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"The speech is good in a kind of harmless way" How goddamn patronizing can you get. Typifies the parochial attitude dominant in here.
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So you disagree?
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Redcordial posted:It was an amazing speech, and I was so glad to have been able to watch it live on ABC whilst doing some research at home. In the midst of my ranting, I should point out that the thing that does drag me back to this smelly church every time is that often there are truly interesting and good perspectives that I hadn't thought of before.
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open24hours posted:So you disagree? Obviously. Do you really need to ask this? I know you're open24hours, the most plodding thinker in the thread, but i still get confused when you ask for such banal clarifications.
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Jan 22, 2016 02:14
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Amethyst posted:In the midst of my ranting, I should point out that the thing that does drag me back to this smelly church every time is that often there are truly interesting and good perspectives that I hadn't thought of before. You needed someone else to point out he was inspirational and survived extreme conditions?
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I'm asking you to expand on your views. Some introspection would go a long way if you're going to criticise people for being 'philosophically bankrupt'. What did you get out of the speech, what do you think others should get out of the speech?
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Starshark posted:You needed someone else to point out he was inspirational and survived extreme conditions? When making sweeping insults directed at the majority of morons, like you, I feel the need to clarify to non-morons, like RedCordial, that I don't actually hate them.
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open24hours posted:I'm asking you to expand on your views. Some introspection would go a long way if you're going to criticise people for being 'philosophically bankrupt'. What did you get out of the speech, what do you think others should get out of the speech? If anyone needs a period of introspection, it's the guy calling Deng Thiak Adut's speech "good, and kind of harmless."
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In an internet full of competing communications, it can be difficult to establish a coherent identity but you seem to have done really well in nailing 'angry and stupid'. Cograts.
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Jan 22, 2016 02:22
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Amethyst posted:If anyone needs a period of introspection, it's the guy calling Deng Thiak Adut's speech "good, and kind of harmless." 'Uhh, maybe you are the one who is wrong: a treatise'
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open24hours posted:'Uhh, maybe you are the one who is wrong: a treatise' You are a braindead political junkie who has become so jaded that you equate a heart breaking and socially important story about a sudanese immigrant with emotional quotes shared to facebook. That you don't see this as a problem is why you are a junkie and not a thinker. Earnestly proposing that it's more imporant to make sarcastic jokes about racist pieces of poo poo rather than the actual message of the speech is demonstrative of how twisted and self serving your political mission has become. The cynicism which permeates this thread has likely become a part of your narcissistic self image, makes you feel like a real thinker. This covers up your obvious cognitive shortcomings, which are typified by posts like "Uh, could you please explain to me in detail what you mean when you say you disagree? I'm trying to wrap my head around this." Basically, people like you are incredibly frustrating to talk to because your completely static mindset is a part of what makes the political machine such a lumbering giant.
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Jan 22, 2016 02:28
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Presumably you disagree for a reason though?
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Jan 22, 2016 02:30
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open24hours posted:Presumably you disagree for a reason though? Stfu
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Stay inspired There's nothing wrong with the speech. It's not critical but people don't want a critique of their government on Australia day, they want to be reminded of the good things about their country and ignore its faults. That's fine, it's the same thing in other countries on their national day. I don't know what you're so upset about. open24hours fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Jan 22, 2016 |
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Jan 22, 2016 02:35
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h2h7U8QF2o
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open24hours posted:Stay inspired Try turning on your monitor and reading it again quote:In responding to tragedies in which the lives of victims and perpetrators alike have been snuffed out to serve some demagogue, we must all be careful not to let local opportunists exploit our emotions with simplistic solutions.
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Interesting. But for some inspirational parenting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8FYAqzwavE
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Jan 22, 2016 02:46
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Amethyst posted:Try turning on your monitor and reading it again Those are platitudes that neatly fit into almost any worldview, it's hardly a biting critique.
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open24hours posted:Those are platitudes that neatly fit into almost any worldview, it's hardly a biting critique. You're a cynical nitwit. Enjoy your empty political discourse.
