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Ninja Bob posted:But why would you use PTO or FMLA before you use your sick time? At most of my jobs, PTO/Vacation/whatever they call it gets paid out if you're laid off, but sick doesn't, so sick should be the first category of time used. If there's no distinction and it's all just PTO, I suppose it doesn't matter. Er, most people I think believe sick time is meant as you being sick, not your dependents. I've never known anyone to take off sick time because their children are sick, so I'm not sure if it's common or not.
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Cicero posted:Good work, now post a review on Glassdoor so others will know about the red flags without having to interview first. Thanks yeah I posted an interview review. SiGmA_X posted:gently caress that dude. I do agree 15/15 vacation/sick is a lot, but it's not at all unheard of to negotiate terms. That's what I was thinking, too. If I'd been there for quarter to half a year then a lot of work would have been done. I think he thought I wanted a full year's profit sharing when I started, but I clearly said "accruing" in there twice. Plus he made it sound in the interview that it's something that would be included in the offer in the time frames I mentioned. No Butt Stuff posted:I have 4 children, two of whom are 6 months old. I know they get sick. But you burn PTO or FMLA to take care of them. n8r posted:In places that aren't tech hubs, asking for a month of time off seems very high to me. It's fine because I think the job was a bad fit, but I feel like a lot of the posters here are giving KG some unrealistic expectations with regard to pay and benefits. Yeah the pay was pretty much non-negotiable after some math. It would have been incredibly impractical to move because of our day care. Our baby sitter and my family is all within a few miles of here, so it makes it very easy and cheap to take care of what's needed. The vacation sure, but it was worth a shot I figured. If I had really wanted the job I would have thrown in some words of compromise. The guy said he used to throw office printers and monitors off of his second story balcony onto the warehouse floor when he got pissed off. His only redeeming quality that I was shown was he donated his time to charities making Access databases for them. And that may do more harm than good at this point. I figure the professional thing for him to do would have been to politely decline, or to counter-offer. I don't think he has much respect for his employees. He kept saying "Oh yeah it takes this guy 2 months I could do that in TWO DAYS!!", and I was thinking yeah and that's how you end up with janky unreliable crap. BloodBag posted:I've worked for a guy like that in the past. He was an egomaniac narcissist that could do no wrong and consistently yelled and tiraded around the office when even the most minor thing happened. A lot of fuckups were traced directly back to him and his lack of source code controls. He eventually stopped paying everyone in the office. At the first missed paycheck, I peaced out of there. He wanted me back so I wrote him a letter saying pay me what you owe me and I'll consider it. I found out later he stamped all around the office in a fit of rage after that. I sent Texas Workforce commission after him and I got my pay. His response email to my letter was pretty close to what you got. Bullet dodged dude, life's too short to work for assholes. Turns out he didn't pay some people for like six weeks 'because they have savings'. gently caress that guy. Agreed. I did a lot of reading on freelancing laws last night. There is a clause in the 1986 Tax Reform Act that removes an exemption for employers who "mistakenly" classify high tech employees as contractors (the end goal would be to save the company payroll tax). Basically if a contractor should be an employee, then a company will have to pay back payroll taxes on said contractor for their services. It can make companies cautious to hire because the line isn't very defined regarding what is a contractor, and what is an employee. The IRS will also "dissolve" 1 man high tech contracting firms less than a year old, and it may need to be fought to prove that the one man company is actually a contractor. I'll need to save up and get a CPA and a lawyer to go over some details with me. Then I'll need to incorporate as an LLC, and as an aside probably get some professional liability insurance. Insurance is about $1000/yr, a CPA based off what I've read will cost $1,500/yr (and I'll be incredibly careful selecting someone who will represent me in an IRS audit, with an indemnification clause if they don't), and an LLC will be I'm estimating $1000/yr. I don't have a plan to pay for all of that yet, but it's not something I'll be able to start immediately. I'm probably looking at 6 months. I also found out some of the "hidden costs" of freelancing. Many of which are listed above, and many of which are the loss of things such as a lack of paid holidays. However I'll be moonlighting at first and possibly indefinitely depending on how things turn out. I'll just dedicate 2 hours a day that I was going to use on that commute, and if I can end up with $13,000 net income this year then I'll be in the same financial place I would have been, but with some self respect. Benefits talk: My wife gets 3 weeks a year PTO which I think is definitely better than my 2 weeks vacation 1 week sick leave Knyteguy fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Jan 20, 2016 |
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Rurutia posted:Er, most people I think believe sick time is meant as you being sick, not your dependents. I've never known anyone to take off sick time because their children are sick, so I'm not sure if it's common or not.
