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i love this damned thread and all its posters literally damned, we're going to hell, hail satan
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Ammat The Ankh posted:I keep checking on this thread every time it gets a new post, because I assume it'll be an update or some new information from Hussie. In the SA thread, as the Secret Wars pause progressed, goons went out to say the delay killed their motivation and interest in the story. From all accounts, Hickman killed it, and some of these goons instantly proclaimed it a classic among the best Marvel stories told. I don't have any doubt I'll see the same thing happen when HS ends. (If you want to know what it's about, a Secret Serket Society decides to save their world and their universe by going Mindfang. It ends as well for them as you'd expect)
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Jan 15, 2016 12:52
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Ytlaya posted:Is it the one where Dave installs Sburb and Rose enters the game? I just saw that not too long ago and am reading the intermission after it now. It was neat and the only thing that confused me at first was when breaking the bottle caused her to enter the game, but then I remembered that the apple is what caused John to enter. Yep, that's the one. "Sburban Jungle" is a super iconic track in homestuck music and you'll recognize samples of it in a lot of future music. As for the intermission, it's supposed to be a bit of a silly clusterfuck, but it's not super necessary to keep most of their powers straight. It will end up being relevant later though.
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Jan 15, 2016 13:13
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How can you not like four noir gangsters murdering a bunch of time travelling elves. Might not have much to do with homestuck's story right now but the story loving does that a lot and this was one of the few times where it dragged the reader to something unrelated but fantastic. But whatever to each their own, However if you dislike the midknight crew intermission and actually like hivebent we might have to fight.
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Jan 15, 2016 13:17
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isasphere posted:How so? Well, mostly the stuff about Dave and his bro, like the way "Time on My Side" includes a number of metal sounds that we now know Dave hates.
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Jan 15, 2016 13:51
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Ytlaya posted:This part with the gangsters fighting green guys in a buildings full of clocks is really confusing (not just because I'm not familiar with the characters, but also because I can't figure out the time powers some of the green guys have). I'm assuming this will make sense later or something? I honestly wanted to skip this part until someone told me it would be relevant. Don't worry about keeping things straight right away and just power through anything you don't understand, it doesn't make too much of a difference. The most important characters are the four card-suit gangsters and the one woman on the other side.
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Jan 15, 2016 16:59
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GunnerJ posted:I honestly wanted to skip this part until someone told me it would be relevant. Don't worry about keeping things straight right away and just power through anything you don't understand, it doesn't make too much of a difference. The most important characters are the four card-suit gangsters and the one woman on the other side.
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Jan 15, 2016 17:14
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imo that's the kind of attitude that not only will have you not finish homestuck but feel ashamed of the time you spent reading it. Don't worry about how things tie to the main story. They'll be explained. Find enjoyment in the part you're reading now. I stopped reading homestuck at act 6 when time after time again the part I wanted the comic to focus on had been dropped while it chased after a brand new toy idea/character set time and time again. I was never able to finish reading homestuck until I realized that what homestuck is changes capriciously and the part that was important to me was not going to come back. You don't worry about figuring out homestuck, homestuck is too busy figuring out itself. Once I dropped those expectations I was able to enjoy the comic on a rereading including the parts I had once dreaded. Midknight crew intermission, at its time, I don't think was supposed to be entertaining because of some super storyline poo poo that it ends up barely tying to. It's enjoyable because it's bloody and funny and brute force wins over overcomplicated time travel powers and it's a bone thrown to problem sleuth readers who missed that kind of anarchy. Stories are meant to be enjoyed not be a bunch of meaningless cryptic symbols.
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Jan 15, 2016 17:21
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That's funny, because one of the things I like about Homestuck is how every little thing ties together one way or another. I guess that is why I enjoy those theorizing that others in the thread do not: if I am being shown that even the fact that that book is heavy enough to kill a cat ends up being relevant, all those tidbits about the game and whatnot look tantalizingly like a pattern that waits only to be understood.
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Jan 15, 2016 17:26
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If the intermission was a standalone story I'd probably like it more than I like Homestuck as a whole
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Jan 15, 2016 17:30
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way I feel about it is be in the moment you're reading, then think about all the connections and stuff when you're on a break from reading it. Like notice the symbols and poo poo but don't just frantically click it looking for a symbol you found to be important instead of reading it or enjoying it because if you're doing that what's the point, the symbols are important but enjoying it and reading it are important too.
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Jan 15, 2016 17:30
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Acne Rain posted:way I feel about it is be in the moment you're reading, then think about all the connections and stuff when you're on a break from reading it. I think this is an excellent strategy. That's what I did on my first lightning read, then I spent a lot of time like Plom Bar, chasing down the stuff I didn't understand or had missed. For instance, [S] Cascade is really dense, and it was for watchers at the time. It really helps to pause and go find somebody laying out everything that just happened.
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Jan 15, 2016 17:34
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Reading webcomics requires strategy
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Jan 15, 2016 17:37
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Acne Rain posted:imo that's the kind of attitude that not only will have you not finish homestuck but feel ashamed of the time you spent reading it. It's the only attitude that got me through to reading the rest of Homestuck when this bizarre out-of-nowhere interlude about random time fuckery dropped suddenly and without warning, which is why I recommend it for that one part alone.
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Jan 15, 2016 17:39
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Regy Rusty posted:Reading webcomics requires strategy Reading Proust or War and Peace sure the hell does.
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Jan 15, 2016 17:58
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Reading Proust or War and Peace sure the hell does. my proust strategy is "read literally anything else"
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Jan 15, 2016 17:59
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Reading War and Peace, which I did decades ago, was made much, much easier by a card listing all the different names that you could call one character. (Sasha, or Alexander Nicolaevich, or the Prince of Idunno, and so on.)
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Jan 15, 2016 18:13
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Drawing diagrams of characters' locations and relationships to each other is pretty standard practice if you're in a 3000-level literature study course. Which is the main reason I never finished my English degree.
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Jan 15, 2016 18:25
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while that one pbs thing comparing homestuck to gravitys rainbow is still the lamest thing ever, it has a slight point in that homestuck is also a huge sprawling work that leaps around haphazardly and intentionally tries to disorient the reader with a gigantic cast of characters and inconsistent orders of events. then of course there the insufferably po-mo device of seguing directly from dick jokes to existential quandaries whil the author audibly chuckles at the audiences discomfort. theyre also both mostly unreadable for most people and not even their respective authors best works paranoid randroid fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Jan 15, 2016 |
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Jan 15, 2016 18:30
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CidGregor posted:Yep, that's the one. "Sburban Jungle" is a super iconic track in homestuck music and you'll recognize samples of it in a lot of future music. Ytlaya posted:I like the music during the Flash game part where I'm John ([S] ACT 4 ==>). Along with Sburban Jungle from the Rose Enter flash, the music from the Act Four Walkaround is Doctor, which you will hear quoted so many times in conjunction with an unreleased song that people actually confuse the two.
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Jan 15, 2016 18:37
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if homestuck is the ulysses of the internet whats hussie's finnegans wake
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Jan 15, 2016 18:51
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Irony Be My Shield posted:If the intermission was a standalone story I'd probably like it more than I like Homestuck as a whole The intermission is a lot like Problem Sleuth, a standalone story that's better than Homestuck as a whole
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Jan 15, 2016 19:03
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Also true.
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Jan 15, 2016 19:29
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I really like The Felt. I wish there were more Felt adventures I could read about. That is my opinion.
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Jan 15, 2016 19:43
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Regy Rusty posted:Reading webcomics requires strategy Dolash has done a great service by letting me read the comic for leisure and then just nod at their posts without doing any of that thinking or ~strategizing~ myself.
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Jan 15, 2016 19:43
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Ammat The Ankh posted:The intermission is a lot like Problem Sleuth, a standalone story that's better than Homestuck as a whole I've read through homestuck twice and can't make it through sleuth and I've tried multiple times 
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Jan 15, 2016 19:53
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Death Bot posted:I've read through homestuck twice and can't make it through sleuth and I've tried multiple times Boooooooooo! Your opinions are bad and you should feel bad!
