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quadrophrenic posted:how does that work though? is there any precedent to Congress passing resolutions that say "oh this bit in the constitution should ACTUALLY say this"? Yes, almost all areas of the constitution have some congressional resolution saying "this phrase is interpreted to mean this in law". There could be a court challenge to it, but I'm almost certain the Supreme Court would defer to Congress on any reasonable interpretation of the natural born citizen issue.
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Quote of the day, “Because, if God forbid ISIS pays a visit to you, to our community, the last thing standing between them and our families may be the ability to protect ourselves with our guns. And there’s no way we’re going to take that away from the American people, not when I’m president.” ~ Marco Rubio
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quadrophrenic posted:how does that work though? is there any precedent to Congress passing resolutions that say "oh this bit in the constitution should ACTUALLY say this"? You would pass a law saying "the definition of Natural Born Citizen, as referenced in section blah, paragraph whatever, is 'whatever the definition is now'"
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Joementum posted:Yes, almost all areas of the constitution have some congressional resolution saying "this phrase is interpreted to mean this in law". There could be a court challenge to it, but I'm almost certain the Supreme Court would defer to Congress on any reasonable interpretation of the natural born citizen issue. So the Naturalization Act of 1790?
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fishmech posted:You would pass a law saying "the definition of Natural Born Citizen, as referenced in section blah, paragraph whatever, is 'whatever the definition is now'" well, no, you wouldn't need to pass a law and have it go through that loving endless committee process and tabling and untabling and that whole shebang You'd just pass a non-binding resolution, like Congress does routinely to rename post offices or recognize National Stamp Day or National OJ Week.
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DynamicSloth posted:So the Naturalization Act of 1790? Yup!
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Ted Cruz gets schooled on Fox News about "carpet bombing" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dridq1UuNsw quote:On Sunday, Fox News host Chris Wallace asked Cruz to respond to military experts who have insisted that “carpet bombing ISIS would never work.”
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Mr. Pumroy posted:he's advocating massive, ineffective bombing so that he can show people the shattered wasteland he produced and say see it's working It would dissuade individuals in the region from joining ISIL, and force ISIL to raise taxes upon their citizens in order to continue their operations. It would drive a wedge between the population and ISIL, while making it felt that ISIL was defeated when they are defeated. The Germans could turn to a stabbed-in-the-back myth after WW1 precisely because the Allies were too lenient upon Germany proper. After WW2, with the results of the firebombings of Dresden, of Berlin, of Hamburg and Köln so readily apparent, there was no denying that Germany was defeated, no ability to say that Germany could have continued to resisted American superiority if only they hadn't been stabbed in the back. How could they, when there was no back left unleathered in Germany?
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I'm pretty sure any conservative viewer watching that Ted Cruz segment will not walk away thinking "Man Ted Cruz sure got schooled."
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I applied to Jihadist U but couldn't afford the tuition. Its a shame, because JU has a world class lacrosse team
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Ted Cruz gets schooled on Fox News about "carpet bombing" Ted Cruz is human garbage. messagemode1 posted:I'm pretty sure any conservative viewer watching that Ted Cruz segment will not walk away thinking "Man Ted Cruz sure got schooled." You're half-right. Cruz sounds whiney and weak, but they love the idea of bombing everything and they think Chris Wallace is a LIBERAL GOTCHA JOURNALIST.
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'Herewith 'natural born citizen' shall be interpreted to mean any person born a citizen of the United States with the exception of Rafael Edward Cruz, specifically.'
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 "Hey guys, why isn't our military as big as it was in 1991? Did something happen that year that made conventional forces downsize?"
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William Bear posted:
"Hey guys, why aren't we able to firebomb ISIL? Has the AF forgotten how effective attacks on enemy populations centers are at reducing a hostile military's capacity to sustain combat operations by depriving them of the manpower and logistics necessary for force replenishment?"
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Peel posted:'Herewith 'natural born citizen' shall be interpreted to mean any person born a citizen of the United States with the exception of Rafael Edward Cruz, specifically.' The bill passes the house 435-0 and the senate 99-1
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fishmech posted:The bill passes the house 435-0 and the senate 99-1
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fishmech posted:The bill passes the house 435-0 and the senate 99-1 Lol if you think Rubio will show up to vote.
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fishmech posted:The bill passes the house 435-0 and the senate 99-1 98. Marco missed the vote. E: goddamnit
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fishmech posted:The bill passes the house 435-0 and the senate 99-1 It would pass 96-3-1, if Cruz wouldn't use the opportunity to grandstand in the world's most motivated and personal fillibuster. Senaters Sanders, Paul, and Rubio would either abstain or miss the vote.
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I popped by Freep, Cruz supporters, or as they are now known as CRUZBOTS are poo poo posting at a frightening pace, while Trumpkins are poo poo posting right back at them. If Cruz can't win the shitposter war on FreeRepublic I don't think he's going to win the nomination.
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quadrophrenic posted:Dumb question for people who know about constitutional law than me: what would be required to settle the Natural Born Citizen issue? Wouldn't it require a Constitutional amendment? The lawyer in Texas is making it sound like he wants to bring his lawsuit to the Supreme Court to settle the issue once and for all, but is it in the Supreme Court's purview to review vague Constitutional language*, and what exactly could they do to that effect? They could basically define what 'natural born citizen' means in an opinion, probably based on the naturalization act. Jealous Cow fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Jan 17, 2016 |
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My Imaginary GF posted:It would dissuade individuals in the region from joining ISIL, Or the apocalyptic imagery feeds and the imprecise attacks feed their narrative of a cataclysmic battle between Muslims and the other, driving recruitment up.
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Top Bunk Wanker posted:Yeah man, Trump isn't even really that rich tho if you think about it really hard. It's actually incredibly easy to start out with a 1 million dollar loan and some connections and then be worth 10 billion dollars. You should definitely hammer on this as your anti-Trump argument tactic with friends and family and on the internet. he inherited 100,000,000 dollars
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Top City Homo posted:he inherited 100,000,000 dollars and a whole bunch of other assets
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William Bear posted:
No? Maybe 2 years prior
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Jesus Christ President Trump can't take office soon enough. Trying to relax and watch some all AMERICAN football and there are "technical difficulties" with either FOX or DIrecTV and the drat thing is in espanol. THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN IN A TRUMP ADMINISTRATION We shouldn't even need spanish language broadcasts in AMERICA. Want to immigrate here and live here? OK - LEARN THE LANGUAGE. AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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I'm glad you finally admitted your support for Trump is petty racism
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On the plus size neither of these spanish speaking gentlemen is Joe Buck. BUT STILL THIS IS AMERICA
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blue squares posted:No? Maybe 2 years prior The Soviet Union dissolved completely in December 1991, even though some Eastern Bloc countries had already tossed out Soviet-backed governments in 1989 and 1990 (and a few Soviet constituent republics were de facto independent by 1990).
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Boosted_C5 posted:Jesus Christ President Trump can't take office soon enough. ᎤᏍᎦᏃᎵ ᎯᏬᏂᎯ ("please speak more slowly" in Cherokee)
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Boosted_C5 posted:On the plus size neither of these spanish speaking gentlemen is Joe Buck. I will vote for whoever can promise me that none of the gentlemen on TV are Joe Buck
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one of the white supremacists supporting trump brought up how insulting it was that good americans have to press 1 for english in the interviews he was doing after his white nationalist PAC started spending its money trying to get trump elected perhaps it's not coincidental that white supremacists and trump supporters have identical concerns
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, “Because, if God forbid ISIS pays a visit to you, to our community, the last thing standing between them and our families may be the ability to protect ourselves with our guns. And there’s no way we’re going to take that away from the American people, not when I’m president.” ~ Marco Rubio It is absolutely inexplicable that Marco is going to lose the primary. It's a perfect mix of ineptitude, laziness, miscalculation, everything. He can't even pander properly. The entire rest of the field is completely unelectable and I still can't find a viable path forward for him after he loses IA, NH, and SC.
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R.A. Dickey posted:It is absolutely inexplicable that Marco is going to lose the primary. It's a perfect mix of ineptitude, laziness, miscalculation, everything. He can't even pander properly. The entire rest of the field is completely unelectable and I still can't find a viable path forward for him after he loses IA, NH, and SC. Inanimate Carbon Rod 2016
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R.A. Dickey posted:It is absolutely inexplicable that Marco is going to lose the primary. It's a perfect mix of ineptitude, laziness, miscalculation, everything. He can't even pander properly. The entire rest of the field is completely unelectable and I still can't find a viable path forward for him after he loses IA, NH, and SC. Remember the old saying, "90% of life is just showing up" Rubio can't even do the bare minimum for a campaign
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