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Green line averages around 330k a day iirc
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 05:58 |
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the dc metro is a joke and shouldn't be the near the top of any list except "most incompetently run"
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 06:00 |
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Bloody posted:Green line averages around 330k a day iirc even if you add in the green line the dc metro is more than double the size in terms of track length BITCH
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 06:02 |
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mishaq posted:even if you add in the green line the dc metro is more than double the size in terms of track length dc metro doesn't know whether it's commuter rail, or mass transit. it's priced in between the two. there's more miles between stops than one expects on mass transit, and fewer than associated with commuter rail bart has the same "problem" the 1970s were a weird, weird time
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 06:24 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:dc metro doesn't know whether it's commuter rail, or mass transit. it's priced in between the two. there's more miles between stops than one expects on mass transit, and fewer than associated with commuter rail thats because mass transit in the us is bad except for nyc, chicago, and boston maybe
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 06:46 |
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mbta ridership is 1.3 million per day in a msa of 4.7 million people don't "boston maybe" that
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 07:13 |
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also considering dc metro is half commuter rail lets toss in the mbtas 368 miles of commuter rail track to that track length total
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 07:14 |
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http://www.apta.com/resources/statistics/Pages/RidershipArchives.aspx heres a lot of data
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 07:17 |
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i have very strong positive feelings about the mbta
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 07:18 |
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which is hosed up because boston blows rear end
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 07:18 |
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mishaq posted:helsinki's public transportation app/mobile site owns so hard and all the scheduling is updated in real time based on current conditions turns out you can grab helsinki's transit data out of the air if you're rad enough http://www.windytan.com/2013/11/broadcast-messages-on-darc-side.html
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 07:26 |
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t dot doesn't have their own transit app, but they have an open api for tracking and scheduled arrivals most of the surrounding municipalities just publish scheduled times, but in t.o. the system is pretty accurate
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 07:33 |
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Jimmy Carter posted:turns out you can grab helsinki's transit data out of the air if you're rad enough this is super cool and is the only use of all that phase shift key poo poo i learned in my RF class so far
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 08:00 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the 1970s were a weird, weird time in retrospect, the DC/SF style systems probably offered a good balance of pandering to suburban voters while also offering urban benefits. in the long term, the construction and maintenance costs of electrified, grade separated heavy rail are probably worth it for the high ridership and dense development it can handle. shame that Atlanta's similar system couldnt grow like its cousins but, you know, racists.
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 08:14 |
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I took MARTA a couple times, and it was pretty much the same as BART, even the Atlanta bus I took was OK which really surprised me.
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 08:30 |
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Bloody posted:also considering dc metro is half commuter rail lets toss in the mbtas 368 miles of commuter rail track to that track length total then thrown in VRE/MARC which goes all the way to West Virginia
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 14:26 |
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marta is exactly like bart in terms of the design/style of the system it just doesn't go anywhere
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 14:27 |
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Jimmy Carter posted:turns out you can grab helsinki's transit data out of the air if you're rad enough yeah i saw this before and it's cool
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 14:29 |
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mishaq posted:yeah i think the fraud potential would make it too difficult to do in its current form Doesn't seem to be a problem in London. Contactless payment just works if you have a contactless credit/debit card. Only downside is that it spams your bank statements instead of wrapping them up into weekly bunches.
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 14:52 |
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Live arrival times make a huge difference to usability and should be a priority for networks which don't have them.
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 14:53 |
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pointsofdata posted:Doesn't seem to be a problem in London. Contactless payment just works if you have a contactless credit/debit card. Only downside is that it spams your bank statements instead of wrapping them up into weekly bunches. id be interested to see how they do the authorization/response fast enough to not create queues at the gates
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 15:01 |
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'Since the oyster readers cannot write to a contactless card, the reader when touching out is unable to display the fare charged for the journey, as the card does not have the starting point stored in it. This is calculated overnight once the touch in and touch out information is downloaded from the gates and collated.' the gate is a computer
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 15:14 |
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Metrication posted:'Since the oyster readers cannot write to a contactless card, the reader when touching out is unable to display the fare charged for the journey, as the card does not have the starting point stored in it. This is calculated overnight once the touch in and touch out information is downloaded from the gates and collated.' so what stops me from using an expired/invalid contactless debit card that has no money
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 15:17 |
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Metrication posted:'Since the oyster readers cannot write to a contactless card, the reader when touching out is unable to display the fare charged for the journey, as the card does not have the starting point stored in it. This is calculated overnight once the touch in and touch out information is downloaded from the gates and collated.' yeah we have the same bullshit problems with Ventra and there are only three fare points (bus, train, and train from O'Hare) add this to Cubic.txt
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 15:22 |
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mishaq posted:so what stops me from using an expired/invalid contactless debit card that has no money dunno mate but apparently the computer knows and shows you a little red light 'Sometimes payments may be declined by your card issuer, this may be because your card account does not have enough funds to pay for your journey. If you get a red light when you touch your card on a reader, our staff will be able to tell you if your card issuer has declined payment.'
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 15:26 |
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mishaq posted:id be interested to see how they do the authorization/response fast enough to not create queues at the gates I wonder if they have some custom deal for it. or more likely since its England the state has access to your bank balance and they store it in the machines.
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 16:00 |
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Metrication posted:dunno mate but apparently the computer knows and shows you a little red light
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 16:00 |
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quote:For TfL, its whole payment system -- which has always been built in-house -- is a source of huge pride, particularly as public service IT projects have often otherwise ended in disaster. "We feel very proud that our record of delivering IT is not part of that horror story," TfL's customer service director Shashi Verma told Wired.co.uk. a clever COMPUTER works everything out
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 16:05 |
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a VERY clever computer 😂
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 16:06 |
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interlocking switches and signals in the Loop are hosed up. my train is standing in a station a couple stops outside the Loop is honestly a dumb idea but it's a huge source of civic pride so it's not going anywhere
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 16:15 |
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Bloody posted:which is hosed up because boston blows rear end Actually, Boston is good and the MBTA works4me but lmao i don't commute on it
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 16:25 |
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Metrication posted:a clever COMPUTER works everything out do you have to register your card before it will work?
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 17:05 |
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Shaggar posted:I wonder if they have some custom deal for it. or more likely since its England the state has access to your bank balance and they store it in the machines. they do a pre charge auth for 1p then reconcile it a day later with your trips I don't recall how they check for auth but I'd guess that since the max trip cost is like 10 pounds they just check if you can auth at least that
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 17:05 |
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Shaggar posted:do you have to register your card before it will work? no but you can if you want to see journey history
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 17:06 |
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Bloody posted:i have very strong positive feelings about the mbta does green line go past lechmere yet? I remember seeing condo listings for somerville circa 2007 where the future green line was pretty much the main thing mentioned
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 18:53 |
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Captain Foo posted:Actually, Boston is good lovely roads, lovely bike access, lovely transit? why not all three?
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 18:55 |
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Progressive JPEG posted:does green line go past lechmere yet? I remember seeing condo listings for somerville circa 2007 where the future green line was pretty much the main thing mentioned lol nope that got axed
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 19:07 |
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Progressive JPEG posted:lovely roads, lovely bike access, lovely transit? why not all three? bicycles are not transport.
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 19:39 |
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"recreational vehicles" The Puppet Master fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Jan 21, 2016 |
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minivanmegafun posted:interlocking switches and signals in the Loop are hosed up. my train is standing in a station a couple stops outside lol im really glad i came into work a little early today and missed that crazy poo poo by an hour and yeah they finally removed a stop on the loop it doesn't need loving 8 or 9 or whatever
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