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Uroboros posted:Full Circle snatched up my old Nids so I'll thank him here for helping to plug my 40k deficit. Good lord. I am erect.
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They are indeed beautiful. Another question about Orks, possibly easier to answer - are there any trap units to avoid? e.g. No one fields Havocs for CSM since there's Obliterators, and you wouldn't field Warp Talons since there's Raptors.
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Milotic posted:Another question about Orks, possibly easier to answer - are there any trap units to avoid? Yeah the Codex.
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Killa Kans kinda suck. They used to be OK but the triple nerf in the new book really hurt them (points increase, worse CCW and a pseudo morale effect when one dies). The G/Morkanauts suck unfortunately, combination of high points, oddly low transport capacity without the assault rule, and mediocre weapons make them more of a 'fun' option than a viable unit. Most of the fancy Mek Guns aren't really worth it, it's usually best to stick with Kannons and Lobbas. Main exceptions are the Tractor Kannon if you know you're up against some nasty fliers, and possibly the Bubble gun versus hordes of lightly armoured guys.
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It seems to me if you are looking at it from a math perspective going with blast weapons as Orks is the way to go. The distance reduction on scatter doesn't seem to be nearly as big of a deal as rolling 5s and 6s to hit with normal guns. For instance Space Marine guns are going to hit twice as often as Ork guns, but space marine blasts are going to hit roughly the same because everyone is going to get a direct hit atleast 1/3rd of the time not factoring BS reduction, and that is only going to matter when you roll low scatter distances, most scatter rolls of 7 or higher mean you are going to miss regardless of your BS.
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Milotic posted:They are indeed beautiful. Sadly to play Orks and not get steam rolled you need to use the cheesiest, most beardy net lists you can find. If you use any of the sub-optimal or lol-random fun units you are likely to just get tabled in a few turns. Off the top of my head the stuff worth considering: Mega Nobz Mega Armor Warboss (lucky stix) Battle Wagons Grotz as objective grabbers Single Kopta Units to harass and act as bullet magnets Buggies to move fast and screen your Wagons Slugga Choppa boyz I think that's about it. People who play orks can give you some better ideas, but orks are now kind of dull and very prone to getting their rear end kicked by nearly every other army in the game. Que the cries of "There are no bad armies, just bad players". Play orks, then try playing Space Marines, it's like switching the game from Hard mode to Easy mode.
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Indolent Bastard posted:Sadly to play Orks and not get steam rolled you need to use the cheesiest, most beardy net lists you can find. If you use any of the sub-optimal or lol-random fun units you are likely to just get tabled in a few turns. There are no bad armies, just bad players. Bad playing starts at list building.
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Boyz in trukks en masse, Big Gunz, Grot Bomb Launchas from forgeworld, MANs, biker boys, outflanking buggies, deffkoptas... all of those are pretty good tbh.
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Naramyth posted:There are no bad armies, just bad players. Thank you.   Lord Twisted posted:Boyz in trukks en masse, Big Gunz, Grot Bomb Launchas from forgeworld, MANs, biker boys, outflanking buggies, deffkoptas... all of those are pretty good tbh. I'd disagree with trukks, too fragile for the cost and don't move enough men across the board (especially after they blow up and kill the guys inside) but Gunz and Bikes are OK.
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Indolent Bastard posted:Thank you.   Pretty jacked for LVO. Playing a terrible BA drop pod army in both the Open and the Team event. I can't wait to pull my teammate's skyhammer/jetbike army that rocked Renegade and get kicked out of top 8. 
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Naramyth posted:There are no bad armies, just bad players. list building starts at army selection
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Thanks for all the tips and pointers everyone. I know if I was looking to go competitive for my next army I'd go Tau, but having a look at some of the models, the helmetless Tau / ethereal are so crappy looking. The suits are gorgeous however. I'm also feeling the pull of Tyranids now. I think I have a problem with falling in love with bottom to middle tier armies, partly because they remind me of my childhood and second ed and lusting after the models and wondering what to buy with my pocket money.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:list building starts at army selection 
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Indolent Bastard posted:Que the cries of "There are no bad armies, just bad players". Play orks, then try playing Space Marines, it's like switching the game from Hard mode to Easy mode. Also, see sisters versus marines.
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For those that are still interested - we are starting The Independent Characters up again in March. I'm organizing the recording schedule right now with guests and topics. I'm committed now to doing at least one year. http://theindependentcharacters.com/blog/?p=3716
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Ghost Hand posted:For those that are still interested - we are starting The Independent Characters up again in March. I'm organizing the recording schedule right now with guests and topics. I'm committed now to doing at least one year. This pleases me.
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Ghost Hand posted:For those that are still interested - we are starting The Independent Characters up again in March. I'm organizing the recording schedule right now with guests and topics. I'm committed now to doing at least one year. Nice! Looking forwad to it.
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Will you be issuing challenges?
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aww hell yeah, thats awesome.
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Great news Ghost Hand!
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Ghost Hand posted:For those that are still interested - we are starting The Independent Characters up again in March. I'm organizing the recording schedule right now with guests and topics. I'm committed now to doing at least one year. This is great! I've been missing the show and it's positive hobby energy!