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Rurutia posted:Er, most people I think believe sick time is meant as you being sick, not your dependents. I've never known anyone to take off sick time because their children are sick, so I'm not sure if it's common or not. I see people taking sick days for their kids every day at work. This is incredibly common.
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Depends on the company. At my current one I can take one sick day to care for dependents a year. But I also have like 3 months of sick leave given to me every year and the rest would be half pay sick leave.
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Whelp, I'll let my husband and parents know that they're taking off PTO for no reason. They have unlimited sick leave too.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:I see people taking sick days for their kids every day at work. This is incredibly common. Pretty much this all the time. poo poo at my old job with sick time I used most my sick time to go the the dentist and stuff.
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No Butt Stuff posted:I have 4 children, two of whom are 6 months old. I know they get sick. But you burn PTO or FMLA to take care of them. That's what sick time is for unless you work for Mr. Spreadsheet of Lazy Employees.
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Baja Mofufu posted:As you reveal more of what this guy said it's pretty surprising that you were seriously considering working for him. FWIW we basically forced KG to take the interview to get some practice at least.
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spwrozek posted:FWIW we basically forced KG to take the interview to get some practice at least. Well yeah, there's nothing wrong with interviewing. I said/meant after having talked to the guy.
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Knyteguy posted:I'm never sure what to say exactly. I'm generally prepared for "what are you currently making". Plus I've always been told to try to get them to throw out a number first, which I did accomplish. I need work negotiating for salaries. We pressured him to take the interview, even though he was lukewarm about it, but this is the specific post I see where after the rest of the thread starts talking about red flags and how the job doesn't sound that great from the description (esp for 80k), Knyte starts sounding like he's seriously considering taking an offer. I mentioned it before but you sound easy to bulldoze/pressure so please try to build a cooling off/get advice period into important life decisions. Colin Mockery fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Jan 20, 2016 |
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Rurutia posted:Er, most people I think believe sick time is meant as you being sick, not your dependents. I've never known anyone to take off sick time because their children are sick, so I'm not sure if it's common or not. Henrik Zetterberg posted:I see people taking sick days for their kids every day at work. This is incredibly common.
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Yeah at work our sick days are classified as sick-self or sick-dependent when we enter them in but they all come from the same sick day pool
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spwrozek posted:Most places don't have sick time anymore just PTO. Sick time is dumb anyways. At an old job or was 10 vacation and 7 sick. Which means I had 2 weeks off really. My current job is just 27 PTO. Much better. I work at a government job and I get 13 days vacation + 11 paid holidays + 3 personal holidays (basically extra vacation) + 13 sick days. A lot of times, I am not really sick enough not to work, but I work in a high stakes environment, where if I come to work contagious and get others sick, it could be really really bad for staffing. Anytime anyone even looks depressed, let alone sick, they get sent home. I actually much prefer this to where I used to work and every little thing was questioned, including someone who had a miscarriage and took time off for it.
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Baja Mofufu posted:Well yeah, there's nothing wrong with interviewing. I said/meant after having talked to the guy. Put yourself in KG's shoes, he had an actual for real opportunity to increase his paycheck after being prick teased by his current boss about the very same thing for months? Years? The recognition and ego boost that comes with increased pay that's been deferred for unjustifiably long is pretty goddamn alluring on an emotional level. Of course, making more money won't help KG & Janus' finances until they can exert sustained and real discipline over their spending but it's not hard to see how it was attractive.
