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darthbob88: Oct 13, 2011; YOSPOS

Guavanaut posted:

If they're never going to use them, why do they need them in the first place? Other than to satisfy the ramblings of early game theorists with likely personality disorders?

Honestly not sure, so far as I can tell it's because we do still want that deterrence/response option, in case the other guy decides to use his nukes. So yes, game theorists. Although, after some research, the government is making an effort to make their nukes more useable and dangerous, so I should probably amend that to "the government is never going to annihilate all life on earth"

# ? Jan 17, 2016 21:20

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# ? May 25, 2024 06:23

Defenestration: Aug 10, 2006; "It wasn't my fault that my first unconscious thought turned out to be-"
"Jesus, kid, what?"
"That something smelled delicious!"; Grimey Drawer

RagnarokAngel posted:

It's really amazing how gun owners are so loving paranoid "let's make it harder for criminals to buy guns" is considered going too far.

Like, if you have a clean history you are unaffected. It's what they WANT, keeping them away from criminals. But Obama bad man. Never compromise.

I think some of them know that society wouldn't consider them fit to have guns. They don't want to give up their guns just because some doctor said they have brain damage, or some judge said they can't stalk their ex wife or threaten their neighbors anymore. Look at the California law intended to prevent another Elliot Rodger tragedy by allowing police to hold a "high risk individual"'s guns for 21 days without a warrant. Some gunnies don't want theirs taken before they can carry out their plans to shoot bitches who won't gently caress them like they're entitled to, some fear that the government will overreach and take away their guns even though THEY'RE not dangerous, some fear that the feral urban hordes will invade their house and they'll be unable to protect themselves/their families if they go without a gun for 21 days.

So yeah, I understand why gunnies want easy, unlimited access to guns for everyone. Because they don't want to be the guy who gets on the "no gun for you" watchlist for any reason. Their sense of self-worth is so tied up in their ability to shoot early and often that it doesn't matter how many criminals have guns, they are the good guy and they will be able to shoot to win.

# ? Jan 17, 2016 21:35

Twelve by Pies: May 4, 2012; Again a very likpatous story

quote:

The funny thing about this image is that given the huge number of pictures saying "COME AND TAKE THEM OBAMA I'M NEVER GIVING UP MY GUNS" they are admitting to being "bad guys." If outlawing guns means "good guys" won't have them and "bad guys" will, and they're screaming about how they'll never give up their guns, well then...

# ? Jan 17, 2016 22:20

Fulchrum: Apr 16, 2013; by R. Guyovich

Allow me to explain - bad guy means black person.

Nenonen posted:

Also the said free men are themselves inhuman slave owning pieces of biowaste who rightly deserve to die.

Its been a couple of years since I studied the society, but didn't Persia also have slavery?

# ? Jan 18, 2016 02:11

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Fulchrum posted:

Its been a couple of years since I studied the society, but didn't Persia also have slavery?

It's not really reasonable to compare the slavery of the classical world where a person could 'win' their way out with the slavery of the post-'enlightenment' West where gigantic leaps of logic allowed some races to be slave-holders of other races in generational perpetuity, but from what I understand Persian slavery was more lenient than Spartan slavery.

# ? Jan 18, 2016 02:19

VitalSigns: Sep 3, 2011

Defenestration posted:

I'm such a self-reliant free-thinker unlike all those sheeple. Watch as I dutifully follow after a manufacturer's marketing to completely wrap up my identity in the products I consume and derive my pride from consuming more and more and more of it than I could ever possibly need or use. Let my spend all my money on consumption and on gambling for the chance to win the lottery and consumeconsumeconsume

# ? Jan 18, 2016 02:48

Dr. Arbitrary: Mar 15, 2006; Bleak Gremlin

The reflective belt one is kinda funny.

# ? Jan 18, 2016 03:22

Arcteryx Anarchist: Sep 15, 2007; Fun Shoe

VitalSigns posted:

I'm such a self-reliant free-thinker unlike all those sheeple. Watch as I dutifully follow after a manufacturer's marketing to completely wrap up my identity in the products I consume and derive my pride from consuming more and more and more of it than I could ever possibly need or use. Let my spend all my money on consumption and on gambling for the chance to win the lottery and consumeconsumeconsume

The way ammunition is consumed in america at times (or maybe all the time, I haven't kept up) is hilarious. Its harder to get ammo in a more common caliber than a popular christmas toy; people just swoop in the second a store restocks and buy everything. All thats left is wildcats and expensive stuff.

