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Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



comes along bort posted:

when's killer mike gonna show up in the spin room?

I really wanna vote for that dude, seriously.

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Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
ooh i just saw gk butterfield hugging hilldawg

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown
cucktodd '16

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



My Imaginary GF posted:

China doesn't proclaim its intent to kill all Jews in the mideast by unleashing a holocaust upon them once a week inbetween chants of 'death to America'

No it just kills tibetans with snipers that try to flee and imprisons the most people in the world per capita

Posturing is one thing, actually doing awful things is another

Iranians are pretty chill people and have been pushing their government to stop with that poo poo.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Theyre calling it The Bernie Sanders debate.

Wrap it up Hillailures

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together

Fun Shoe
I never knew Hillary loved Obama so much. :glomp:

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

TNO posted:

I'm down for a gay POTUS.

We had one, it was Buchanan.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Bad Caller posted:

No it just kills tibetans with snipers that try to flee and imprisons the most people in the world per capita

I thought the US out-imprisoned China per-capita?

Minsky
May 23, 2001

I think Bernie did poorly during the first half but woke up during the Wall Street parts. Basically the same performance as every other debate. I'd say that's bad for him, yet his poll numbers keep going up.

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

and cue the Hillary won news articles

SirKibbles
Feb 27, 2011

I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash. :10bux:

Puppy Galaxy posted:

Fortunately, by her own design, no one watched.

This is not fair to Hillary. DWS and her lame attempts to get Hillary's attention isn't Hillary's fault

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Bad Caller posted:

Real talk why besides the fact American media overblows how awful Iran is like it did with Cuba. (It's about as bad as China and Cuba politically speaking.)

china, cuba and iran are all really good

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Concerned Citizen posted:

FACT CHECK: O'Malley's campaign has spent 75% of its donations in the 4th quarter on Wing Tuesday at Buffalo Wild Wings.

FACT CHECK: We initially reported that O'Malley's campaign has spent 75% of its donations in the 4th quarter on Wing Tuesday at Buffalo Wild Wings. This was wrong. O'Malley's campaign has spent 75% of its donations in the 4th quarter on Wing Tuesday at the Des Moines Hooters.

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Not a Step posted:

I thought the US out-imprisoned China per-capita?

Secret prisons aren't recorded but the falun gong imprisoned easily beats it

not to mention how after the falun gong crackdown suddenly the organ donation numbers grew drastically

Minsky
May 23, 2001

Also Bernie nailed that raising taxes answer in my opinion. If Hillary tries to keep pressing that angle I think it's gonna backfire hard.

Puppy Galaxy
Aug 1, 2004

Minsky posted:

I think Bernie did poorly during the first half but woke up during the Wall Street parts. Basically the same performance as every other debate. I'd say that's bad for him, yet his poll numbers keep going up.

It's because no one watches these, thanks to Hill Dawg getting the DNC to bend to her will

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Bad Caller posted:

No it just kills tibetans with snipers that try to flee and imprisons the most people in the world per capita

Posturing is one thing, actually doing awful things is another

Iranians are pretty chill people and have been pushing their government to stop with that poo poo.

Hey Dick, the 90's called and they want their hamster and free tibet activism back

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
I thought Bernie did quite well to articulate how a Hillary Clinton White House would not change much on Wall Street enforcement.

But I thought he fell down on that question about the VT single payer plan. He should have been prepared for that. It was an opportunity to explain how his healthcare plan makes sense, even if it raises taxes, but he totally faceplanted on it.

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

Minsky posted:

Also Bernie nailed that raising taxes answer in my opinion. If Hillary tries to keep pressing that angle I think it's gonna backfire hard.

You can't Kill the Hill, she's gonna come out of this just fine.

Pythagoras a trois
Feb 19, 2004

I have a lot of points to make and I will make them later.

HiHo ChiRho posted:

and cue the Hillary won news articles

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

Not a Step posted:

I thought the US out-imprisoned China per-capita?

Officially it does. Which even if China's #s are false, really loving blows for the US. We imprison an absolutely ludicrous amount of people and have poo poo recidivism rates.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Homework Explainer posted:

china, cuba and iran are all really good

Why do you not live in one of them?

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
If anyone is feeling that their blood pressure is a little low, S(ipp)E Cupp is on CNN now on the debate panel.

Iowa Snow King
Jan 5, 2008
Holy crap how is Hillary in another competitive primary

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

Joementum posted:

I thought Bernie did quite well to articulate how a Hillary Clinton White House would not change much on Wall Street enforcement.