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RheaConfused posted:I work at a government job and I get 13 days vacation + 11 paid holidays + 3 personal holidays (basically extra vacation) + 13 sick days.
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Local government worker checking in  Top vacation / bottom sick time. I also have two personal days I can use. 
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SiGmA_X posted:That sounds glorious. My manager is sick right now. The 6 day work weeks at 12-14 hours cause her to get sick every January. The rest of us are expected to be here unless we're throwing up, pretty much. We CAN WFH, but because we're so paper heavy, we can't do it during closing... Paper is the bane of my existence. I think in the only anti paper person in corporate finance, too! Yeah, previously I worked in a hospital and the attitude that you MUST come to work no matter what was really pervasive and horrible. Now I work with a helicopter rescue unit that is not privately owned. God help you if you get a pilot sick. But also, they actually care about you. Imagine that!
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I work in a cancer research facility so if you have a fever you ARE NOT ALLOWED TO COME IN! Managers will get pissed if you walk in the building sick. We all got the super quad protection flu shots. And there's a nurses office on the floor below. Can get any vaccination you want there, plus they'll tell you to go home if they think you are a contagion. Handy. 13 holidays, 13 days of sick, 12 vacation days starting at day one. Plus a floating holiday/personal day somewhere. No one uses vacation to take care of their sick kids. nosir.
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My Rhythmic Crotch posted:I have hesitated to post anything because this thread got so mind-bogglingly, eye-bulgingly stupid with all the lying and hiding and stuff. But here goes. There are several things I think you ought to take away from this whole "new job" thing. Meant to get to this post. 1) I do, but I don't get many hits. I feel like I have a decent profile picture. My description is: quote:I am a software engineer who is focused on creating and maintaining software solutions to enhance the productivity and sales of your company. I have a wide range of experience in the software side of business, from designing and creating solutions in an enterprise environment, to planning and creating feature-rich graphical user interfaces and interactions for web, desktop, and mobile. I am an extremely motivated self-learner who picks up new concepts very quickly. 3) Working on it. I do have a Github as well. My only problem is I don't like to necessarily open source my work, as it's usually commercial. I have a semi-popular project (to my standards) that I've been meaning to update. Here's my profile: https://github.com/Noppadet I'm not sure what else I can do there at the moment. Dwight Eisenhower posted:Put yourself in KG's shoes, he had an actual for real opportunity to increase his paycheck after being prick teased by his current boss about the very same thing for months? Years? Yeah it's just this. I've turned down two jobs this year already. One was $86,000/first year and ~$75,000/yr, and the other was $75,000/yr + ~$86,000/yr potentially. It's a little frustrating to be walking away from a significant salary increase, even if the reality is that it would be less money overall, or a crappy work environment. I'm thinking of seeing if I can go 4/10s or 3/12s at my day job. I'm trying to come up with ways to spin it as a benefit for everyone (as has been mentioned in the thread before). If I could do 3/12s with perhaps phone obligations (very rare) the remaining two days without a pay cut, then I would actually be getting a raise per hour. If I took a 5% pay cut it would still be a raise. 4/10s is probably more realistic. If I can manage to get that, then I could use the 1-2 remaining days to startmy freelance business. It will be slow to start, but I'd like to have a website and blog setup and finished by my birthday in August, which is realistic. I'm turning 30 this year, so becoming more financially independent from my day job would be a great way to start my next decade. My dog has one ligament in her knee that the vet believes is fully torn, and her other knee is partially torn. We got some blood work done to see if she has a thyroid problem as she's overweight despite cutting food, and she has a very low energy level. The vet quoted us at $6,000 for ligament surgery (TPLO both knees). We'll be trying conservative management with continual calorie cutting at first instead of surgery, and then keeping her on anti-inflammatories. Hopefully she will improve. The vet believes that weight loss would help the most. If not then I'll have to moonlight to pay for it. I intend on shopping around if it comes to this. We could potentially take her to the UC Berkeley veterinary school for a discount, or a more rural vet with lower overhead.
