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Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



El Estrago Bonito posted:

And more specifically it let you dial BBS that were a long way away and get those sweet sweet filez without having to pay out the rear end in bills.

That and all the conference bridge numbers that were raided so a bunch of teenagers from across the country could insult each other's hacking skills in the middle of the night.

I think it's out of print, but the book Masters of Deception does a pretty good job of capturing Phreak and Hacker culture of the late 80s/early 90s. Specifically the MOD vs. LOD poo poo that went down. There's a bit of hysteria in there as it was written by journalists, but it definitely depicted them as ego-driven teenagers which is pretty accurate.

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Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

HaB posted:

Fixed. :)

Berzerk arcade will always be the best because of the robot voices.

"intruder alert! intruder alert!"
"get. the. humanoid"
"got. the. humanoid. got the intruder"
"chicken. fight like a robot."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hA-boZ6xAI

I'm a big enough nerd that I bought the Pac-Man Fever album on CD when it came out :shobon:

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
When I was a kid I finished Berzerk on the Atari 2600, what happens is you play it for hours and then get a black screen :(
I guess they though no one would ever bother finishing it, but they didn't reckon on my spergin' childhood ways

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

peter gabriel posted:

When I was a kid I finished Berzerk on the Atari 2600, what happens is you play it for hours and then get a black screen :(
I guess they though no one would ever bother finishing it, but they didn't reckon on my spergin' childhood ways

Since Berzerk is one of the few video games with a body count, I imagine they thought it would finish you first.

Catzilla
May 12, 2003

"Untie the queen"


flosofl posted:

That and all the conference bridge numbers that were raided so a bunch of teenagers from across the country could insult each other's hacking skills in the middle of the night.

I think it's out of print, but the book Masters of Deception does a pretty good job of capturing Phreak and Hacker culture of the late 80s/early 90s. Specifically the MOD vs. LOD poo poo that went down. There's a bit of hysteria in there as it was written by journalists, but it definitely depicted them as ego-driven teenagers which is pretty accurate.

The Hacker Crackdown is a book written by Bruce Sterling in the early 90's about the Secret Service raiding Steve Jackson Games, because their Gurps system was alleged by Bell South to have used documents relating to the Emergency 911 system. The book features interviews with phreakers and hackers of the day and chronicles the birth of the Electronic Frontier Foundation. As a portrait of what the early days of the internet and BBS's its fantastic.

You can buy it on amazon, but he also released it for free under a creative commons license I think. You can download a copy here (Not files!)

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Catzilla posted:

The Hacker Crackdown is a book written by Bruce Sterling in the early 90's about the Secret Service raiding Steve Jackson Games, because their Gurps system was alleged by Bell South to have used documents relating to the Emergency 911 system. The book features interviews with phreakers and hackers of the day and chronicles the birth of the Electronic Frontier Foundation. As a portrait of what the early days of the internet and BBS's its fantastic.

You can buy it on amazon, but he also released it for free under a creative commons license I think. You can download a copy here (Not files!)

I was just playing Uplink a few days ago and had a chuckle when I saw/remembered that there's a Steve Jackson Games server you can hack in it. :)

Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug

peter gabriel posted:

When I was a kid I finished Berzerk on the Atari 2600, what happens is you play it for hours and then get a black screen :(
I guess they though no one would ever bother finishing it, but they didn't reckon on my spergin' childhood ways

It isn't really beating the game in the sense that we know it today, it just gets to a point where a value exceeds a logical (to the machine) maximum and shuts down. In Defender, it was when I went to level 257 because that is one more than 2^8 which the Atari couldn't understand to be a real thing.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

Catzilla posted:

The Hacker Crackdown is a book written by Bruce Sterling in the early 90's about the Secret Service raiding Steve Jackson Games, because their Gurps system was alleged by Bell South to have used documents relating to the Emergency 911 system. The book features interviews with phreakers and hackers of the day and chronicles the birth of the Electronic Frontier Foundation. As a portrait of what the early days of the internet and BBS's its fantastic.

You can buy it on amazon, but he also released it for free under a creative commons license I think. You can download a copy here (Not files!)

monolithburger
Sep 7, 2011

flosofl posted:

That and all the conference bridge numbers that were raided so a bunch of teenagers from across the country could insult each other's hacking skills in the middle of the night.

I think it's out of print, but the book Masters of Deception does a pretty good job of capturing Phreak and Hacker culture of the late 80s/early 90s. Specifically the MOD vs. LOD poo poo that went down. There's a bit of hysteria in there as it was written by journalists, but it definitely depicted them as ego-driven teenagers which is pretty accurate.

That reminds me of a similar book; Underground, it's from a mostly Australian perspective and was researched by Julian Assange!

DicktheCat
Feb 15, 2011


HhhhhhMMMMMMMmmmm, that's some good cyberpunk!

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe

ryonguy posted:

Do you use 3D models of record grooves for audio files?

Nah, I still have a shitload that needs to be converted to FLAC. The rest is indeed digital hoarding, minus damp carpet and five year olds going to school by themselves while I am recovering from WoW binges on my Alienware rig

dpbjinc posted:

I bet he downloaded that one Touhou torrent that's something like 14 terabytes at this point.

anime is garbage hth god bless

Jerry Cotton posted:

Oh hey did you finish Platform Masters yet? Can't wait to play it!

I did not get this one so I found the site and looked at the video. Well, that was uh.. informative.

I basically just want the pitching for music production, it's easier to learn chord progressions or figure out melodies when you can slow things down and not having to start up Live for it is convenient. Also, sampling.

HaB
Jan 5, 2001

What are the odds?

Collateral Damage posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hA-boZ6xAI

I'm a big enough nerd that I bought the Pac-Man Fever album on CD when it came out :shobon:

Ha. I still have this record on my iPod.

:v:

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Mister Kingdom posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D780JHlQxxs

My friends and I played the gently caress out of this game. I loved the sound effects. Nah, nah, nah, nah.

Ah, but did you know the secret of the bulletproof necktie?

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Jedit posted:

Ah, but did you know the secret of the bulletproof necktie?

Say what?

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014


Wrong game. I didn't click your link and thought you were still talking about Berzerk.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Zaphod42 posted:

I was just playing Uplink a few days ago and had a chuckle when I saw/remembered that there's a Steve Jackson Games server you can hack in it. :)

Uplink was a very cool game. I found little notepads of server IPs and user/pass combos a few months ago when moving house. I knew what the random scribbles meant straight away but would look like potential evidence of crimes to the police I'm sure.

coolskull
Nov 11, 2007


Good Ugh! Raisins and Peanuts

moller
Jan 10, 2007

Swan stole my music and framed me!

LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:

Good Ugh! Raisins and Peanuts

System.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

The author



Actually, how much obsolete and failed tech is in that picture? Though I think most of it is just early versions of stuff we have now. The Pixis is just an early version of a GPS like Tom Tom, thought I have no idea what a Private Eye is.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch

twistedmentat posted:

The author



Actually, how much obsolete and failed tech is in that picture? Though I think most of it is just early versions of stuff we have now. The Pixis is just an early version of a GPS like Tom Tom, thought I have no idea what a Private Eye is.

http://www.loper-os.org/vintage/paralleleye/eye.html

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

I'm not sure how that helps you stay online 24/4, but I know why it failed. people don't want to wear poo poo on their head. That's why VR will never take off, no matter how many maid games the Japanese release for the occulus.

Actually, It reminds me of the things the Dominion uses in DS9 on their ships instead of veiwscreens.

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy
I like that story on the linked page: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=752

Disturbingly realistic.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

twistedmentat posted:

I'm not sure how that helps you stay online 24/4, but I know why it failed. people don't want to wear poo poo on their head. That's why VR will never take off, no matter how many maid games the Japanese release for the occulus.
3D movies require you to wear lovely uncomfortable glasses and have unfortunately gained a foothold, ruining cinema.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Collateral Damage posted:

3D movies require you to wear lovely uncomfortable glasses and have unfortunately gained a foothold, ruining cinema.

There's a huge difference between wearing a pair of what amounts of sunglasses and a giant loving box on your face.

That article talks about militarily usages of head mounted displays, but hasn't testing of those in the field shown that soldiers lose situational awareness because too much information is being fed so them so they lose track of what's going on right there and then?

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

twistedmentat posted:

There's a huge difference between wearing a pair of what amounts of sunglasses and a giant loving box on your face.

That article talks about militarily usages of head mounted displays, but hasn't testing of those in the field shown that soldiers lose situational awareness because too much information is being fed so them so they lose track of what's going on right there and then?

Okay cool. We won't put it on a solider then.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Collateral Damage posted:

3D movies require you to wear lovely uncomfortable glasses and have unfortunately gained a foothold, ruining cinema.

Yeah but that's because 3D is the last gimmick theaters have left since most people have huge rear end HDTVs at home these days.

Meanwhile 3DTVs did mostly flop and the reason why was mostly the glasses.

People do hate the glasses, but they'll sometimes put up with them in bursts for the novelty of 3D movies.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

Krispy Kareem posted:

Okay cool. We won't put it on a solider then.



Counterpoint:

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
The Visually-Coupled Airborne Systems Simulator, early design work seems to date from around 1977. Each eyepiece had a 18mm mini-CRT.


monolithburger
Sep 7, 2011

twistedmentat posted:

The author



Actually, how much obsolete and failed tech is in that picture? Though I think most of it is just early versions of stuff we have now. The Pixis is just an early version of a GPS like Tom Tom, thought I have no idea what a Private Eye is.

This is his son, right?

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

C.M. Kruger posted:

The Visually-Coupled Airborne Systems Simulator, early design work seems to date from around 1977. Each eyepiece had a 18mm mini-CRT.




That is easily the goofiest headset I've ever seen. Holy poo poo dual-CRTs mounted right to your face? :lol:

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Zaphod42 posted:

That is easily the goofiest headset I've ever seen. Holy poo poo dual-CRTs mounted right to your face? :lol:

Imagine trying to turn your head or, god forbid, look up. I kept expecting to see some rigging that supported the weight of that goddamn thing.

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

T-man posted:

Imagine trying to turn your head or, god forbid, look up. I kept expecting to see some rigging that supported the weight of that goddamn thing.

There is a rope in the third picture.
It's not like you can actually turn your head with how wide that thing is.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

twistedmentat posted:

There's a huge difference between wearing a pair of what amounts of sunglasses and a giant loving box on your face.

That article talks about militarily usages of head mounted displays, but hasn't testing of those in the field shown that soldiers lose situational awareness because too much information is being fed so them so they lose track of what's going on right there and then?

Yeah, at least with the giant loving box you don't have to get it over your normal glasses making it pretty much unwatchable without pain.

Still pissed I have to wait for the home release to see Star Wars without massive distortion from overlaid glasses.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Keiya posted:

Yeah, at least with the giant loving box you don't have to get it over your normal glasses making it pretty much unwatchable without pain.

Still pissed I have to wait for the home release to see Star Wars without massive distortion from overlaid glasses.

Uh what? I saw star wars in 2D in theaters. You live in a small town or something?

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

twistedmentat posted:

The author



Actually, how much obsolete and failed tech is in that picture? Though I think most of it is just early versions of stuff we have now. The Pixis is just an early version of a GPS like Tom Tom, thought I have no idea what a Private Eye is.

What I love about that is that every single item is obsolete. (with the exception of the laptop)

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

twistedmentat posted:

The author



Actually, how much obsolete and failed tech is in that picture? Though I think most of it is just early versions of stuff we have now. The Pixis is just an early version of a GPS like Tom Tom, thought I have no idea what a Private Eye is.
Private Eye ... Google Glass

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


Sperglord Firecock posted:

One thing that has always fascinated me was Phreaking.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phreaking

Back in the day, phone calls and the like were controlled by different tones and sounds played through the phone lines, such as the infamous 2600hz, which told the phone line that you hung up, and connected you to the main trunk of phone calls. The last system in the US that used this method was in Alaska and was phased out in 2011. The early hacking communities have much to owe from phreaks, as they were pioneers of the art, and most commonly collaborated on BBS forums.

As stated, with the switch from analog to digital phone calls, Phreaking is now essentially impossible except in the most backwater places in the world.
Similarly, using a scanner to listen in on cordless and cell phone calls.

blugu64 posted:

One last cool vestige is the ability to dial a phone via pulse by tapping the hook. Get your timing right and don't accidentally call 911
:eng101: 911 was chosen as the emergency number in the US because 9 is unlikely to be pulse dialed by accident or pulsed by a bad connection or broken wire making intermittent contact, and 11 is much faster to dial than 99

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Zaphod42 posted:

Uh what? I saw star wars in 2D in theaters. You live in a small town or something?

The 2D showings of blockbusters seem to get sold out faster than the 3D. I think everyone takes 3D as the second option nowadays after it wore off.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

The problem is cinemas want to sell more of the 3D shows because they can charge more for them, so the non-3D version is usually only shown in small theatres.

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BOGO LOAD
Jul 1, 2004

"You know I always had trouble really chewing the fat with my pops. Just listen to him..."
There was a lot of mention of Van Eck Phreaking in Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon, which I just finished reading for the first time recently. A cursory check on Google shows that it's only a topic of discussion among conspiracy theorists. Searching on Youtube, the second video is a guy convinced his "fat pig" of a neighbor has been spying on him using this method and a majority of his channel are videos of random people he's convinced are gang stalking him. Fun stuff.

Is it safe to assume that this method of spying is pretty much obsolete?

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