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Flip Yr Wig posted:Anybody seen any right wing takes on Flint? Seems like they've been mostly dodging the issue. at first when it was a still local issue the talking point was "these poor people are being irresponsible homeowners and should have had their plumbing redone, the city is not to blame" but then after it turns out the water was actually to blame it generally shifted to "democratic urban government, can't get anything right"
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Wooh boy, whole lotta "MLK was great and right on about race and now let me tell you how great race relations were before that black son of a bitch Obama got elected and started making up racist bullshit to divide America and defy MLK's dream" today.
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LeeMajors posted:This just in: Bill O'Reilly doesn't understand tax brackets. He never has. He was bitching about that over a decade ago when people were criticizing the Bush tax cuts. It's something he brings up every now and again "bloo a bloo bloo I don't want to pay taxes that will still leave me with six figures!!!" That time he didn't threaten to move away but said he'd quit his job. "Well if the left gets its way taxes will be so high I'll be under the poverty level if I keep doing my job. I mean I'm not doing that. I'll quit first." Granted I've met relatively few people that actually understand tax brackets and it's for whatever reason hard to explain it. Granted I've also met people that just went "no they'll change it! They will! It will quit working like that!" It's like...ok, so let's say the brackets are at every $25,000 dollars and they start at 0% and go up by 10%. $25,000 of your income never gets taxed. That's basically "this is what you require to survive." Everything between $25,000 and $50,000 gets taxed at 10%. So if you make $30,000 that isn't 10% on overall it's 10% on $5,000 so that's $500 in taxes. If you make $50,000 it's $2,500. Woo. OK, so what about if you make $60,000? Well, that's $2,500 plus 20% of $10,000 which is $2,000. Grand total is $4,500 which is most certainly less than the 30% that people expect at that level. 30% would be $18,000 which $4,500 is significantly less than. In this case though all people would hear is that there is a tax rate of 90% somewhere and ZOMG!!! I'll be that wealthy some day and don't want to pay that!!! News flash: you loving won't. First off you won't be that wealthy and second off in the off chance you ever are you won't ever be paying 90% of your income total.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:He never has. He was bitching about that over a decade ago when people were criticizing the Bush tax cuts. It's something he brings up every now and again "bloo a bloo bloo I don't want to pay taxes that will still leave me with six figures!!!" I said it last year and I'll say it again. I wrote a check for ~$5900 last year to the IRS and I did it with a smile on my face, because for all we get our tax burden is nothing compared to any other western country. Rich people need to stop bitching and just pay up.
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Jan 18, 2016 19:01
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The New York Post decides to dabble in some good old fashioned McCarthyism.
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Mulva posted:I said it last year and I'll say it again. I wrote a check for ~$5900 last year to the IRS and I did it with a smile on my face, because for all we get our tax burden is nothing compared to any other western country. Rich people need to stop bitching and just pay up. Why pay up when hundreds of thousands of white, lower-class rednecks will fight your tax increases for you? Gotta protekt mah fortune after I hit that thar Pow-werbawl.
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Jan 18, 2016 19:22
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O'Reilly just wants attention. Please tweet falafels at him.
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Jan 18, 2016 19:40
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Where did the 90% tax rate meme come from?
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McGlockenshire posted:Where did the 90% tax rate meme come from? The Good Ol' Days of the 50's were high tax periods, and Sanders has mentioned this, so obviously he would reinstitute those rates unilaterally.
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McGlockenshire posted:Where did the 90% tax rate meme come from? Bernie probably fell into the rhetorical trap that D&D sometimes does when they wish that tax brackets were how they were in the 1950s. At that time, the top income tax rate was ~90%.
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The rejoinder to this is that there were many more tax loopholes back then so no one actually paid that tax rate. Whether that's true or not, I don't know.
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Besides, '90% top marginal rate' is uninterpretable without knowing at what level of income we are proposing that rate.
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FMguru posted:the premiere was held at the Dallas Cowboys stadium at drew 30,000 people Wow Michael Was the projector that shoots movies directly onto dolly partons tits while she boxes a series of muslims with a 101 fever already booked?
