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I think the biggest thing about Twin is that it pretty much forced every deck in the format to either have a gameplan to win by Turn 4 before Twin went "oops I won", or have some way of locking the game down. Decks that actually win on turn 5+ might be a thing now! Assuming they can get by Burn, Infect, and Tron anyways. But all 3 of those decks can easily be hated out with sideboard cards. Burn gets completely crushed with certain sideboard options, Tron can be easily disrupted, and Infect well. gently caress Infect. Also Hatebears is now gonna move on up sense it hates on tron too (can't search den libraries unless you pay 2!), and Merfolk is gonna be even stronger sense it maindecks land disruption. Jund will be fine with maindeck Fulminators, Tec Edges, and plenty of Hand Disruption. Scapeshift will be a big whatever the gently caress still. And the Modern Eldrazi decks will still be a thing.
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Mezzanon posted:OH GREAT A FOIL STAMP PROMO HEDRON ALIGNMENT IN MY SEALED POOL gently caress THIS GAY EARTH. The worst guy at my LGS got a promo Call the Gatewatch, that was the best tonight. He whined so much, like he always does. Got more joy out of that than winning.
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Bread Set Jettison posted:That sucks but thats also kind of sweet Find three more and figure out how to live the dream.
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Jan 16, 2016 12:48
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anglachel posted:Decks that actually win on turn 5+ might be a thing now! Assuming they can get by Burn, Infect, and Tron anyways. But all 3 of those decks can easily be hated out with sideboard cards. Burn gets completely crushed with certain sideboard options, Tron can be easily disrupted, and Infect well. gently caress Infect. Sudden Shock for starters. Really, the biggest mistake I always see people make across formats is to think it's a good idea to try and remove an infect creature during combat. That's just having the cake and eating it too for me.
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Jan 16, 2016 12:50
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Print force of will or something so that combo decks can stop being banned in modern jesus christ
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Jan 16, 2016 12:59
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GoutPatrol posted:Find three more and figure out how to live the dream. I did use it as a scion token (still in its wrapper!)
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Jan 16, 2016 13:01
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As an affinity player I am glad they banned my deck's worst matchup. Please dont pick up stony silences or anything everyone else.
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Jan 16, 2016 13:36
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Zoness posted:As an affinity player I am glad they banned my deck's worst matchup. I think Affinity accounts for the most sideboard space of any deck, I doubt it will get much more. Didn't think Twin was too bad myself, I usually main Galvanic Blast, sometimes have Dispatch in the board. Thinking I might get the tron lands, I've heard it suggested they go into the Eldrazi deck, or that it and Tron might merge.
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Jan 16, 2016 13:56
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now they just need to ban ensnaring bridge, and merfolk can take its rightful place as the best deck in the format 
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Jan 16, 2016 14:02
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im glad they banned the one deck in the format that asked your opponent to interact with you or consider your possible actions during play and we can all now just sit at a table, play our cards in solemn silence for some turns and then look up and figure out who won
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Jan 16, 2016 14:44
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Ciprian Maricon posted:im glad they banned the one deck in the format that asked your opponent to interact with you or consider your possible actions during play and we can all now just sit at a table, play our cards in solemn silence for some turns and then look up and figure out who won I don't think you described a deck that plays Remand there.
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Jan 16, 2016 14:53
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BizarroAzrael posted:I don't think you described a deck that plays Remand there. Remand is a bad card because sometimes when your opponent may or may not have it and then you have to think of the possible outcomes of all those possibilities and that's not very fun. I hope it's gets banned
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Jan 16, 2016 15:00
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Ciprian Maricon posted:Remand is a bad card because sometimes when your opponent may or may not have it and then you have to think of the possible outcomes of all those possibilities and that's not very fun. I hope it's gets banned We should bring the game back to its roots, vanilla creatures and enchantments!
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Jan 16, 2016 15:01
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I am happy as long as countertop doesn't get banned since that means I can chat @ my opponent about whatever else instead of chatting about magic. When my friends and typical LGS legacy players play against me, they know what I'm playing. So, we usually start chatting about cooking since we have the game procedure down pat after a couple years. 
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Jan 16, 2016 15:04
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Twin was a fun deck to play but I completely understand this banning. No one wanted to watch a pro tour of all Twin mirrors.
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Jan 16, 2016 15:07
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Yeah, at least a third of my (regularly 30+ player) metagame was playing some form of Splinter Twin. I'm not sad to see it go. Maybe I can actually play against Tron and get some of these so-called "free wins" I should be getting every week with Infect.
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Ciprian Maricon posted:im glad they banned the one deck in the format that asked your opponent to interact with you or consider your possible actions during play and we can all now just sit at a table, play our cards in solemn silence for some turns and then look up and figure out who won Ah yes, the "only blue decks are interactive" argument
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Jan 16, 2016 15:14
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I think they should print spreading seas in red so goblins can take their rightful first place at the top.
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GoutPatrol posted:Ah yes, the "only blue decks are interactive" argument I am trying to figure out what I have been doing with jund all this time.