But I thought he fell down on that question about the VT single payer plan. He should have been prepared for that. It was an opportunity to explain how his healthcare plan makes sense, even if it raises taxes, but he totally faceplanted on it.

I agree that he was startlingly unprepared for that line of attack, especially considering his release of a plan tonight

A cool damn horse
Jan 25, 2009

Minsky posted:

I think Bernie did poorly during the first half but woke up during the Wall Street parts. Basically the same performance as every other debate. I'd say that's bad for him, yet his poll numbers keep going up.

I think the entire idea of what is and isn't effective during these debates and the campaigning process in general is really being thrown into question this election cycle. Does traditional political thought outside of "populism can work" really account for the success that both Sanders and Trump have found?

It doesn't seem to me like these debates really matter at all, unless something particularly extreme or soundbyte-worthy happens.

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



My Imaginary GF posted:

Hey Dick, the 90's called and they want their hamster and free tibet activism back

I don't give a poo poo if Tibet is free or not, I just want them to stop oppressing tibetans and shooting them for trying to leave the country

They're actually looking into investing in drones to hunt tibetans that are trying to flee to India

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
https://twitter.com/darth/status/688933411965157376

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

Joementum posted:

I thought Bernie did quite well to articulate how a Hillary Clinton White House would not change much on Wall Street enforcement.

But I thought he fell down on that question about the VT single payer plan. He should have been prepared for that. It was an opportunity to explain how his healthcare plan makes sense, even if it raises taxes, but he totally faceplanted on it.

I thought that the explanation of - Your private premiums will disappear and you'll make up for it by paying about half as much in taxes was a concise way of explaining it.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Bernie does better with focus groups since even though Clinton is a more polished debater, she can't sell real heart or authenticity on the issues like Bernie.

Her pitch is basically business as usual, while Bernie has really vision and gusty policy proposals.

Hillary is a basically a old tired out company that doesn't have vision, strategy or attract people enthusiastic about the core message.

She also has no brand image of her own, she talked so much about Obama did this and Obama did that.

What did you do Hillary, what decisions and policy are you accountable for in government besides the Libyan foreign policy train wreck?

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Joementum posted:

I thought Bernie did quite well to articulate how a Hillary Clinton White House would not change much on Wall Street enforcement.

But I thought he fell down on that question about the VT single payer plan. He should have been prepared for that. It was an opportunity to explain how his healthcare plan makes sense, even if it raises taxes, but he totally faceplanted on it.

Unfortunately for the sane folk in our party, Senator Sanders would rather lie to score than he would be honest about his indecent proposal.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Iowa Snow King posted:

Holy crap how is Hillary in another competitive primary

She's not.

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Not a Step posted:

Why do you not live in one of them?

I don't know why he called them good, they're not good they just aren't "as bad as saudi arabia"

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k

Iowa Snow King posted:

Holy crap how is Hillary in another competitive primary

It's almost like she isn't perfect.

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



Iowa Snow King posted:

Holy crap how is Hillary in another competitive primary

This isn't really competitive yet, I really do love Bernie and what he's doing for this primary let's not get carried away.

It's closer than expected, in that HRC hasn't already clinched it, but nationally she's up by 25 freaking points in the primary.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Tigntink posted:

I thought that the explanation of - Your private premiums will disappear and you'll make up for it by paying about half as much in taxes was a concise way of explaining it.

He might have said that at some point tonight, but definitely didn't when asked about the VT plan.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Hillary is the patron saint for people who choke in contested elections.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Man, it's fun watching this stuff after having watched a bunch of Veep and seeing the parallels. Axelrod is Ben, O'Malley is that weird young senator who no one takes seriously, there was even a "Journalist in Iran" moment.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

etalian posted:

Bernie does better with focus groups since even though Clinton is a more polished debater, she can't sell real heart or authenticity on the issues like Bernie.

Her pitch is basically business as usual, while Bernie has really vision and gusty policy proposals.

Hillary is a basically a old tired out company that doesn't have vision, strategy or attract people enthusiastic about the core message.

She also has no brand image of her own, she talked so much about Obama did this and Obama did that.

What did you do Hillary, what decisions and policy are you accountable for in government besides the Libyan foreign policy train wreck?

Clinton does have a vision for America and a strategy to achieve it.

Unfortunately, unlike Senator Sanders, candidate Clinton is restrained by these things called 'facts' and 'reality' when attempting to communicate her policy stances.

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Puppy Galaxy
Aug 1, 2004

Iowa Snow King posted:

Holy crap how is Hillary in another competitive primary

Seriously

First it's a black guy named Barack Hussein Obama, now it's a Jewish guy from Vermont who calls himself a socialist

I almost feel bad for her

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