Arcteryx Anarchist fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Jan 18, 2016

# ? Jan 18, 2016 03:28

Slantedfloors: Apr 29, 2008; Wait, What?

Guavanaut posted:

It's not really reasonable to compare the slavery of the classical world where a person could 'win' their way out with the slavery of the post-'enlightenment' West where gigantic leaps of logic allowed some races to be slave-holders of other races in generational perpetuity, but from what I understand Persian slavery was more lenient than Spartan slavery.

The Achaemenids practiced slavery (despite Cyrus the Great attempting to ban it), but it was more or less reserved for prisoners of war and rebels, and their word for "slave" was essentially interchangeable with "dependent". Debt slavery was defacto banned, and the overall number of slaves probably pretty small.

On the other hand, Sparta invaded their neighbours with the explicit goal of enslaving entire populations and reducing them to servitude forever. Every year, the Spartans ritually declared war on their slave population so they could be killed for any reason by anybody, and the one of the last steps of training in the Spartan academy before graduation was a night where the graduates had to sneak around murdering as many slaves as possible before being caught. This is in addition to weird random loyalty tests, like asking asking for slave volunteers to join the army in exchange for freedom, then murdering everyone who volunteered.

So yeah, one was significantly worse than the other. I guess the best you could say about the Spartans was that they were consistent, what with it being a North Korea-esque military state with secret police, and who changed alliances and broke their oaths at the drop of a hat. Like, there's a reason that the rest of Greece liked Sparta as much as they loved the clap.

Slantedfloors fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Jan 18, 2016

# ? Jan 18, 2016 03:29

Defenestration: Aug 10, 2006; "It wasn't my fault that my first unconscious thought turned out to be-"
"Jesus, kid, what?"
"That something smelled delicious!"; Grimey Drawer

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

The reflective belt one is kinda funny.

Agreed, especially the way the camo blends with the suburban shitbird carpet

Slantedfloors posted:

The Achaemenids practiced slavery (despite Cyrus the Great attempting to ban it), but it was more or less reserved for prisoners of war and rebels, and their word for "slave" was essentially interchangeable with "dependent". Debt slavery was defacto banned, and the overall number of slaves probably pretty small.

On the other hand, Sparta invaded their neighbours with the explicit goal of enslaving entire populations and reducing them to servitude forever. Every year, the Spartans ritually declared war on their slave population so they could be killed for any reason by anybody, and the one of the last steps of training in the Spartan academy before graduation was a night where the graduates had to sneak around murdering as many slaves as possible before being caught. This is in addition to weird random loyalty tests, like asking asking for slave volunteers to join the army in exchange for freedom, then murdering everyone who volunteered.

So yeah, one was significantly worse than the other. I guess the best you could say about the Spartans was that they were consistent, what with it being a North Korea-esque military state with secret police, and who changed alliances and broke their oaths at the drop of a hat. Like, there's a reason that the rest of Greece liked Sparta as much as they loved the clap.

well drat

# ? Jan 18, 2016 03:56

Slantedfloors: Apr 29, 2008; Wait, What?

Defenestration posted:

well drat

If it makes you feel better the Spartan caste system was so restrictive, and the number of actual citizens so low, that they literally couldn't exist without slave (Helot) labour. Once the Thebans liberated the region of Messenia (where most of the Spartan Helots were from), Sparta collapsed and never recovered. Their only impact after the collapse was repeatedly souring several Anti-Macedonian alliances. Like, they showed up and said "Hey, we'd like to join up with you and fight the Macedonians" and everyone else went home rather than work with them.

By the time of the Roman Republic Sparta was essentially the equivalent of Colonial Williamsburg, and really only existed so obnoxious Roman tourists could whip peanuts at them.

Slantedfloors fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Jan 18, 2016

# ? Jan 18, 2016 05:00

pillsburysoldier: Feb 11, 2008; Yo, peep that shit

Defenestration posted:

American soldiers fail? That's unpossible!

Only American soldiers are allowed to be aggressive and hostile. Not Iranians defending their territory.
This is an interesting situation because, as another goon said "I've waited for breakfast longer than those soldiers were held by Iran." But like Mr. Cruz says, no American soldier can ever be seen on his knees because that would mean they are not perfect avatars of masculine power asserting their will over everyone else.