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Knyteguy posted:The vet quoted us at $6,000 for ligament surgery (TPLO both knees). We'll be trying conservative management with continual calorie cutting at first instead of surgery, and then keeping her on anti-inflammatories. Hopefully she will improve. The vet believes that weight loss would help the most. If not then I'll have to moonlight to pay for it. I intend on shopping around if it comes to this. We could potentially take her to the UC Berkeley veterinary school for a discount, or a more rural vet with lower overhead. If a veterinary school is an option for you, I would highly recommend it. They have more up-to-date equipment and way more specialists on hand than your average vet. It's much more like a hospital, where you have an anesthesiologist monitoring the anesthesia, radiologists who read any X-rays/ultrasounds/etc., plus at least one experienced surgeon who specializes in and teaches the type of surgery being done, and then one or more vet students who are learning from the process. That said, I don't consider vet schools "a discount." The vet school we used charged the same amount for the procedure that our vet would have. The only difference was that the vet school had way more experience and was better equipped to handle emergencies.
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First off, this sucks. Dogs are family. Second off, call around to a few vets. A friend of mine works for a mobile surgical vet who seems to move between multiple practices, and he once told me that it would cost ~1800 a knee for an ACL, when I had paid ~2500.
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slap me silly posted:Pet insurance is bad with money, you should get rid of it and put the money in a savings account instead. I have both a pet savings and pet care line item for my lab. And an emergency fund I would use on him, depending on what it is. I grew up on a farm so I'm not against putting an animal down, but I'd rather not. Depending on what it is.
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DogsCantBudget posted:First off, this sucks. Dogs are family. As a vet myself, I'd say that it depends on the procedure. If the dog it small and you can get away with a lateral suture then yes, it's cheaper. $3000/knee though is fairly typical for a TPLO. I also don't think you'd be able to (or want to) find a rural vet to do a TPLO, Knyte. That's specialist stuff. Also... do you mean UC Davis?
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slap me silly posted:Pet insurance is bad with money, you should get rid of it and put the money in a savings account instead. I agree with this generally, but pet insurance saved me when my dog swallowed a ball and would have died without surgery to remove it. I had zero savings at the time (and in fact quite a bit of debt). I ended up paying $100 of a $2500 procedure. That alone was equivalent to several years worth of premiums. I feel like I "lucked out", but I'm constantly keeping an eye on the premium and whether I'm coming out ahead (or only slightly behind--the price for "peace of mind" I guess). I think eventually as my savings builds and the premiums start going up, I'll cancel. In this case, if KG doesn't already have pet insurance, he probably shouldn't bother looking into it. The premiums would be huge for an older dog (I'm making the assumption that the dog is kind of old), and I can't imagine there are too many things that could happen at this point that they wouldn't consider a pre-existing condition anyway. Sorry to hear hear about your dog though.
