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Cruel and Unusual posted:Regarding Vietnam, do not underestimate their fear and hatred of China. The American War is nothing compared to the centuries of conflict with the northern neighbor. Yeah, there's a reason why they're a main proponent of the TPP.
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I'm pretty sure the point of the Vietnam/Cuba comparison is to point out the inconsistency on our end, though. Like, they're both nations of brown communists with which America has a history of armed conflict with, obviously one on a larger scale than the other. Although, as someone born in a world where the ever-present threat of nuclear annihilation is something we all try not to think about as much as possible, I guess it's pretty difficult to quantify the effect that living through the Cuban Missile Crisis and several decades of 'what to do in the instant between your realization that you're about to die and the blast wave's inevitable arrival' instructional videos might have on a society. Really, now that I think about it, there has to be an enormous segment of the American population in whose minds Cuba is a much more serious enemy than Vietnam ever was just because of its proximity. This loving country, man. This loving country.
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Scruff McGruff posted:What really sucks is that the movie isn't really that bad in a political sense, it's terrible in a cinematic sense. Bay threw so many tired old tropes and Transformers style slow-mo super action shots into the film it's ridiculous and a great example of just bad film making. But any criticism of the film is just going to be met with "LOL COULDN'T HANDLE HOW AWESOME OUR TRUE AMERICAN HEROES ARE, YOU LIBERAL COMMIE HILLARY LOVER?" I dunno isn't he a satirist?
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Arglebargle III posted:I dunno isn't he a satirist? You're probably thinking of Verhoeven and Starship Troopers; so far as I'm aware, Michael Bay plays his films entirely straight. The tits and explosions represent nothing more than explosions and tits.
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LonsomeSon posted:Really, now that I think about it, there has to be an enormous segment of the American population in whose minds Cuba is a much more serious enemy than Vietnam ever was just because of its proximity. I mean, they were, unless there were missiles in Vietnam that could hit the US. They're not a more serious enemy now, but they were definitely a much more credible threat than Vietnam ever was.
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I've taken it upon myself to make some lovely memes for liberals.      My apologies to good taste.
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Let me give you the genuine thing: https://www.facebook.com/LeftAction/
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I unironically agree that of all the jobs I've had, from fast food to military to office to academia, fast food was the hardest and most taxing physically and mentally. I say taxing and not demanding because at least the military had the benefit of getting fit and feeling pride despite being more demanding.
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We really do have this bizarre thing where low-paying jobs are almost universally "harder" on you than higher paying ones. Almost any office job involves some amount of downtime where it is generally accepted that you can go and grab coffee or talk with a coworker for a few minutes, whereas minimum wage jobs have you working every single minute you are scheduled. That "now I'm gonna chill on Facebook till quitting time" sums it up perfectly. I've had days where I literally spent hours loving around online cause there wasn't anything to do and gotten paid for it. And yet our culture shits on the actual hard work jobs and demands that not only must they be lovely to do, but not pay a livable wage or benefits.
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"BUT I WORKED MY WAY UP TO MY WATCHING PORN DURING DOWNTIME POSITION" Is probably going to be the response you get from those.
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It's not a forward, but I have to wonder if this is the direct result from too much right-wing hatemongering. We dance around this idea when people like the Planned Parenthood shooter murder a bunch of folks. That poor little kid.
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 Is it bad that the worst detail of that article to me was that the family dog got hungry and fed off of them? Jesus loving Christ.
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VorpalBunny posted:It's not a forward, but I have to wonder if this is the direct result from too much right-wing hatemongering. Well obviously he was a radicalised muslim. It said 'Allahu Ackbar' right there!
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VorpalBunny posted:It's not a forward, but I have to wonder if this is the direct result from too much right-wing hatemongering. This is a sober reminder that gun control is a domestic violence issue. We yak on about mass shootings but the majority of gun murder victims are women in domestic violence incidents.