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Ciprian Maricon posted:im glad they banned the one deck in the format that asked your opponent to interact with you or consider your possible actions during play and we can all now just sit at a table, play our cards in solemn silence for some turns and then look up and figure out who won it's not the game's fault you only think at sorcery speed
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Jan 16, 2016 15:19
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More stupid modern price spikes!!! http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/dragons-maze/voice-of-resurgence http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/product/show?ProductName=Urborg%2c+Tomb+of+Yawgmoth&newSearch=false&ProductType=All&IsProductNameExact=true http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/product/show?ProductName=Karn+Liberated&newSearch=false&ProductType=All&IsProductNameExact=true
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Jan 16, 2016 15:31
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The two at at least mythics that have always been strong 
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Jan 16, 2016 15:31
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Fish analysis: Twin died. Lost a deck we prey on by promoting a dangerous board backed up with countermagic, we never had specific sideboard hate for this because the hate is other cards for other match ups that just happened to work for twin (Vapor Snag, Countermagic, Dismember). Tron is suddenly looking up. It's our worst match uplease (besides affinity). Nothing fucks over Merfolk like Pyroclasm into O Stone into Wurmcoil. Bloom Titan being gone or at least not winning on turn 2 is a big thing, what does Vial into Lord with Vial ready for Cursecatcher do to Bloom Titan? Yup. loving nothing. Vapor Snag your Titan is hilarious though. So basically, Tron, on top of having its worst match ups just vanish overnight, is also getting a bunch of powerful cards coming in next week. Dark day for fish.
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Count Bleck posted:Fish analysis: Hot Take: Banning 2 unfair decks will make unfair decks even better in Modern.
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mcmagic posted:Hot Take: Banning 2 unfair decks will make unfair decks even better in Modern. Look, I can play Coco hate bears now, so it's not a total disaster.
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PleasantDirge posted:We should bring the game back to its roots, vanilla creatures and enchantments! Reprint Hurloon Minotaur The Twin ban's okay with me because I like watching nerds getting mad about being blindsided, as if Wizards hasn't made it abundantly clear that paying lots of money for good modern decks is a loving terrible idea.
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Jan 16, 2016 15:58
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Count Bleck posted:Look, I can play Coco hate bears now, so it's not a total disaster. I guess that's why voice is 50 bucks now?
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Hopping Ghost posted:Reprint Hurloon Minotaur I learned this lesson after pod got banned, but then, Abzan company saved my wallet. mcmagic posted:I guess that's why voice is 50 bucks now? Gosh I'm glad I own a playset.
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The crowd whining about losing value is funny to me. Twin ban means maybe $30-$35 worth of cards don't really get played anymore (twin and exarch). Meanwhile I seriously doubt that their snapcasters, tarns, sulfur falls, remands, and whatever else are going to suddenly stop seeing play and lose value. Twin was only like $5 now to begin with, edh players will happily buy all your twins. Meanwhile you have 10 slots opened up on a u/r tempo deck. Someone might have to get creative but it'll be fine. Amulet still basically exists too, just without bullshit turn1/2 kills. Play explore and extra Azusa instead of bloom. It can do close to the same thing but a little slower, and that's not a bad thing.
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mcmagic posted:Hot Take: Banning 2 unfair decks will make unfair decks even better in Modern. Counterpoint: you don't introduce snakes to solve a rat problem (if this weren't a metaphor you should just wait for the rats to rotate out)
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I wasn't back into magic yet when RTR block was standard; but from what I've heard, is Voice basically back up to it's $50 price tag from when it was standard?
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Speaking as someone who doesn't play an awful lot of modern I'm happy to see twin gone purely because I find it boring as gently caress to watch. To be honest though not really that many people played it, or Bloom titan, at my LGS anyway.
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Fingers McLongDong posted:
Yea or maybe it morphs a little bit with more utility lands or finds other way to cheat prime time. I think there will still be a prime time deck with amulet somehow. Really depends on what else rises.
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Wasn't Twin a boring A+B combo deck from standard before it got banned
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InterrupterJones posted:I wasn't back into magic yet when RTR block was standard; but from what I've heard, is Voice basically back up to it's $50 price tag from when it was standard? That seems to happen when it's the only card worth mentioning in a set.
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If Legacy bans ever come down on the basis of "your deck is boring" there will be riots But setting that precedent in Modern is dumb enough.
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C-Euro posted:Also has anyone checked on Orange Fluffy Sheep yet? *Stares at hands* I was joking. Every time I said it I was joking. I never once thought they'd actually do it.
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https://twitter.com/Meowzalot_/status/688226222900301824
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I'm with the people who day that Wizards should actually un-ban stuff as well, instead of just stifling any deck that gets too popular. Has Wizards actually been burned by anything they've banned and then later un-banned in any format? Wild Nactl hasn't been oppressive in Modern since coming back and I haven't heard a peep from GGT since it got brought back. Also even though Tron looks like #1 now I'd be wary of buying into it right away, it's likely next on the chopping block if it puts up good numbers in the immediate future and it's getting a bunch of sweet cards in OGW. If they happens I just hope they figure out how knock it down a pig without taking the easy route and banning the Urza lands but I don't trust them to be that intelligent about it. kizudarake posted:I think they should print spreading seas in red so goblins can take their rightful first place at the top. Also this.
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Nice, too bad he doesn't pee on them too. And yeah there's already blood moon but why isn't there a red or green version of spreading seas? Green's overgrowth would fit too. (lol color pie/theme argument, but it's a good game mechanic)
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