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I love my blackjacks so loving much
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 01:40 |
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Hey I started this up just a little bit ago and am loving it I just finished kitting out my third mech and am ready to start building towards a 4th. The thing is all of my mechs so far have been brawlers. I've played around with LRMs in trial mech and just don't enjoy playing with them. Does anyone have some build recommendations for medium/long or long range mechs with no LRMs?
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 02:32 |
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Your way works too posted:Hey I started this up just a little bit ago and am loving it I just finished kitting out my third mech and am ready to start building towards a 4th. The thing is all of my mechs so far have been brawlers. I've played around with LRMs in trial mech and just don't enjoy playing with them. Does anyone have some build recommendations for medium/long or long range mechs with no LRMs? do you wanna do like lasers or gauss or shooty cannons
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 02:45 |
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a light mech with a big as gently caress engine and one or more ERLLs is pretty OK as a peek and poke distance shooter. Bonus if it has ECM. There are a number of raven builds that are basically this. Just don't be an idiot and stay in one place to "snipe'
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 02:47 |
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Yeah for long-range direct fire, you got a few choices. Large lasers, large pulse lasers and maybe even ER Large Lasers are pretty popular, good weapons. You have to manage your heat and keep them on target while they BZZZZZT. They don't do a lot of damage up front in a flash like cannons or PPCs. There's an ECM Raven build with LLS for light mechs, and I use a 3LL Centurion, and there's also Thunderbolt (heavy) and Stalker (assault) builds on the OP that are big piles of large lasers and heat sinks for melting mad rear end. AC/2s have a nice long range, but they are not great because they do so little damage that you basically have to stand up and dump dump dump for a long time, and they shoot farther than you need for most combat, so people prefer AC5s. There's a Jaegermech build on the OP that packs three Ultra AC5 and has nice high weapon mounts. It's not a cheap build but you can really gently caress people up with good shooting. PPC and ER PCC are in a weird spot right now. They used to rule. They do have good range and respectable damage, but they cause a lot of heat and cycle really slow, so they are awkward to slam home with the same conviction as cannon rounds. Plus, they only sit well on a small selection of mechs (mostly heavy ones).
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 02:48 |
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Pattonesque posted:do you wanna do like lasers or gauss or shooty cannons My brawlers have both lasers and shooty cannons. I don't really have a preference. I guess I would interested in something with a higher damage output per shot. Which I think would be a shootier cannony build? I'm not sure about that though which part of why I wanna ask for help. EDIT:Kind of interested in peeking and poking it's kinda how I play my light brawler already but at that range I think I would like to give up some mobility for damage. Sam Sanskrit fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Jan 17, 2016 |
# ? Jan 17, 2016 02:52 |
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Here, I copied these from the front: Gauss Jaegermech, huge range and damage per double-blap. Drawback: Gotta learn the weird way Gauss rifles work. No secondary guns to chase off lights. http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=67&l=46f6265ac30c46e00d6bac1856ff1c753371e09a UAC5 Jaegermech. Less range but spits 50 million shells in the blink of an eye. Couple of medium lasers for backup. http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=65&l=dae7ba0a895c4a8789c6127024ce2c91ec147693
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 02:56 |
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Tujague posted:Here, I copied these from the front: These look great. They have the added bonus that they seems drastically different from anything I have yet built. Building a diverse stable has been one of my favorite parts of this game. It's probably time for me to figure out Gauss I think.
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 03:02 |
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Your way works too posted:These look great. They have the added bonus that they seems drastically different from anything I have yet built. Building a diverse stable has been one of my favorite parts of this game. It's probably time for me to figure out Gauss I think. A comedy jaeger DD build that is still ridiculously fun is 2x LBX10 4 MG and 2ML. It's not strong until the end of the match, but it's basically heat neutral so you just survive for a few minutes then head towards an assault with all your buttons pushed down shouting METALSTORMMMM and watch them melt.
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 03:10 |
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sebmojo posted:A comedy jaeger DD build that is still ridiculously fun is 2x LBX10 4 MG and 2ML. It's not strong until the end of the match, but it's basically heat neutral so you just survive for a few minutes then head towards an assault with all your buttons pushed down shouting METALSTORMMMM and watch them melt. Sold!
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 03:13 |
What engines are you guys running in the Oxide? I can only fit 4 tons of ammo with 4xSRM-4 and an XL295, and I run out nearly every match. EDIT: Right now for a mere $10M (before upgrades), I can get two more Blackjacks AND 3 Spiders! Because what I totally need is more IS Lights and Mediums. Devorum fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Jan 17, 2016 |
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 03:27 |
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Do mech bays ever go on sale, and if so how often? Mine are full up.
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 03:39 |
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I don't think so. You can get a bunch by doing CW though.
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 03:40 |
Supraluminal posted:Do mech bays ever go on sale, and if so how often? Mine are full up. They were half off a couple of weeks ago. I'd say they go on sale 2-3 times a year, at most. Pooncha posted:With an XL295, 1 head armor and 3 armor in the arms lets you load another ton of missiles. I figured I'd have to shave armor off. I hate doing that with lights. Oh well...I'm tired of dying simply because I run dry, so if I've gotta do it...I've gotta do it. Devorum fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Jan 17, 2016 |
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 03:46 |
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Devorum posted:What engines are you guys running in the Oxide? I can only fit 4 tons of ammo with 4xSRM-4 and an XL295, and I run out nearly every match. With an XL295, 1 head armor and 3 armor in the arms lets you load another ton of missiles. E: Like this. Pooncha fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Jan 17, 2016 |
# ? Jan 17, 2016 03:50 |
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You're really counting on not getting hit, huh?