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Jan 15, 2016 20:17
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I was that way for a while. Then Topatoco accidentally sent me Volume 5 with my order and I read that. That inspired me to go back and reread the whole thing. It's definitely a flavor all its own, and is far more up its own rear end about fake gaming abstractions than what Homestuck ultimately became, but it's a good read.
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Jan 15, 2016 20:21
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I mean I'm like 3/4 through it I guess and it just feels like all the arcane plot elements of homestuck without the characters that I like. It's funny sometimes but I stopped reading it for a bit one time and the already unfollowable comic I had no investment in felt that much more confusing
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Jan 15, 2016 23:47
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Death Bot posted:I mean I'm like 3/4 through it I guess and it just feels like all the arcane plot elements of homestuck without the characters that I like. It's funny sometimes but I stopped reading it for a bit one time and the already unfollowable comic I had no investment in felt that much more confusing I tried reading it and had trouble getting into it because my favorite part of Homestuck (so far at least) is the chatlogs and seeing these silly characters talk to one another. I don't think I'd enjoy it a fraction as much if not for those.
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Jan 16, 2016 01:54
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The intermission is supposed to teach you the personalities of Jack Noir, CD, HB, and DD when they appear later in the story. This is really only the first of many times when you'll be jumping forwards or backwards in time as the story is told very non-linearly, at least in the coming acts.
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Jan 16, 2016 10:30
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Ytlaya posted:I tried reading it and had trouble getting into it because my favorite part of Homestuck (so far at least) is the chatlogs and seeing these silly characters talk to one another. I don't think I'd enjoy it a fraction as much if not for those. Yeah I'm about in this same boat. Problems Sleuth is still good, but I don't like it nearly as much. The really in-depth character interactions are what really sell me on Homestuck. Well, that and the music.
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Jan 16, 2016 12:02
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Plom Bar posted:Drawing diagrams of characters' locations and relationships to each other is pretty standard practice if you're in a 3000-level literature study course. Which is the main reason I never finished my English degree. Look, if you don't know the entire family tree of the Elven Kings in the Silmarillion by heart, you're not even trying.
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Jan 16, 2016 16:05
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Spellman posted:The intermission is supposed to teach you the personalities of Jack Noir, CD, HB, and DD when they appear later in the story. This is really only the first of many times when you'll be jumping forwards or backwards in time as the story is told very non-linearly, at least in the coming acts. Of course, by and large those characters almost immediately went on to be usurped for other villains and mostly did absolutely nothing.
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Jan 16, 2016 18:07
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Of course, by and large those characters almost immediately went on to be usurped for other villains and mostly did absolutely nothing. While that's true for HB, and true after Act 5 for CD, Jack remains a super important character even still and DD was a major threat for a good chunk of Act 6. The Intermission also introduced us to something far more pressing. Lord English. Honestly, the only villain really introduced after the Intermission was the Troll Queen...who is only a technicality as John already despised her very existence before hand.
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Jan 16, 2016 18:11
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We also learn about Snowman and her relation to the universe she occupies, which certainly is relevant.
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Jan 16, 2016 18:32
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Haha wow, future Dave just appeared and then went back and prototyped himself with present Dave's sprite, wasn't expecting that. I was expecting that John was being tricked though (not that it was much of a surprise).
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Jan 16, 2016 21:07
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You're reminding me of all the cool stuff I really liked in this comic. I'd be real interested in your opinion on Act 6 as it comes out. I know I'm not not really a fan, and I think it's kind of what made me go from "oh god Homestuck is the best thing" to "eh, it's pretty good I guess", I know a bunch of people in this thread say it works much better on a reread, but I didn't really find that and it'd be cool to hear what a total newbie feels about it.
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Ytlaya posted:Haha wow, future Dave just appeared and then went back and prototyped himself with present Dave's sprite, wasn't expecting that.
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Out of curiosity,. when exactly (that is, what point in the comic) did Homestuck become so popular?
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