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Jan 22, 2016 02:52
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*checks watch* Ah, carry on.
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Open24hours, slouching sidways in his posting throne to give Deng Thiak Adut a bit of sage advice: Nice platitudes kid. Maybe you should read up on what a real critique looks like though? There's a lot more stuff about poo touching.
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Jan 22, 2016 02:54
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Someone giving a speech like that on Australia day is a perfectly normal and acceptable thing to do, I'm not criticising him for anything. I would imagine he has much more nuanced views but didn't think that was the time or the place to air them. I know it's easy to attack a strawman, but I'm not sure it's worthwhile.
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open24hours posted:Someone giving a speech like that on Australia day is perfectly normal and acceptable thing to do, I'm not criticising him for anything. I would imagine he has much more nuanced views but didn't think that was the time or the place to air them. I know it's easy to attack a strawman, but I'm not sure it's worthwhile. Nice backpedal. Equating his speech to Facebook platitudes is a critique, guy, and a loving stupid one at that.
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Jan 22, 2016 03:01
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A critique of the speech, not the person. Christ man, get it together.
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Hey congrats, now no one will read it because there's a bunch of idiots throwing poo at each other instead.
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Amethyst posted:You are such a loving drag dude. 
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open24hours posted:A critique of the speech, not the person. Christ man, get it together. Ah yes, because that is the most important point of distinction, definitely the central thrust of the argument. It's funny to watch brainless junkies flail around clumsily when called on their bullshit.
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Yes, obviously? What do you think I was trying to say 'This guy gave the kind of inoffensive speech he was expected to give so he's obviously an idiot'?
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open24hours posted:Yes, obviously? What do you think I was trying to say 'This guy gave the kind of inoffensive speech he was expected to give so he's obviously an idiot'? I'm not going to clarify every nuance of the argument for your literal minded rear end anymore dude, sorry. You're going to have to use the reading comprehension skills your teacher failed to impart to you.
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To sum up, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYvMeT2GC14
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Strawman? I remember the days of strawmen fondly. Now all we ever seem to get are poopmen. Sausage fest poop. In ever growing piles, of poo.  http://www.yellowpages.com.au/nsw/macksville/1800-poo-man-14233014-listing.html
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No one loving cares which Auspol blowhard is slightly more annoying than the other in each particular instance, get the gently caress over yourselves
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Cartoon posted:Strawman? I remember the days of strawmen fondly. Now all we ever seem to get are poopmen. Sausage fest poop. In ever growing piles, of poo. Absolutely, gut bustingly hilarious. If only Deng Thiak Adut had spent time in the AusPol thread. He may have not only made a much more insightful speech, he also would have been able to make loving hilarious references to poo, and we could have all had a laugh during the best Australia Day speech ever.
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Bifauxnen posted:No one loving cares which Auspol blowhard is slightly more annoying than the other in each particular instance, get the gently caress over yourselves I'm saying more than "auspol is annoying". I'm saying that auspol's cynicism is actively damaging.
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Amethyst posted:I'm saying more than "auspol is annoying". I'm saying that auspol's cynicism is actively damaging. For the record I think you're on the good side of this one, but Jesus Christ can you guys just stop drawing out each individual slight into 3 loving pages
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Bifauxnen posted:For the record I think you're on the good side of this one, but Jesus Christ can you guys just stop drawing out each individual slight into 3 loving pages
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I thought it was a good speech, it does highlight that a lot of people who are "refugees" or "boat people" actually have suffered through a lot and we should therefore be more inclusive and sensitive to the plight of those less fortunate. However, I'm worried that this person will be painted as "a good refugee" or something, as opposed to "drat boat people" so yeah
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I have to appoint a philosophical receiver to liquify my philosophical assets due to my philosophical bankruptcy. Who wants my solipsism?
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hooman posted:I have to appoint a philosophical receiver to liquify my philosophical assets due to my philosophical bankruptcy. If "philosophically bankrupt" sounds like a weird out there phrase that only weirdos would use you need to read more books. I'd like to put it in a less pretentious sounding way but I can't, this is the plain truth.
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