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spwrozek posted:Don't spend $6000 on a dog. 9-80s I don't think would be worth it after reading about it. Interesting concept though - I'd never heard of that schedule before. I don't really have a problem if I can moonlight on the side to pay for her. I'm hopeful that conservative management and some dramatic weight loss will give her a good quality of life, though. LoreOfSerpents posted:If a veterinary school is an option for you, I would highly recommend it. They have more up-to-date equipment and way more specialists on hand than your average vet. It's much more like a hospital, where you have an anesthesiologist monitoring the anesthesia, radiologists who read any X-rays/ultrasounds/etc., plus at least one experienced surgeon who specializes in and teaches the type of surgery being done, and then one or more vet students who are learning from the process. Ah good to know. I was thinking it would be cheaper, but for better technologies it would still be worth it. Horking Delight posted:Would now be an inappropriate time to ask if you have pet insurance and if not, why not? Is that not a thing where you are or...? (I ask because our cats have insurance, but I don't know the details.) Nah no insurance. I haven't found very decent offerings around here. SiGmA_X posted:This. I've know a few people with arguable good pet insurance. One of them had some cat issue and the animal was hospitalized for a week plus and needed an operation, it was many thousands. They added up their premiums and decided it was basically a wash. This definitely isn't something I'd put her down for. She's not even 4 years old yet. Braki posted:As a vet myself, I'd say that it depends on the procedure. If the dog it small and you can get away with a lateral suture then yes, it's cheaper. $3000/knee though is fairly typical for a TPLO. I also don't think you'd be able to (or want to) find a rural vet to do a TPLO, Knyte. That's specialist stuff. Also... do you mean UC Davis? UC Davis yeah. My mistake. It would probably be worth it to go there if we opt for surgery, as it's only 2.5 hours by car. Alright yeah she's 95 lbs right now, so the vet didn't think a lateral suture would be worth it. Hopefully we can bring that weight down some. qmark posted:I agree with this generally, but pet insurance saved me when my dog swallowed a ball and would have died without surgery to remove it. I had zero savings at the time (and in fact quite a bit of debt). I ended up paying $100 of a $2500 procedure. That alone was equivalent to several years worth of premiums. I feel like I "lucked out", but I'm constantly keeping an eye on the premium and whether I'm coming out ahead (or only slightly behind--the price for "peace of mind" I guess). I think eventually as my savings builds and the premiums start going up, I'll cancel. Yeah she's not even 4. I have no idea how she tore her ligaments, as she's generally pretty lazy. Thanks. Sorry to hear about your dog as well. I'm glad pet insurance was able to help you out of a tight spot. foxatee posted:Keep in mind, he has--what?-- five pets? That's a lot of insurance. Four pets, but yeah. The cats are inside cats though, so luckily in the 5.5 years we've had them they've never had any problems. I'd guess that things will be needed as they get older, so we'll need to be prepared. The dogs are young at nearly 1 and a half or so, and nearly 4. My wife and I were talking about the budget last night. I'll post what we were thinking after we flesh it out some more. Nothing big, mostly just its purpose.
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Knyteguy posted:Alright yeah she's 95 lbs right now, so the vet didn't think a lateral suture would be worth it. Hopefully we can bring that weight down some. If any of your other pets are also fat, please feed them less as well before they have issues.
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No Butt Stuff posted:Just a quick thought: You do have a problem if you can moonlight to pay for it. $6,000 would help a lot of course. I'm trying to come up with a plan to take care of this while staying on track. We may be able to make some cuts we wouldn't otherwise make. We still have the most potential cuts to make in food expenses, for example. There's also the potential for trade work for the vet, and more. First though we'll find out about her thyroid, and go from there. Inept posted:If any of your other pets are also fat, please feed them less as well before they have issues. The rest are pretty good. We'll absolutely be keeping more of an eye on them moving forward. BarbarianElephant posted:I'd suggest not replacing older pets as they pass away until you are down to a couple of pets. It's easy to think of pets as just costing the price of a bag of food x 12 months. But the real cost of owning a pet is that $5,000 pet bill that they get about once a lifetime on average. Five pets means the once-in-a-lifetime bill will come around about every 3 years on average, assuming a lifetime of 15 years per pet. This is a good case for having a large emergency fund. We're definitely not getting more pets after this. I love animals if you can't tell, but I'm thinking our 50s or 60s would be a better time for them. My son will have exposure to them as he grows up with our current pets, so as long as that situation stands then I'm OK with it.
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Knyteguy posted:$6,000 would help a lot of course. I'm trying to come up with a plan to take care of this while staying on track. We may be able to make some cuts we wouldn't otherwise make. We still have the most potential cuts to make in food expenses, for example. There's also the potential for trade work for the vet, and more. First though we'll find out about her thyroid, and go from there. I think the point was if you had the potential to moonlight before and make enough to cover a $6K bill like this, you should have already been doing or done it to make a difference in the rest of your budget.
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