The correct response to any Iran-capturing-US-Sailors meme is Thank God Israel didn't find them first

# ? Jan 18, 2016 06:18

Defenestration: Aug 10, 2006; "It wasn't my fault that my first unconscious thought turned out to be-"
"Jesus, kid, what?"
"That something smelled delicious!"; Grimey Drawer

Happy MLK day!

suuuuuuuure

How can this black woman be in charge of a major office responsible for white house events? They must be personal assistants, since women don't manage things.

Now why would Michelle Obama say that we should stand up against racism in our families, and why would you be against that, EPORW?

Nuke islam

Refugees

oh no not a mall!

Muslims stop praying to do normal everyday thing: their religion is a sham
(From last week, Muslims want space and time to pray while they're on the job, get fired en masse? Good for the foreman, not giving in to zealots!)

First comment is a guy complaining about how when he moved into his trailer park everyone spoke English. Now they all speak Spanish.

Stop me if you've heard this one

Obama for socialist meat puppet

So now we agree with the New York Times?

I just imagine the EPORWer furiously mashing the like button 1,000 times

Words have no meaning

And now, a triptych of Obama throwing balls

"I approve this ratchetness by my fellow hood rats...I hate cops too"

This one might be satire

I don't know how many ways they have to say it: a black man is president, this cannot be, so I call SHENANIGANS

I just don't trust that n******

It's racist to systematically oppress and plunder the wealth of African Americans over the course of three centuries, require them to buy a government service in order to exercise their right to vote, then shut down all the government service providers in majority black counties. (like Alabama did)

is Barney Fife the last cultural reference these people retained?

nothing more American than "[scolding a black president and calling him names] ~ An old woman" ~ A conservative man

Birthright Citizenship

We found some black guys carrying stars and bars. Thererfore, NOT RACIST.
(Still a traitor flag)

Are we just making up racist flags now?

I couldn't find a nice pairing for this but really it pairs well with EPORW as a whole

Back to Michelle. Get this: her designer dress is expensive. I believe you will find that the Obamas claim to be against poverty, while THEY THEMSELVES ARE RICH!
But wait, if she wears WalMart clothes then she's not respecting the office. Must be something besides her clothes they're objecting to.
(Also, celebrities get free dresses from design houses all the time. I'm sure Narisco Rodriguez loved the free publicity here. The dress sold out the next day)

# ? Jan 18, 2016 15:03

LeJackal: Apr 5, 2011

Defenestration posted:

oh no not a mall!

I'm sure this entire 'refugee swears loyalty to ISIS' is just scaremongering, but malls are a pretty soft target for terrorism. Wasn't there an attack in Nairobi just a few years back?

# ? Jan 18, 2016 15:27

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Defenestration posted:

Now why would Michelle Obama say that we should stand up against racism in our families, and why would you be against that, EPORW?

I bet they'd be equally opposed to the government getting other types of extremist suspects to rat on their families, right?

# ? Jan 18, 2016 15:40

Rufio: Feb 6, 2003; I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!

No pic but i thought id share. It's really sad to reconnect with an old friend only to find out he's constantly sharing statuses that support Trump and seem to want some kind of civil war.

Anyways, this morning he shared a post from some TAKE AMERICA BACK page that quotes George Orwell where he says "The war isn't supposed to be won, it's meant to be continuous...".

I don't think the maker of the gif or my friend are very familiar with the source work and instead just googled war quotes and :justpost:

# ? Jan 18, 2016 17:27

boner confessor: Apr 25, 2013; by R. Guyovich

Rufio posted:

No pic but i thought id share. It's really sad to reconnect with an old friend only to find out he's constantly sharing statuses that support Trump and seem to want some kind of civil war.

Anyways, this morning he shared a post from some TAKE AMERICA BACK page that quotes George Orwell where he says "The war isn't supposed to be won, it's meant to be continuous...".

I don't think the maker of the gif or my friend are very familiar with the source work and instead just googled war quotes and

are you saying that the kinds of people who repost this oorah nonsense aren't very bright and tend to avoid critical examination of their beliefs???

# ? Jan 18, 2016 17:46

Rufio: Feb 6, 2003; I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!

Defenestration posted:

I agree, we should stop letting racists co-opt patriotic symbolism.

# ? Jan 18, 2016 18:02

Armyman25: Sep 6, 2005

A FB friend shared this one today, apparently it's been floating around since the 60s.
There's so much wrong here I don't even know where to begin, so I unfriended her.