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And now, more toxic masculinity gun culture.    This should be obvious by now: EPORWs are begging for a violent confrontation. Because they imagine that they will get to feel manly, or like they have a meaningful life.  shoot obama avatar in the face And now, a lot of pictures of hoarding guns       Oh sure but when I say I'm going to use my powerball winnings to buy 2 of every Naruto action figure including the limited editions, they say I'm a manchild wasting my money   It's funny because guns aren't safe  Again, they ALL DIE.   The only moral nuclear strike is the one I want against "Islam"  why yes, you are violent.Victims of domestic violence will attest to this. The ones that aren't murdered that is.  haha  OOG GOOD GUY! YOU BAD GUY  Society for historical anachronism still going strong  Wake up, sheeple! ~ Paul Revere  Hammonds serving time for two fires: one they deliberately set to cover evidence of illegal mass hunting, and another they set knowing that government rangers were camping on the hill, endangering their lives. But not even the Hammonds want to join you on this hill sooooo  Sherriff Joe   sedition nation  From what, violent assholes armed to the teeth running around cosplaying in the woods?  Yes police are experts in committing violent crime   Speaking of which  Piranha skull fish thing?  Jesus, can we get that soldier a helmet first? Maybe get him out of a live fire zone and give him a job flipping burgers at a living wage?  WMDs were there all along! They just moved 400 miles to a totally different country so they could be used ten years later! Anyone got any ideas what those giant concrete things are?  American soldiers fail? That's unpossible!   Only American soldiers are allowed to be aggressive and hostile. Not Iranians defending their territory. This is an interesting situation because, as another goon said "I've waited for breakfast longer than those soldiers were held by Iran." But like Mr. Cruz says, no American soldier can ever be seen on his knees because that would mean they are not perfect avatars of masculine power asserting their will over everyone else.  Patriots  Misogyny with your violence  You can only shoot them into submission  Excellent idea! while you're praying, you're not spraying (bullets) In conclusion  I directly threaten to shoot people I don't like all the time, and express violent misogyny. Just deal with it, right up until you piss me off and I shoot you too. Because that's my right. Your only right is to attempt to shoot back.
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It's really amazing how gun owners are so loving paranoid "let's make it harder for criminals to buy guns" is considered going too far. Like, if you have a clean history you are unaffected. It's what they WANT, keeping them away from criminals. But Obama bad man. Never compromise.
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darthbob88 posted:You're probably thinking of Verhoeven and Starship Troopers; so far as I'm aware, Michael Bay plays his films entirely straight. The tits and explosions represent nothing more than explosions and tits. Pain & Gain is definitely satire. Whether it is good satire is up for debate, of course.
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Defenestration posted:This is a sober reminder that gun control is a domestic violence issue. We yak on about mass shootings but the majority of gun murder victims are women in domestic violence incidents. I'm sure I'll get probated for wrongthink, but I want to ask for a citation. I've got FBI data open in these other tabs and I'm not seeing this.  Of the 12,253 murder victims in 2013 for which supplemental data were received, most (77.7 percent) were male.  Of the female murder victims for whom the relationships to their offenders were known, 36.6 percent were murdered by their husbands or boyfriends. I haven't combed fully through the datasets, but it doesn't seem likely that an unknown percent of 36.6 percent of 2,707 is going to be larger than 69 percent of 9,523. Samuel Clemens posted:Pain & Gain is definitely satire. Whether it is good satire is up for debate, of course. I was entertained.
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These are indicating the role of the victim, right? Like, the first column goes up if a man is killed by his wife.
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Subjunctive posted:These are indicating the role of the victim, right? Like, the first column goes up if a man is killed by his wife. According to the page: 1 Relationship is that of victim to offender. 2 The rape figures in this table are an aggregate total of the data submitted using both the revised and legacy Uniform Crime Reporting definitions. NOTE: The relationship categories of husband and wife include both common-law and ex-spouses. The categories of mother, father, sister, brother, son, and daughter include stepparents, stepchildren, and stepsiblings. The category of acquaintance includes homosexual relationships and the composite category of other known to victim. I meant to throw that link in to my first post, sorry. This is the starting point for the FBI's crime stats.
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Defenestration posted:
I think this situation brought out an interesting truth about American exceptionalism. It's not just a belief that America is special and unique, it's a very specific form of solipsism. Something something MURICA WORLD POLICE HOOAH, the rules don't apply to us because we're MURICA. Other countries are just NPCs in America's world, so when a country that they basically equate to a Skyrim shopkeeper develops "sentience" and does something to "beat" MURICA, they lose their minds because it doesn't make sense to their world view.
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I never understood the iconography. Can there possible be a worse symbol for "responsible gun owner" than a skull? Who's skull is it supposed to be? The skulls of people with different opinions? "Don't tread on me or this is you"?
