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Reco
Feb 26, 2011

enemy one body to the proximity Zan attack discard the power slap hit.
loving Garm always showing up to ruin all of my fun

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Leal
Oct 2, 2009
I stopped playing the 360 version shortly before Dark Arisen was released, are healer/buff mage pawns still valuable for BBI or does everyone just use items at that point? My medicant/nexus heal and buffbot made me a hell of a lot of rift crystals back then (assuming they actually fix pawn rewards)

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
loving :laffo: at the garbage nude texture on nexus. But, whatever it takes for these strange shut-in autists to get better at modding this game.

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.
Still waiting on a mod to add hordes of every enemy to the land.

Grand seism whatever spell. 100 goblins. Lets see this.

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...

Tae posted:

Are there other quests similar to Berne that give you a top tier weapon relatively early?

Mercedes's escort gives a pretty good shield, but those are the only two I know about.

unexplodable
Aug 13, 2003
Stupid question, but what's the keyboard/mouse control to cast a buff on yourself? I can't figure out how to target myself and not a party member with boon spells.

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 12 days!
If I switch vocations, I don't lose progress on my first vocation, right? I kinda want to get the carry more stuff perk the fighter gets for my assassin.

Kiggles
Dec 30, 2007

Infinity Gaia posted:

Mercedes's escort gives a pretty good shield, but those are the only two I know about.

It's not that good. The longsword you get from escort with Berne is exceptionally good.

A Real Happy Camper
Dec 11, 2007

These children have taught me how to believe.

Capn Beeb posted:

If I switch vocations, I don't lose progress on my first vocation, right? I kinda want to get the carry more stuff perk the fighter gets for my assassin.

when you switch everything carries over, gently caress around to your heart's content!

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...

Kiggles posted:

It's not that good. The longsword you get from escort with Berne is exceptionally good.

That's why I said pretty good and not anything better. It's still very strong if you get it at the first possible moment, and since she's going to the shadow fort anyways might as well get both good escort weapons, provided you set a portcrystal at the shadow fort.

ShadowMar
Mar 2, 2010

HERE IS A
GRAVEYARD
OF YOU!


yeah seriously, there are no downsides to switching vocations around whenever you feel like other than having to keep a ton of weapons up to par before you can get mega rich

unless you're a min-maxer of course but don't be one of them

Kiggles
Dec 30, 2007

Infinity Gaia posted:

That's why I said pretty good and not anything better. It's still very strong if you get it at the first possible moment, and since she's going to the shadow fort anyways might as well get both good escort weapons, provided you set a portcrystal at the shadow fort.

Actually, now that I look at it, it's up there with Gryphic Victory. I always wrote it off because most things before BBI that are especially weak to blunt aren't themselves very substantial. Definitely not bad, since block effectiveness is reliant on the shield. Yeah, if you're sticking with fighter, definitely worth the trouble.

Only other thing to note is the Mercedes has a little trouble surviving the trip. Ser Berne on the other hand is a freakin' machine. My first trip I escorted Berne, and then Mercedes. Took the same route, and figured the Chimera wasn't going to be an issue, because there were no troubles with Berne around. I was wrong. There were significant problems named Mercedes.

Sexual Aluminum
Jun 21, 2003

is made of candy
Soiled Meat
How do weapons from the DLC compare to UR Dragon stuff? I never actually played the DLC.

Turk
Mar 27, 2006

Kiggles posted:

Invite sent. My pawn and I just hit 40. Her bow is god loving awful, though, so don't expect too much. That and I hosed with her inclinations against my better judgement and she doesn't use her 'effect' bow skills as much. Mostly just Deathly Arrow. Still, she's been pretty good about stay back. I should have her bow replaced later today.

Been using her for a few hours now and have no complaints about her. Thanks for the friending. Anyone got any Mages or Sorcerers (in the 40's)? My Arisen and Pawn are melee types.

Elderbean
Jun 10, 2013


Tae posted:

Check your storage when you get to Gran Soren. You get an unlimited one.

Oh, thank you! I missed it the first time I went through somehow.

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

Early in the game, how can you change your Pawn's primary inclination to something useful without spending rift crystals? My Strider pawn is currently set on Scather, which isn't actually that bad especially against the big beasties, but I'd like to try and bump that down to #2 so the pawn uses the shortbow more often and runs into mobs and gets murdered a tad less. I'm guessing you need to do the thing that ties with that inclination, but I'm not sure how to go for something like Challenger or Mitigator without it also bumping up Scather.

gibbed
Apr 10, 2006

Tei posted:

I would play a "trickster" class more. Oil Grenades, traps, flash grenades, pocket sand, crossbow and knives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4htPIBCX88
Alchemist in Dragon's Dogma Online.

Capcom really needs to bring it to the west.

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

Sexual Aluminum posted:

How do weapons from the DLC compare to UR Dragon stuff? I never actually played the DLC.