Also, chalk this one up to people who can't figure out why they're called racist when they share things like this:

I mean, they didn't say anything explicitly racist so obviously I'm the real racist for thinking that the picture is calling for the president to be lynched.

# ? Jan 18, 2016 18:08

Iron Crowned: May 6, 2003; by Hand Knit

Armyman25 posted:

A FB friend shared this one today, apparently it's been floating around since the 60s.
There's so much wrong here I don't even know where to begin, so I unfriended her.

Also, chalk this one up to people who can't figure out why they're called racist when they share things like this:

I mean, they didn't say anything explicitly racist so obviously I'm the real racist for thinking that the picture is calling for the president to be lynched.

You're the real racist

# ? Jan 18, 2016 18:10

RabbitWizard: Oct 21, 2008; Muldoon

Defenestration posted:

Words have no meaning

I always like these. Just for fun i googled a bit. Not even on the site mentioned in the picture I was able to find out who named him "Most Corrupt Politician of 2013". So I guess it was GokuCuntPuncher420 in a youtube comment.

# ? Jan 18, 2016 18:11

ManlyGrunting: May 29, 2014

RabbitWizard posted:

I always like these. Just for fun i googled a bit. Not even on the site mentioned in the picture I was able to find out who named him "Most Corrupt Politician of 2013". So I guess it was GokuCuntPuncher420 in a youtube comment.

He would be against President Goku's far-left policies.

http://i.imgur.com/xvKEFsW.png

(I will never get tired of this :allears:

)

ManlyGrunting fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Jan 18, 2016

# ? Jan 18, 2016 20:33

Keeshhound: Jan 14, 2010; Mad Duck Swagger

Guilty Spork posted:

I agree, we should stop letting racists co-opt patriotic symbolism.

Those three are interesting just because it's clear that whoever made them doesn't understand why people call some things racist or hate speech. It's literally just "Liberals called something I like racist and hate speech! That means they think that everything I like is racist and hate speech! :cry:

# ? Jan 18, 2016 20:37

Dr. Arbitrary: Mar 15, 2006; Bleak Gremlin

When I was in the Navy we flew the First Navy Jack
from the front of the ship. It really pisses me off that the Gadsen Flag has been co-opted by bigots.

# ? Jan 18, 2016 21:45

TerminalSaint: Apr 21, 2007; Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?

I miss the days when someone flying the Gadsden was more likely to be a reenactor or a history teacher than a shithead arch-conservative.

# ? Jan 18, 2016 22:46

Tony Phillips: Feb 9, 2006

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

It really pisses me off that the Gadsen Flag has been co-opted by bigots.

Agreed to a point, but then "Pwease No Steppy" just makes it all worthwhile.

# ? Jan 18, 2016 22:58

Dr. Arbitrary: Mar 15, 2006; Bleak Gremlin

Tony Phillips posted:

Agreed to a point, but then "Pwease No Steppy" just makes it all worthwhile.

Every cloud has a silver lining.

# ? Jan 18, 2016 23:01

Bizarro Kanyon: Jan 3, 2007; Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!

I saw this posted on Facebook today.

This is the conversation that followed:

Random Dude posted:

You should probably read this to understand the whole situation beyond a meme. Darn Martin Luther King and his "bitching and moaning" about things!
http://www.amazon.com/Irish-Became-White.../dp/0415963095

Idiot Original Poster posted:

your assumptions about me is apparently flawed....MLK never preached for reparations he wanted equality....Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have preached reparations....MLK never bitched or moaned about anything, he is a leader that a movement for equality needed then and sorely lacks now. As for the Irish Became White....up to just before we were born the oppression of Irish Americans was very prevalent throughout areas of the country including our area....I have heard first hand of people seeing help wanted signs designating "Irish need not apply" in small towns all around St. Louis etc. You Sir should try to find a bit about history that is not confined to getting your references from Snopes or books.

Same Random Dude posted:

Martin Luther King Jr never preached reparations? That would be news to MLK Jr. (See video below) Everything you complained about with Sharpton and Jackson was complained about with MLK Jr. during his time. While he is looked back on today as a peaceful man who sought equality; during his time, he was called a race baiter, an agitator, a communist, an unamerican traitor, an inciter of violence and riots, and even an anti-white person (they would have used a different word to describe him) who wanted to destroy the entire white population. But at present times, it is harder to call him that publicly, so instead it is dog whistle white supremacist memes shared on the day meant to honor his fight.