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I think the skull is symbolic of "man how fuckin badass is this??"
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LeJackal posted:The category of acquaintance includes homosexual relationships That's dumb.
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Zephyrine posted:I never understood the iconography. Can there possible be a worse symbol for "responsible gun owner" than a skull? Who's skull is it supposed to be? The skulls of people with different opinions? "Don't tread on me or this is you"? Khorne does not care; all blood is blood. All skulls are skulls. Mine is as good as yours. Skulls for the skull throne. Blood for the blood god. 
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Defenestration posted:
They get so close to the right answer, only to miss it completely. 
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I can't find that comic anywhere where dome dude is blaming MLK Jr. for riot damages. Can someone please post it so I can shut a loud mouth up?
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"Hillary is spewing lies for minority votes. While she banished Bill's biracial son. Don't tell us how to raise/educate etc. our children. This woman is EVIL." http://gopthedailydose.com/2016/01/17/hillary-clinton-had-bills-mixed-race-son-banished/ From a Trump supporter. I didn't watch the embedded video, once I saw it was from Infowars I shut it off.
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Yeah I figured the True Patriots™ would come out of the woodwork with the latest EO. Funny thing is that I agree with this macro. The problem is that I don't agree with your other macros. You like "stockpiling" guns and ammo for the same reason people collect coins, rocks, star wars figures or what have you. Admit it. I'd respect you a lot more.
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WampaLord posted:We really do have this bizarre thing where low-paying jobs are almost universally "harder" on you than higher paying ones. Almost any office job involves some amount of downtime where it is generally accepted that you can go and grab coffee or talk with a coworker for a few minutes, whereas minimum wage jobs have you working every single minute you are scheduled. I fly a corporate/charter jet and so far have worked maybe 12-15 days a month, and I'm on salary. The days I do work are generally pretty long, I keep mentally calling 8-9 hour days "short day woo!" before I do the math. 12-13 hours is common. Thing is, of those 12 hours maybe five of them are spent actually flying an airplane (and the hardest part of that is staying awake while the autopilot does all the work), plus another hour and a half or so total prep time. Some days the flight time total is closer to two hours.The rest I'm chilling out in a recliner, taking a nap, dicking around on forums with the ipad, and having meals paid for by the company while I wait for the big wigs to do whatever it is they came to do. If the smiling burger flipper in that meme starts making $15/hour, I'm still going to make more money than him. So yeah motherfucker, McDonald's guy should get paid more. He works for a living.
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ultimateforce posted:I can't find that comic anywhere where dome dude is blaming MLK Jr. for riot damages. Can someone please post it so I can shut a loud mouth up? http://www.thekingcenter.org/archive/document/adverse-note-mlk-political-cartoon
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Difference is, I'm fairly confident the government is never going to use its arsenal of nukes, while You, O Gun Fondler, have spent a great deal of time yearning for a chance to murder everybody who disagrees with you.
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If they're never going to use them, why do they need them in the first place? Other than to satisfy the ramblings of early game theorists with likely personality disorders?
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Zephyrine posted:I never understood the iconography. Can there possible be a worse symbol for "responsible gun owner" than a skull? Who's skull is it supposed to be? The skulls of people with different opinions? "Don't tread on me or this is you"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU
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Guavanaut posted:If they're never going to use them, why do they need them in the first place? Other than to satisfy the ramblings of early game theorists with likely personality disorders? Agreed, ban all guns.  Needs to be posted every page nowadays it feels like.
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That clip is solid gold. And of course the comment section: Denial quote:A Nazi swastika faces right, and is tilted at a 90 degree angle. If it is not such, nine times out of ten its not a "Nazi" swastika. Not a nazi reference because it's blue instead of black.  ISIS quote:Somewhere in some desert... one ISIS nut to another: "Our flag is mainly black, we go around destroying ancient artifacts, we kill anyone who is even slightly less obsessed with our faith than we are, we're burying children alive, .... A-are we the baddies....?" Gamersgate quote:The movement being about harassment has been debunked with simple math so often it's not even funny (either that or it is the biggest failure of a movement in internet history, being quickly co-opted by people who care about ethics and pushing the harassers into a corner of being 3% of the movement at the most liberal estimate). Gamergate started 3 weeks after what you are referring to, but that too wasn't about harassment it was blow back from internet censorship.
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