The top-tier BBI weapons are better. But you need to purify lv.2/3 cursed weapons to get them so if you can kill the Ur-Dragon without much trouble it wouldn't hurt to do. Especially since there are some enemies on BBI that are very weak to holy.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Trapezium Dave posted:

Early in the game, how can you change your Pawn's primary inclination to something useful without spending rift crystals? My Strider pawn is currently set on Scather, which isn't actually that bad especially against the big beasties, but I'd like to try and bump that down to #2 so the pawn uses the shortbow more often and runs into mobs and gets murdered a tad less. I'm guessing you need to do the thing that ties with that inclination, but I'm not sure how to go for something like Challenger or Mitigator without it also bumping up Scather.

Buy a single inclination elixir (not that expensive) from the merchant and then just forge it for cheap to get extra ones.

Lukavi
Aug 23, 2006
Place your bets now
Is there a way or setting to turn down the glow from spells? Every time some wizard enchants my bow I cant see poo poo when trying to fire it.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
I had my skyrim moment when I used Helm Splitter on a downed Saurion, and he just teleported out of existence.

And somehow my pawn got his loot :psyduck:

Rohan Kishibe
Oct 29, 2011

Frankly, I don't like you
and I never have.

Kiggles posted:

Actually, now that I look at it, it's up there with Gryphic Victory. I always wrote it off because most things before BBI that are especially weak to blunt aren't themselves very substantial. Definitely not bad, since block effectiveness is reliant on the shield. Yeah, if you're sticking with fighter, definitely worth the trouble.

Only other thing to note is the Mercedes has a little trouble surviving the trip. Ser Berne on the other hand is a freakin' machine. My first trip I escorted Berne, and then Mercedes. Took the same route, and figured the Chimera wasn't going to be an issue, because there were no troubles with Berne around. I was wrong. There were significant problems named Mercedes.

Ser Berne is probably the last Arisen's pawn in a previous life. Dunno why he didn't kill the Dragon.

Sylphosaurus
Sep 6, 2007

gibbed posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4htPIBCX88
Alchemist in Dragon's Dogma Online.

Capcom really needs to bring it to the west.
Yeah, the Alchemist class and whatever the obvious Attack on Titan class is called looks awesome as hell.

I really hope that the warm welcome, and sales, that the PC version of Dragon's Dogma has recieved really gives us botha western release for DD Online and a proper sequel.

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

Andrast posted:

Buy a single inclination elixir (not that expensive) from the merchant and then just forge it for cheap to get extra ones.
That is what I am going to do if I can't figure out how to do it organically. Currently though I'm only level 10 and still taking my sweet time getting to Gran Soren, so those are out of my price range. I could head to Bitterblack Isle but I'm wanting to avoid that until post-game.

Until then I'll make it a priority to go after bandit archers first and see if that does anything.

Kiggles
Dec 30, 2007

Rohan Kishibe posted:

Ser Berne is probably the last Arisen's pawn in a previous life. Dunno why he didn't kill the Dragon.

Gotta train up the next Arisen. Role models and all that. :allears:

Turk posted:

Been using her for a few hours now and have no complaints about her. Thanks for the friending. Anyone got any Mages or Sorcerers (in the 40's)? My Arisen and Pawn are melee types.

Thanks for the feedback. Check the steam group and make a post. Might be able to find someone with a high level blue. 36 was the highest I think available on my friendlist, but I'm only connected with a few dozen in the group of 320. You'll probably get better luck posting an announcement and seeing if anyone send and invite.

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

Sylphosaurus posted:

Yeah, the Alchemist class and whatever the obvious Attack on Titan class is called looks awesome as hell.

I really hope that the warm welcome, and sales, that the PC version of Dragon's Dogma has recieved really gives us botha western release for DD Online and a proper sequel.

I think they might. It's kind of weird because a lot of the PC players are western RPG nerds and Dragon's Dogma is basically the D&D video game people have always wanted, maybe a bit simpler but still. Meanwhile playstation's main audience seems to be JRPG and anime fans, while the xbox has a lot of FPS lovers.

Nemesis Of Moles
Jul 25, 2007

Swapping over to Sorcerer from a maxed out Strider was a bit of a whiplash, but I'll deal with it till I get some of the super powerful spells. Shooting to be a MA but I want to touch on Assassin too at some point.

I played this for ages on the 360 but in the past 2 or 3 days I've kinda realized I didn't really appreciate the better parts of the game.

edit: has anyone taken Danny DeVito out for a spin yet? I think he's a pretty good Warrior, except maybe for the part where he loves climbing all over poo poo basically endlessly. I just grabbed GUTTS, a 9 foot tall Warrior man who is scary as poo poo but really great in a fight. Two warriors and two sorcerers make up a hell of a team.

Nemesis Of Moles fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Jan 17, 2016

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

I made it to Gran Soren, stuffed some poo poo in the bank, bought some armor and better daggers and upgraded them, got eaten by an ogre in the pawn shop cellar. I decided to do some quests instead and got a quest to escort a peddler somewhere to the northwest but I met an armored cyclops and some bandits on the way that I beat, but it left me somewhat wounded. Then I ran into another cyclops on a narrow mountain path which I decided to run past and met some bandits that killed me (I think the bandit there was part of the grimoire quest).