Yep, the Irish were oppressed (I know about the Irish need not apply signs). They were oppressed until they were needed for political power. Those in power feared poor whites (including the Irish) would join up with blacks to form a powerful voting block which would disrupt the status quo. While blacks were being held back politically (poll taxes, poll tests, absolute refusal, intimidation, terror, murder) or economically (share cropping and tenant farming) or geographically (red lining) or socially (a criminal justice system that replaced slavery with forced free labor, black codes and Jim Crow laws), the Irish were being brought into power while specifically being told that the blacks were out to get them (take their jobs, hurt their women). Laws were even passed in some areas making it illegal for blacks and whites to meet together in a social setting (creating unions or discussing laws, etc). Combine that with segregation (which did not really apply to the Irish) and suddenly you realize that the last 100+ years prove that there was a massive difference.

But here is the video showcasing MLK advocating for reparations.
http://youtu.be/_NNvzVCVhIM

I want to help Random Dude but I do not want to touch the poop.

# ? Jan 19, 2016 00:14

TheMaskedChemist: Mar 30, 2010

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

I saw this posted on Facebook today.

This is the conversation that followed:

I want to help Random Dude but I do not want to touch the poop.

"Look man, you need to stop getting your information from independent fact checkers, and professional historians, and start getting it from Fox News."

# ? Jan 19, 2016 00:28

Mellow Seas: Oct 9, 2012; Can't post for 10 years!

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

I saw this posted on Facebook today.

I want to help Random Dude but I do not want to touch the poop.

Bringing up Snopes as the ultimate Soros-fueled dispenser of Liberal Ignorance when Random Dude hadn't even mentioned it is like, holy poo poo, what a red flag. I have a hard time imagining there's any way for this guy to be redeemed. And, "or books"?? What the actual gently caress.

Also, you should make friends with Random Dude, he seems pretty with it.

So predictable that this guy has no idea MLK called for reparations (or, for that matter, massive economic redistribution even among whites). I took the few opportunities I had today to preach to people about both the real MLK and the real reactions white people had to him at the time, as opposed to the Disneyfied saint 90% of the country thinks he was.

# ? Jan 19, 2016 01:24

Nathilus: Apr 4, 2002; I alone can see through the media bias.

I'm also stupid on a scale that can only be measured in Reddits.

Fulchrum posted:

https://youtu.be/h9Za2FZJrKs

https://youtu.be/4hdiuRMK3UQ

# ? Jan 19, 2016 01:34

Boywhiz88: Sep 11, 2005; floating 26" off da ground. BURR!

Mellow Seas posted:

Bringing up Snopes as the ultimate Soros-fueled dispenser of Liberal Ignorance when Random Dude hadn't even mentioned it is like, holy poo poo, what a red flag. I have a hard time imagining there's any way for this guy to be redeemed. And, "or books"?? What the actual gently caress.

Also, you should make friends with Random Dude, he seems pretty with it.

So predictable that this guy has no idea MLK called for reparations (or, for that matter, massive economic redistribution even among whites). I took the few opportunities I had today to preach to people about both the real MLK and the real reactions white people had to him at the time, as opposed to the Disneyfied saint 90% of the country thinks he was.

Also the fact that we had an Irish-American President a good 40 years before our first black one.

# ? Jan 19, 2016 02:09

Polybius91: Jun 4, 2012; Cobrastan is not a real country.

Got this old gem thrown at me during an argument about refugees:

quote:

All I can do is hope for you to soon get your own dose of 'cultural enrichment."

You know, I was aware these people existed. I was aware they said this sort of thing unironically. But holy poo poo, it did not prepare me for actually encountering this in the wild.

# ? Jan 19, 2016 02:46

ManlyGrunting: May 29, 2014

Mellow Seas posted:

Bringing up Snopes as the ultimate Soros-fueled dispenser of Liberal Ignorance when Random Dude hadn't even mentioned it is like, holy poo poo, what a red flag. I have a hard time imagining there's any way for this guy to be redeemed. And, "or books"?? What the actual gently caress.

Also, you should make friends with Random Dude, he seems pretty with it.

So predictable that this guy has no idea MLK called for reparations (or, for that matter, massive economic redistribution even among whites). I took the few opportunities I had today to preach to people about both the real MLK and the real reactions white people had to him at the time, as opposed to the Disneyfied saint 90% of the country thinks he was.

The absolute saddest thing to me was that such an amazing man ended up becoming a martyr for the very same sort of people who gunned him down like a dog. :smith: