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Trying to figure out if that constitutes an unironic recommendation for the self titled album. I definitely would not recommend starting with the first four albums. I third the notion of looking at a compilation like nothing has changed first and then figuring out what resonates with you. Other answer: heathen or scary monsters? I don't think I've met anyone in my life who hated either.
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hallo spacedog posted:Trying to figure out if that constitutes an unironic recommendation for the self titled album. I forgot the self titled one even existed. I meant starting with Space Oddity, and going through Ziggy.
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screaden posted:Best way is to buy a greatest hits compilation like "Nothing has changed" which covers all the way up to The Next Day (and technically Blackstar I guess). Make a note of the songs you really liked and then explore the albums they're from. For a complete first-timer I'd go a little more concise and start with Changesbowie, then expand chronologically from there.
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A whole load of interviews, documentaries, clips and songs available on BBC iPlayer. You can use this anywhere in the world: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03f4vrz
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With all his creativity, he could have been an italian.  Rome remembers him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPAmG09TTJU
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TheJoker138 posted:I forgot the self titled one even existed. I meant starting with Space Oddity, and going through Ziggy. While Hunky Dory and Ziggy are great albums, Space Oddity (or Man of Words/Man of Music or David Bowie) and The Man Who Sold the World aren't that great. He's still trying to find himself and he hasn't really figured out what he wants to do musically.
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Cemetry Gator posted:Space Oddity (or Man of Words/Man of Music or David Bowie) and The Man Who Sold the World aren't that great actually they are both great albums.
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Earwicker posted:actually they are both great albums. I didn't think they were bad, but I don't return to them very much. SO is the better of the two albums, but they just didn't stick too strongly in my mind. Hunky Dory is when he gets it all together. It's the right mix of all the different sides Bowie explored. I found much of MWSTW to be kind of forgettable. Nothing grabbed me beyond the title song.
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Cemetry Gator posted:I didn't think they were bad, but I don't return to them very much. SO is the better of the two albums, but they just didn't stick too strongly in my mind. Hunky Dory is when he gets it all together. It's the right mix of all the different sides Bowie explored. Width of a Circle and All The Madmen are amazing songs and if they didn't grab you it's because you're a Bad Person who doesn't deserve the finer things in life.
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I probably like Man Who Sold The World better than Hunky Dory. They both have a couple of clunkers and a bunch of amazing songs but I think I prefer MWSTW's low-fi psychedelic thing to Hunky Dory's polish. And I never, ever, ever need to hear Changes again. Classic rock radio ruins songs for me. I really like Quicksand and Bewlay Bros though. It's close. Both good records. BigFactory fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Jan 17, 2016 |
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The first three albums have enough good material on them that you could combine them into one hell of a compilation album, but it still wouldn't be as good as Hunky Dory. A Reality Tour is still where I tell my friends to start. Call me a heretic but that version of Under Pressure is my favourite. Dorsey absolutely nails the Mercury part.
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BigFactory posted:I probably like Man Who Sold The World better than Hunky Dory. They both have a couple of clunkers and a bunch of amazing songs but I think I prefer MWSTW's low-fi psychedelic thing to Hunky Dory's polish. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDRi30GNFMc
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Earwicker posted:Width of a Circle and All The Madmen are amazing songs and if they didn't grab you it's because you're a Bad Person who doesn't deserve the finer things in life. Look, that's not fair. You already know I'm a bad person! That's just confirmation bias. I do feel like his first album on Deram is unfairly maligned. It's not that bad. It's also not that good, and if it wasn't Bowie, that material wouldn't be available on CD outside of some tiny reissue label. The songs are twee, and you see little sparks, like the last track. If it had a bit more teeth, it'd be a better album. As it was, it was a little too cute.
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Picnic Princess posted:New video released! There's a theme going, I wonder if there's going to be a storyline in video form?  I'm kinda glad I didn't hear this until I had learned he was dead. It's having a fairly profound impact on me. I guess you could say spiritual.
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 young upstart musicians paying tribute are always nice to seehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgmhF0XV8uA
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John, I'm Only Dancing v72, 73, or 79? Going to have to go with The Spiders on this one: http://youtu.be/6VrqCBsbeuc Marv Hushman fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Jan 18, 2016 |
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:During my Bowie marathon this week, Bewlay Bros stood out as being one of his best songs of all. Hunky Dory is not my favorite album of his, but Bewlay Brothers is my favorite song and I don't see that changing.
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"Silly Boy Blue" is really loving good and out of place on that first album The true Bowie listening order goes from Space Oddity through Scary Monsters straight to Buddha of Suburbia, Outside, Heathen and Blackstar The "other Bowie" of Let's Dance, NLMD, Earthling, and Reality seems to always have been writing what he thought would appeal to contemporary live tour audiences, and suffered accordingly Hours and TND kind of inhabit a space of comfortable, pleasant mediocrity, where the best tracks are better than just about anything on Reality The best live tours were 1972-73 and 1995-96; every other one played out more like a rather glossy clockwork Greatest Hits revue Mermaid Autopsy fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Jan 18, 2016 |
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Mermaid Autopsy posted:"Silly Boy Blue" is really loving good and out of place on that first album I probably talk about the heathen tour too much but I don't think this is a cookie cutter setlist: Sunday Cactus Breaking Glass Fame Ashes to Ashes Slip Away China Girl 5:15 The Angels Have Gone Starman Absolute Beginners I've Been Waiting for You Afraid Fashion Be My Wife Alabama Song (Whisky Bar) Sound and Vision Rebel Rebel I'm Afraid of Americans Life on Mars? "Heroes" Heathen (The Rays) Encore: White Light/White Heat Let's Dance Ziggy Stardust
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Mermaid Autopsy posted:The "other Bowie" of Let's Dance, NLMD, Earthling, and Reality seems to always have been writing what he thought would appeal to contemporary live tour audiences, and suffered accordingly Let's Dance is pretty good overall. But after that was a huge album, he just tried to stay in that vein since that was his first huge album in America where it seemed like every single hit big. There's a lot of subversive stuff on that album, like Modern Love, which beneath the pop gloss is a pretty dark song. And some awesome sax work on the outro.
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SimonChris posted:Cygnet Committee is Bowie's best song This is the most correct post.
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I forget if I read it here or in a different thread, but whoever said Labyrinth doesn't hold up is full of poo poo. I had the privilege of seeing it in a nearly sold out theater tonight and it still feels magic. It's surreal and creepy and funny as hell and there's whimsical evil all over the place. I don't know what about that doesn't hold up because I loving loved it. Also the theater where I saw it played Bowie's music and a slideshow of pictures of him while everyone was filing into the theater before the movie started, so that was real special
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I'm in my second hour of watching the Bowie video marathon on Palladium. There are a lot of songs that I never knew got videos, like New Killer Star or Seven Years in Tibet. They're also dusting off some real obscure stuff like his song on the Falcon & The Snowman soundtrack. It's funny that his 80's videos are "so 80's it hurts" and yet his 90's videos are the same for that decade. I'm hoping they breakdown and play "Sad Little Fat Man" but that will never happen. :,-( It's me. I'm the sad little fat man.
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screaden posted:With a pug nosed face? yes.
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Was watching SNL earlier and Fred Armisen had a segment just to say how much Bowie's appearance in 1979 meant to him and they showed a short clip. He said go to the website to see "all David Bowie's SNL performances" so I was hoping that would include the Tin Machine ones from '91 but sadly no. Anyway here's a link to the 3 songs he did play: http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/david-bowie
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Mermaid Autopsy posted:The true Bowie listening order goes from Space Oddity through Scary Monsters straight to Buddha of Suburbia, Outside, Heathen and Blackstar a simpler way to say this is that what you call "true Bowie" is basically the albums produced by Visconti. (plus 1.Outside) and I agree for the most part, except I really love Let's Dance Earwicker fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Jan 18, 2016 |
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I've been working my way through an album or two a day, chronologically, since Tuesday, skipping only Pinups and the live albums. I feel like the only Bowie fan in the world who just doesn't love like 90% of Aladdin Sane. I look at it, and I listen to it, and there's a lot of great stuff going on. It just never clicks for me and parts of it feel tedious. Maybe part of it is that I grew up with the Rykodisc release of Scary Monsters, and that version of Panic In Detroit is so firmly lodged in my brain as superior that the slower, less frenetic Aladdin Sane version just feels sleepy and gets lost in an album of same-y riffs. It could also be that Aladdin Sane is one of the few albums I didn't own during ages 11-20.
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The vinyl artwork for Blackstar is amazing. It's all black, and it is a great pressing. Very quiet. It's very different.
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Cemetry Gator posted:The vinyl artwork for Blackstar is amazing. It's all black, and it is a great pressing. Very quiet. It's very different. I'm agonising whether to buy it or not. Also eyeing the upcoming releases of Ziggy Stardust and Aladdin Sane. I can't really justify dropping £60 on vinyl when my record player is one of those lovely £30 ones with cheap built in speakers and a needle that probably more closely resembles the torn edge of a tin can. Plus I already own all of the music, some of it several times over. Those LPs look so good though...
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^^ Get an original RCA pressing; they used better tapesCemetry Gator posted:Let's Dance is pretty good overall. But after that was a huge album, he just tried to stay in that vein since that was his first huge album in America where it seemed like every single hit big. He gets credit, I guess, for trying to work against the New Wave kids with their synthesizers by making an album completely with real instruments And the Serious Moonlight tour has, on paper, one of the best setlists while in practice it's Bowie mutilating his own songs by dumping Borneo horns over everything in a more cynical iteration of his David Live crooner persona As for the Heathen tour, well, maybe you had to be there
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According to something I saw in the paper the other day (don't have a quote, sorry) those 5 unreleased tracks were out-takes from Blackstar, so it seems likely they'll have been recorded. Maybe we'll get them as B-sides or something?
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ALFbrot posted:I've been working my way through an album or two a day, chronologically, since Tuesday, skipping only Pinups and the live albums. I think the problem is that it's a really straightforward record (outside of "Time"), and that makes it feel a bit tedious. It's probably my least favorite 70s Bowie record, though there are a few cuts on there I really like ("Cracked Actor," "Time"). Mainly whenever I think of that album, I think of "Lady Grinning Soul," one of his best vocal performances of all time. Love love love that track.
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davebo posted:Was watching SNL earlier and Fred Armisen had a segment just to say how much Bowie's appearance in 1979 meant to him and they showed a short clip. He said go to the website to see "all David Bowie's SNL performances" so I was hoping that would include the Tin Machine ones from '91 but sadly no. Anyway here's a link to the 3 songs he did play: http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/david-bowie For some reason I very clearly remember that Macaulay Culkin hosted that episode. Marv Hushman posted:John, I'm Only Dancing v72, 73, or 79? Agreed on this version. The walking bassline is excellent.
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davebo posted:Was watching SNL earlier and Fred Armisen had a segment just to say how much Bowie's appearance in 1979 meant to him and they showed a short clip. He said go to the website to see "all David Bowie's SNL performances" so I was hoping that would include the Tin Machine ones from '91 but sadly no. Anyway here's a link to the 3 songs he did play: http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/david-bowie Tin Machine on SNL from 1991: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xai74j_tin-machine-baby-universal_music
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I just had my local record store order in the Five Years set and Blackstar all on vinyl for me. I can't really afford it, but gently caress it.
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EugeneJ posted:Tin Machine on SNL from 1991: Yeah I thought about posting another link to that I found when I first mentioned the '91 snl appearance but I just didn't like that one nearly as much as If There Is Something, which I couldn't find anywhere. I recently digitized all the VHS tapes I didn't think I could find better copies of online and it looks like I passed over that one. But I did find the mp3's which I don't remember if I made from the vhs tape years ago so I could burn to a cd and listen in my car or if I downloaded them. Anyway I don't know if this is :files: or not but here's an mp3: http://www.davebo.com/sa/TinMachine-If.There.is.Something-Live.SNL.11-23-91.mp3
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Marv Hushman posted:John, I'm Only Dancing v72, 73, or 79? That's the version I grew up with, but I honestly really love them all. The 79 version came on while I was walking home today and I was loving the hell out of it.
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Mermaid Autopsy posted:As for the Heathen tour, well, maybe you had to be there So the early European leg of the 95 tour was pretty rad with lots of Lodger and Scary Monsters songs, but by the time it got to the States with NIN it's half songs from Outside in a short split bill. Which is a great concert if you include both bills, but not the best Bowie concert. Vs. Heathen tour where you had about 7 songs from that album, 2 of which are pretty interesting covers, and a much longer setlist in general, with room to throw in more hits, but it also had 3 songs from Low and other good covers. If you go through and look deeper, that second leg of the tour when he was playing summer sheds back in the states was lovely. The first leg and the European run was amazing, though. Look at this show from the Hammersmith Apollo: code:BigFactory fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Jan 19, 2016 |
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