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Dr. Faustus posted:Why? There's no reason to differentiate between different types of un/under-employment. It's data. That's logical. To start with, my dad didn't invent U6 till the early 90s anyhow. That's a pretty good reason. (It was a computer/math system he invented, called ISIS of all things, and a side effect he published thinking it was interesting. Next month, the... hell, I forget, secretary of state? used it in a speech.)
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Nonsense posted:The Good Ol' Days of the 50's were high tax periods, and Sanders has mentioned this, so obviously he would reinstitute those rates unilaterally. Yea, and there were still rich people back then. Not as many Billionaires, though I think if you adjust for inflation there would have been. They love to spread the idea that if taxes are high, there's no incentive to work harder. Though There really isn't a reason to work harder because raises and promotions are practically non-existent so you're just working harder to increases profits and productivity so the top guys can benefit. At beast you get to keep your job, if you ask for more you get the wonderful "you're lucky to have a job! Do you know how many people would love to take your job???".
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Wooh boy, whole lotta "MLK was great and right on about race and now let me tell you how great race relations were before that black son of a bitch Obama got elected and started making up racist bullshit to divide America and defy MLK's dream" today. "When you speak the truth you're called a racist! Thanks Obama. "
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Armyman25 posted:The rejoinder to this is that there were many more tax loopholes back then so no one actually paid that tax rate. And to that I ask, "so we were only pretending to be socialist at the height of our war with communism"?
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Armyman25 posted:The rejoinder to this is that there were many more tax loopholes back then so no one actually paid that tax rate. The only people who actually pay their intended tax rates now are middle and working class people and yet there's plenty of bitching about our high corporate tax rates
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mr. mephistopheles posted:The only people who actually pay their intended tax rates now are middle and working class people and yet there's plenty of bitching about our high corporate tax rates As long as the middle and lower classes have a high tax burden, they will reflexively respond positively to "lower taxes now!" rhetoric, because people don't intuitively realize that other people's tax burden isn't like their own. It's deliberate.
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So Benghazi update. Film itself wasn't bad. Poor man's blackhawk down. There was a few shots directed at the US gov't but they seemed to be purposely made vague. They made the CIA director look like dick. so...uh...Vilerat  Yeah his scenes are tough to watch. They show him just casually playing a first person shooter and going "haha! got you fucker!" or something to that effect. Oddly enough they show him doing this while the militants were beginning to make a move on the gate. If I recall correct, wasn't he very much aware of them and posting here while this was going on? He's kind of portrayed being a bit mousey when the attacks go on which really didn't seem to come across as the type of guy he was around here. It was very sad and hard to watch regardless. Especially the scene where it's shown how he dies. Also bonus? Got to hear from my Dad how Obama apparently destroyed the middle class. "He got what he wanted! He wanted to be like Europe. Well we're like europe!" Also lower gas prices are apparently bad for this country because people are using the savings from them to pay back medical bills. None of this makes any sense. But I guess when your source of news is Fox News, WSJ and Rush? Welp.
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We now know what Sanders' proposed top marginal rate will be: 52% on income over $10 million. https://berniesanders.com/press-release/medicare-plan-detailed-sanders-improves-health-care-cuts-costs/
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IIRC Vilerat was playing Eve and his last known words were to goons.
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CNN is still going on about Iran capturing those sailors and letting them go without any real incident. They have a timeline of events, disappointed comments from John Kerry, information on the Navy starting an investigation, and wishy-washy comments from pentagon mouthpiece Barbara Starr saying that equipment from the boats might have gone missing. Good stuff. I hope they never shut up.
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Juffo-Wup posted:Besides, '90% top marginal rate' is uninterpretable without knowing at what level of income we are proposing that rate. Here are the numbers in nominal dollars: http://taxfoundation.org/sites/default/files/docs/fed_individual_rate_history_nominal.pdf The last year with ~90% upper bracket rates was 1963. Married filing jointly is $400,000 for the beginning of the top rate, which is roughly equivalent to about $3.1 million in 2015 dollars.
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:CNN is still going on about Iran capturing those sailors and letting them go without any real incident. They have a timeline of events, disappointed comments from John Kerry, information on the Navy starting an investigation, and wishy-washy comments from pentagon mouthpiece Barbara Starr saying that equipment from the boats might have gone missing.
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Pope Guilty posted:IIRC Vilerat was playing Eve and his last known words were to goons. Yep. I believe it was "poo poo, gunfire." I wonder if CCP was approached about having eve in the scene, or if Bay just dropped in "generic FPS." In my fondest hopes I think he did ask and they told him to go gently caress himself. OAquinas fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Jan 18, 2016 |
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I posted about this in the AUG thread, but Breibart is never going to not take an opportunity to talk about over sensitive liberals http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/01/18/diva-amy-schumer-cant-take-a-joke-humiliates-17-year-old-film-critic/ But suggest that right wing militants are an actual danger, and the right starts acting more triggered that the most left wing tumblritte. twistedmentat fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Jan 19, 2016 |
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I cannot believe that Gutfeld, a known poo poo spewer, would be stupid enough to make a comment about Democrats having nose blindness and pub toilets. Is he really that brainless?
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Could you give us the summary? I'd rather not have to read anything that Brettbort puts out.
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At Air Force base abroad, AFN showing Fox's Five. Oh god what exquisite pain. Is the black guy the show's Alan Combs-esque token liberal who gets shouted down because he's so very clearly anti-American what with his statements of fact? Some host was talking about how the Benghazi movie was so amazing because it was built to break apart Hillary's lies and my god, if smugness were geology the host would have been the white cliffs of dover. Radiant, effusive smugness. I don't know how people can watch that show and not just feel gross and slimy. The idea that people can agree with the presented opinions is terrifying.
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Pander posted:I don't know how people can watch that show and not just feel gross and slimy. You're supposed to watch it while showering.
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FuzzySkinner posted:Got to hear from my Dad how Obama apparently destroyed the middle class. "He got what he wanted! He wanted to be like Europe. Well we're like europe!" God loving Damnit. Middle class has been hosed over since the 80's (earliest that I can recall because I'm not that old). He just noticing it now? God drat he must have had a really awesome loving job with A1 job security/pension not to feel the pinch (especially in Cleveland). Hey, speaking of gas prices, where'd all those right wing obama gas price memes from a couple years ago? I guess it doesn't matter whether or not gas prices are low or high, if it happened under Obama, it's bad.
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Pander posted:I don't know how people can watch that show and not just feel gross and slimy. I feel unsettled when I'm watching it, like I'm losing brain cells.
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beatlegs posted:I feel unsettled when I'm watching it, like I'm losing brain cells. It must be like a brainslug for the elderly. A voice worms its way into the brain saying "shhhh, it's okay. You don't have to work hard anymore. I'll do the thinking and tell you how to feel. Heads up, most of the time it's gonna be "foaming at mouth angry".
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Rick_Hunter posted:Could you give us the summary? I'd rather not have to read anything that Brettbort puts out. Basically the kid had a meeting with Schumer and afterwards tweets this:  That got some backlash, and after a short while he apologised. Schumer then responded with this:  And to my knowledge that seems to have been pretty much it.
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It's not the stupidity or fact-freeness of The Five that I hate most, it's the desperately smug 'humor". Gutfeld especially likes to launch anti-culture "zingers", as if he's a modern day Noel Coward or something, followed by the most wretched self-satisfied smirk ever. It's so painfully awkward I have to turn away.
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Doctor Butts posted:
Oh, fear not! It's now "Liberal Logic" - $4 gas? - Obama had nothing to do with it. $1.60 a gallon? Thanks, Obama! Of course, I haven't heard that from anyone, but I sure did hear the opposite from conservatives.
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Perestroika posted:Basically the kid had a meeting with Schumer and afterwards tweets this: Yea, basically he did a dumb thing; saying a something horribly sexist and got called out for it. Oh he also said this  Yea, not really thinking his "funny tweets" through. Anyways, the worst thing is that because he got called out for it, people who have problems with not being allowed to be bigots without consequence are now coming to his defense. I doubt this kid wants Gamergaters and MRAs rushing to his defense.
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