There's really no good indication of what areas I should be sticking to while I get to grips with the game and the quests don't indicate the difficulty level either. Should I just go around hunting goblins for a while? I'm level 12 and I can't put any damage at all onto the ogres so I had to run from another one in a mine west of Gran Soren.

Edit: I'd also like an invite to the steamgroup. http://steamcommunity.com/id/Demiurge/

Demiurge4 fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Jan 17, 2016

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
The crypt under the pawn guild is where you are "supposed" to go next, it's generally around your level except for the ogre. I have no idea why that ogre is there because you legitimately can't be expected to kill it at the level you'd be at when you're there to do the quest. The easiest way to be rid of it is to use gravity to your advantage and get it to charge right off the stairs and into the pit. I think that may be the intended method of ridding yourself of it, too.

Nemesis Of Moles
Jul 25, 2007

Demiurge4 posted:

I made it to Gran Soren, stuffed some poo poo in the bank, bought some armor and better daggers and upgraded them, got eaten by an ogre in the pawn shop cellar. I decided to do some quests instead and got a quest to escort a peddler somewhere to the northwest but I met an armored cyclops and some bandits on the way that I beat, but it left me somewhat wounded. Then I ran into another cyclops on a narrow mountain path which I decided to run past and met some bandits that killed me (I think the bandit there was part of the grimoire quest).

There's really no good indication of what areas I should be sticking to while I get to grips with the game and the quests don't indicate the difficulty level either. Should I just go around hunting goblins for a while? I'm level 12 and I can't put any damage at all onto the ogres so I had to run from another one in a mine west of Gran Soren.

This is a issue many people might run into, so a quick few tips for folks;

The strength of enemies doesn't really denote quest or level requirements for that area or areas beyond it
What I mean by this is there are places where crazy powerful bandits that can one shot you hang out, and you have to go through them to get to somewhere where wolves hang out.

Basically the best thing you can do is quests, cause they give shitloads of XP. Go do some in the first town, go to Bitterblack Isle and pick up all the quests there, then sprint through the dungeon for 20 minutes, you'll tick two quests off easily and get about 4-5 levels out the bag. This can give you enough survivability to start taking down cyclops pretty quickly.

Ogres are health sponges that mainly require you to get some fire damage on your weapon and get a bunch of hits in.

Rookersh
Aug 19, 2010
2 questions.

- If I hit level 200, I can still gain levels in vocations yes? It seems like vocation level = what skills I can buy, does it do anything else?

- The Fighter uses a Sword, and shares many Sword skills with the Assassin. If I buy Downthrust while I'm a Fighter, do I just have Downthrust if I switch to Assassin? Or do I need to rebuy Downthrust for the Assassin? Insert other vocation as needbe, as I realize other vocations also share weapons.

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

Thanks for the info, I'll head back to the pawn cellar and see if I can get past the ogre. Is there a reliable way to get weapon buffs from my mage pawns? Fire is really strong against undead and most enemies, but having it applied is kind of a crapshoot most of the time.

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

Everfall ogre is pretty easy if you've been doing sidequests so go do those

Geomancing
Jan 8, 2004

I am not an egghead. I am well-read.
*heading to Hillfigure Knoll, makes the quest the active one*

"I KNOW THE WAY, ARISEN! FOLLOW ME!" screams the rented pawn strider. He tears off across the landscape.

Too bad the first thing to follow him was the four snow harpies that tore him apart because he was half a mile ahead of the rest of us.

Huszsersvn
Nov 11, 2009

Nice world you've got here. Shame if anything were to happen to it.

There has to be a mod to increase the light radius of Pawns' lanterns.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Tae posted:

Are there other quests similar to Berne that give you a top tier weapon relatively early?

Is there something I have to do to get Berne's escort to show up? I'm in Stage 4 and haven't seen it, and I want that sword for my pawn.

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

lets hang out posted:

Everfall ogre is pretty easy if you've been doing sidequests so go do those

I've attempted him twice, and both times he immediately charged straight off the edge to his death.

kirbysuperstar posted:

Is there something I have to do to get Berne's escort to show up? I'm in Stage 4 and haven't seen it, and I want that sword for my pawn.

Give Ser Berne a couple of foreign knives to raise his affection a bit.

Trick Question
Apr 9, 2007


I've been playing this game for about 15 hours now, and I'm level 35, and for the past few hours the game has been feeling super easy and boring. Does it ever get better about that? Playing as a warrior, if it matters.

Neo_Crimson
Aug 15, 2011

"Is that your final dandy?"
edit: should have read the op better

Neo_Crimson fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Jan 18, 2016

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MadJackMcJack
Jun 10, 2009

Trick Question posted:

I've been playing this game for about 15 hours now, and I'm level 35, and for the past few hours the game has been feeling super easy and boring. Does it ever get better about that? Playing as a warrior, if it matters.

Hehe. Hehehehe. HheheheheAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

So to answer your question, yes. Yes it does.

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