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This is amazing news, but what caused the change of mind? Either way, super awesome to have you guys back! I have hobby inspirado again!
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Ghost Hand posted:For those that are still interested - we are starting The Independent Characters up again in March. I'm organizing the recording schedule right now with guests and topics. I'm committed now to doing at least one year.  Now I guess I should listen to the two previous episodes I've missed.
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The best news.
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Jan 16, 2016 11:54
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Awesome news! Did you manage to get Jordan to make your new theme yet? 
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Ghost Hand posted:For those that are still interested - we are starting The Independent Characters up again in March. I'm organizing the recording schedule right now with guests and topics. I'm committed now to doing at least one year. I am a great guest. I know a fair bit about SW lore, Mechanicus lore/playing and Necrons.
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Milotic posted:I know if I was looking to go competitive for my next army I'd go Tau, but having a look at some of the models, the helmetless Tau / ethereal are so crappy looking. The suits are gorgeous however. I agree, but you can pretty much avoid using helmetless Tau models entirely. I feel the same way about Space Marines and their grotesque faces so I always model them with their helmets on. Don't buy Orks. It is likely that you will not have fun with them unless you are of a particular mindset and it's not worth spending hundreds of dollars just to find out that you are Not An Ork Player.
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LordAba posted:Also, see sisters versus marines. I was at an ETC qualifier playing against a sisters player who was convinced that I would walk away from the game with a renewed respect for the sisters. I was playing war convocation. I tabled him in turn 5.
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Phyresis posted:I agree, but you can pretty much avoid using helmetless Tau models entirely. I feel the same way about Space Marines and their grotesque faces so I always model them with their helmets on. Don't buy Orks. It is likely that you will not have fun with them unless you are of a particular mindset and it's not worth spending hundreds of dollars just to find out that you are Not An Ork Player. Thanks, what mindset? I love fielding cultist blobs and smashing them into tougher enemies and drowning them and tar pitting them.
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Milotic posted:Thanks, what mindset? I love fielding cultist blobs and smashing them into tougher enemies and drowning them and tar pitting them. The mindset of "I won't win, but can enjoy a defeat that includes some funny poo poo happening to my guys". If you don't think that the shock attack gun is the best and funniest thing ever, you may not enjoy the current incarnation of Orks.
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Enentol posted:This is amazing news, but what caused the change of mind? I'll explain more in episode 129 but you can thank/blame Jason Mullins of The Overlords for kind of getting it all going. Then recording the "not an episode" made me remember how much fun it was.
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Ghost Hand posted:For those that are still interested - we are starting The Independent Characters up again in March. I'm organizing the recording schedule right now with guests and topics. I'm committed now to doing at least one year. I recently started taking the bus in to work and have listened to a few of your old episode. Very highly excited to hear you're coming back.
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Ghost Hand posted:For those that are still interested - we are starting The Independent Characters up again in March. I'm organizing the recording schedule right now with guests and topics. I'm committed now to doing at least one year. Jesus Christ I miss you guys so much. I haven't listened to the final episode because I didn't want it to be over (listened to the Not An Episode though!). You coming back is going to be so good for my hobby / bad for my wallet. I'm putting in a 1-Carl (free-shipping-tier) FW order today in celebration.
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I'm stoked to have the ICs back! I just got back from Prague, and I checked out a really cool game store called Ogre's Den. Since Warhams stuff doesn't get translated into Czech, everything is in English there, and they had like every BL novel imaginable as well as games and models from every system you could really think of. The level of painting and modeling on display in their cabinets was pretty solid too. The folks were super friendly and welcomed me to come back to play a game or paint there, but it being a short trip with my girlfriend, I wasn't gonna drag her back there while I played with mandollies. Here's some pictures of the place:      They had a map campaign going on:  There was also a dude slowly working on a gargant:  There were some gothic as gently caress cathedrals:   And grimdark Disneyland at the Sedlec Ossuary:        There's at least 40,000 skeletons there  Bonus Black Templar chapel barracks and Sigismund:    That concludes Grimdark Tours, have a skelly day
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SRM posted:I'm stoked to have the ICs back! /\ | (Edit: I meant to link all the skull/bone pictures in the cathedral) And they say GW overuses skulls... I think this was the place they filmed part of the Dungeons and Dragons movie that was terrible. What an awesome trip man. I have been following your photos on FB!
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Ghost Hand posted:I think this was the place they filmed part of the Dungeons and Dragons movie that was terrible.
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Full Circle, I won't be getting home until later today after post office closes, I'll get your Nids in the mail Monday morning, sorry.
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Did the cathedral have flying buttresses? It needs flying buttresses to be a Gothic era church. We take art history seriously here in the 40k thread.
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The Sedlic ossuary is pretty much a mandatory destination to visit if you're in the Czech Republic, when I was there for a class trip something like 10 years ago now we visited the place. It is really memorable place just because of all the bones and it feels really creepy. Pretty sure we visited that cathedral as well that SRM was at too.
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Prague owns. Unrelated note, I finally finished the Chaos Warhound ANAmal gave me almost two years ago. This thing was harder to assemble than it was to paint, but that didn't stop me from putting it off forever.  More pics:   
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