2016 22:45 |
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I like ppcs. >: (
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# ? Jan 15, 2016 22:49 |
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too many lrms in the pubby queue
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# ? Jan 15, 2016 22:54 |
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Time to stick close to your ECM buddy. Or waste tonnage on AMS umbrella.
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# ? Jan 15, 2016 23:05 |
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Bentai posted:Time to stick close to your ECM buddy. Or waste tonnage on AMS umbrella. walk behind a wall or something!
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# ? Jan 15, 2016 23:10 |
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Banano posted:~light mech stuff~ Rock, thanks, gonna give it a spin with an XL 265 and an extra 100 rockets since I frequently run out. It's still slightly faster than it was before I had speed tweak on the XL 280, so it's something I'm already used to. I assumed that with the hero variant Black Widow having ER PPCs equipped and PPC quirks they worked together, but welp. Sard fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Jan 15, 2016 |
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Ice Fist posted:What if I told you that I am literally the worst? You need to get your literally worst self back in mech jabber
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# ? Jan 15, 2016 23:26 |
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I love how its all bound to the same fire group.
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# ? Jan 16, 2016 00:06 |
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Tindahbawx posted:I love how its all bound to the same fire group. Doesn't that always show up that way in spec
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# ? Jan 16, 2016 00:06 |
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Tindahbawx posted:I love how its all bound to the same fire group. that's how it shows up when you spectate unfortunately it is still an inexplicably bad robot that would lose to any other robot at any range
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# ? Jan 16, 2016 00:07 |
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Tindahbawx posted:I love how its all bound to the same fire group. Spectator isn't indicative of what he has bound. Sorry. No love for you.
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# ? Jan 16, 2016 00:07 |
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ZenVulgarity posted:Doesn't that always show up that way in spec Pattonesque posted:that's how it shows up when you spectate unfortunately Endbuster posted:Spectator isn't indicative of what he has bound. Sorry. No love for you. Jesus gently caress. We are such faggots.
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# ? Jan 16, 2016 00:08 |
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mashed_penguin posted:You need to get your literally worst self back in mech jabber There's a 100% chance that I will not get in Jabber. I do hang out in Mumble when I play this bad game though.
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# ? Jan 16, 2016 00:12 |
Just had a game on Terra Therma where, despite it being Assault and there being no reason to enter the butthole, my entire team lined up single file to enter said butthole where the enemy team was already holed up and died horribly. I tried to tell them to ignore it and hit their base to force them to confront us somewhere else, but...pubbies.
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# ? Jan 16, 2016 00:17 |
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Always rush the butthole.
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# ? Jan 16, 2016 00:18 |
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Ice Fist posted:There's a 100% chance that I will not get in Jabber.
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# ? Jan 16, 2016 00:36 |
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https://twitter.com/russ_bullock/status/688139921383534592?s=09
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# ? Jan 16, 2016 00:52 |
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I imagine by scaling they mean adjusting the size of the mech indicative to the tonnage it's suppose to represent? E: I thought they were going to remodel the Catapult?
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# ? Jan 16, 2016 00:54 |
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Stringbean posted:I imagine by scaling they mean adjusting the size of the mech indicative to the tonnage it's suppose to represent? yeah, making them smaller all the robots on that list are way oversized
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# ? Jan 16, 2016 00:57 |
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Atlas Talk. I do not recommend the DADlas for pubbie games. Seriously when the S was first released I had no idea what to do with it but it had a cbill boost so I wanted to use it. I made the ultimate pubbyBot. 1 AC20 1 Narc 1 Lrm20 or 15 4 mls whatever engine would fit after ammo Bind the ac20 and narc to fire together Literally printed money in the solo q. This was pre quirks and pre ghost heat on 4 srms. Do not build this robot now or ever. or anything resembling it.
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