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 04:04 |
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Any mech at 100% can chump a few kills if they hide the whole match. why not just build a mech that can contribute all the time by leaving lrms, lbxs, and mgs off your mechs
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 04:17 |
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A.o.D. posted:You're really counting on not getting hit, huh? Jenners are more likely to lose anything else before the arms, so vv
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 04:32 |
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What has changed since the OP was written and now is that SRMs were significantly buffed. If you enjoy brawling try something with SRMs, they are very good.
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 04:41 |
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Willfrey posted:Any mech at 100% can chump a few kills if they hide the whole match. why not just build a mech that can contribute all the time by leaving lrms, lbxs, and mgs off your mechs Depends. Do you like winning or going blam blam blam. Lotta people confuse fun builds with good builds. But hey, if you're playing this game and having lots of fun more power to you. not you personally, just anyone in general. Games are fun. Blam blam blam.
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 04:42 |
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Pooncha posted:With an XL295, 1 head armor and 3 armor in the arms lets you load another ton of missiles. For the love of god, put your armor back on your arms in your oxide please. You literally triggered me and caused me to fall into an angry 'tism. edit: Still spiraling out of control. Might need to lay down. May actually start watching train vids on youtube. Currently reading about sailboats on wikipedia. Blackdog420 fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Jan 17, 2016 |
# ? Jan 17, 2016 05:26 |
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I'm sorry. maybe I also honestly saw that build in the wild (though with more arm armor and I don't know where the ammo was stashed). It was a funny game.
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 05:36 |
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I just had a stroke. Thanks.
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 05:41 |
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Urbanmech and pulse lasers has been a good time.
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 05:56 |
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Pooncha posted:I'm sorry. I just...
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 06:07 |
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Devorum posted:What engines are you guys running in the Oxide? I can only fit 4 tons of ammo with 4xSRM-4 and an XL295, and I run out nearly every match. I used to run the XL 280, which I think is the most common layout and definitely the only one to use when you're still working towards the speed tweak upgrade. I recently switched to the XL 265 after mastering the chassis. With speed tweak, it's about as fast as the unupgraded XL 280, and the extra ton of ammo has gone a long way towards keeping me useful in the fight- when I don't run facefirst into two Daishi turrets, anyway.
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 06:16 |
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Anyone have any ideas what to do with this event Cicada? Is there a fun layout for it or should I just sell it and take the free mechbay?
Sam Sanskrit fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Jan 17, 2016 |
# ? Jan 17, 2016 06:24 |
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The builds I make usually try to minimize costs whenever possible (and made by a scrubby Tier 3), so keep that in mind before taking them for gospel. I would echo Sard's suggestion that downgrading your engine to an XL280 might be the better bet if you prefer your arms padded, but XL engines are expensive, which was why I kept the 295 on there since you already had one to begin with.
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 06:24 |
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Blackdog420 posted:For the love of god, put your armor back on your arms in your oxide please. Yo read about rotor ships and start spergin hard as gently caress that physics do that.
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 06:27 |
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Your way works too posted:Anyone have any ideas what to do with this event Cicada? Is there a fun layout for it or should I just sell it and take the free mechbay? you can try dropping the engine to a 330 and keeping everything else as is, otherwise there isn't much else you can do with it it's a pretty good mech if you play it to its strengths
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 06:30 |
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teepo posted:you can try dropping the engine to a 330 and keeping everything else as is, otherwise there isn't much else you can do with it I'll probably sell it then. I have to many mechs that already play in the medium laser field. I'll take it out a couple of time to make sure I don't like it more then my medium lasery Hunchback before I do anything hasty though.
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 06:34 |
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It's a variant you can't get without paying real money, so you should probably lean towards keeping it.
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 06:53 |
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Anticheese posted:It's a variant you can't get without paying real money, so you should probably lean towards keeping it. Well it turns out it's super fun to drive so it gets to live.
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 06:56 |
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Your way works too posted:I'll probably sell it then. I have to many mechs that already play in the medium laser field. I'll take it out a couple of time to make sure I don't like it more then my medium lasery Hunchback before I do anything hasty though. The mech is only worth 500k... but the engine, that could get you some cash if you need it for something else.
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 06:56 |
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the xl340 is an incredibly useful engine
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 07:17 |
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servers making GBS threads themselves tonight, apparently the most matches ever played in a day was yesterday people must be really hungry for those colors
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 07:17 |
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Your way works too posted:Anyone have any ideas what to do with this event Cicada? Is there a fun layout for it or should I just sell it and take the free mechbay? 6 spl, i think with an XL 320 and loads of heatsinks. It's basically a chunkier Jenner.
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 07:19 |
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For gently caress sake do NOT zero out your cockpit armor, take it down to 8 or 10 maybe, I don't remember the specific numbers and if someone can correct me please do, but any lower and you can get straight up one-shotted if you are unlucky and happen to be on the receiving end of an air/artillery strike. Also oh my god Quickdraws are in the same scaling pass as the Catapult and Nova? Yesssss.
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 07:21 |
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I'm a little sad that my hipster robots like the Blackjack and Quickdraw are so mainstream now. I wonder if they QKD will get to keep their quirks after getting shrunk.
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 07:24 |
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novaSphere posted:I'm a little sad that my hipster robots like the Blackjack and Quickdraw are so mainstream now. I wonder if they QKD will get to keep their quirks after getting shrunk. The Blackjack is the loving Lemmy of mechs, It was always good and so was Hawkwind, you gently caress. But yeah the QKD was good because of quirks and didn't scale in competition because of its awful model/scale/hitboxes. It will be interesting to see how that changes if it ends up only slightly larger than a Griffon or Wolverine (which is where it should be.).
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# ? Jan 17, 2016 07:29 |