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Kiggles
Dec 30, 2007

ShadowMar posted:

are there any side quests i should do in NG+ or should i just beeline it to post-game, it's been a while since i did a NG+ run

Aside from Escorting Madeliene from Cassardis to the encampment, and giving her a "loan" once at the encampment, I don't think so. You probably want to avoid visiting her shop once you start deny salvation, or there abouts. Else you will start a side-quest, and if you don't finish it she is gone from post-game. Additionally, if you DO complete it she'll be dropped off in Cassardis. However, if you don't even get it started she'll return in post-game to Gran Soren.

Otherwise, there's just saving Reynard along the way.

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ShadowMar
Mar 2, 2010

HERE IS A
GRAVEYARD
OF YOU!


Kiggles posted:

Madeleine stuff

i thought you only needed chasing shadows done for her to set up shop and then she'll just have the same inventory you had last game

Kiggles
Dec 30, 2007

ShadowMar posted:

i thought you only needed chasing shadows done for her to set up shop and then she'll just have the same inventory you had last game

Skip the escort it and find out. I rarely buy anything from here anyway, so worst case you're not in a bad spot, like losing Fourneval.

Crimson Harvest
Jul 14, 2004

I'm a GENERAL, not some opera floozy!
Which one of you nerds made Gabe N. He's the best.

Nemesis Of Moles
Jul 25, 2007

Kiggles posted:

Skip the escort it and find out. I rarely buy anything from here anyway, so worst case you're not in a bad spot, like losing Fourneval.

You only need to do Chasing shadows.

ShadowMar
Mar 2, 2010

HERE IS A
GRAVEYARD
OF YOU!


cool. thanks for the tips, friends.

Kiggles
Dec 30, 2007
Someone get on a plink away at Ur-dragon. I've been having a go at the thing every so often for the last four hours, and it literally seems like no one else is even fighting the stupid bastard. I know how the system works, but hot poo poo, after five tries over the afternoon and the first health bar is barely gone.

Lunimeow
Oct 6, 2012

Shaken, not purred.
Welp, I hired my friends pawns for 4 hours today did a bunch of quests and sent them back with gear again and gave them each a king bay leaf. Both of them got stones and none of the gear..

A Real Happy Camper
Dec 11, 2007

These children have taught me how to believe.
If you give a pawn too many items, it will replace it with just a stone. it's so you dont just dump bitterblack endgame gear on a new character you have on a separate account.

lurksion
Mar 21, 2013

Lunimeow posted:

Welp, I hired my friends pawns for 4 hours today did a bunch of quests and sent them back with gear again and gave them each a king bay leaf. Both of them got stones and none of the gear..
Yeah, I really hope they sort out the pawn hiring issue for those of us that are still having issues. :(

Also, can I get a group invite? Since it appears my pawn is invisible to the main search feature (as in actually unsearchable), want to get in on the potential pawn sharing.

lurksion fucked around with this message at 21:54 on May 18, 2018

Your Moms Ahegao
Sep 3, 2008

On my way to cheese Daimon with a bunch of Periapts and Blast Arrows, ran into 3 Living Armors, 2 Eliminators, and then Death showed up all at once in the narrow ridge.

So I just turned around and was like...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ0J0g9mBZ4

Emong
May 31, 2011

perpair to be annihilated




Hmm, I wonder what happened...

Also, super massive spoilers: I'm pretty pleased with my choice to swap out my pawn's headgear before doing the ending.

Opposing Farce
Apr 1, 2010

Ever since our drop-off service, I never read a book.
There's always something else around, plus I owe the library nineteen bucks.

Kiggles posted:

Someone get on a plink away at Ur-dragon. I've been having a go at the thing every so often for the last four hours, and it literally seems like no one else is even fighting the stupid bastard. I know how the system works, but hot poo poo, after five tries over the afternoon and the first health bar is barely gone.

I've seen some speculation that something's gone wrong server-side because it seems like his health bar basically hasn't moved all day.

Vargs
Mar 27, 2010

Never bothered with a Leaping Stone/Skull Splitter strider until just now. Decided to give it a try since I got a ring that upgrades both of those skills when I did my BBI Ring of Perseverance run at the beginning of the game.

Level 55, working on the Everfall at the moment, and oh my god; I may need to stop using these skills because they are pretty much broken. That room with 2 gorechimeras, a lich, and a bunch of hellhounds that's normally a nightmare? Done in around 30 seconds. The archydra ? Maybe a minute. Nothing stands a chance against this Sonic the Hedgehog bullshit.

Morbidmind
Feb 24, 2013
Since hitting gen 18 the Ur-Dragons health has kept resetting to full today. I've been fighting him on and off for hours, and am dealing significantly less damage then the previous generations. Then, when I come back to see how the progress is, he's back to 10 dots of health. I'm fairly certain its bugged currently, as there is no way he shouldn't have lost a few dots throughout the course of today.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
So I finally got my mystic knight setup because Grand Cannon looked cool.

Uh...I didn't realize it was a set-up spell and lasts like 10 seconds. And the damage isn't that great. Did I make a major mistake?

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Strider has a skill that lets you kickflip up off of stuff, according to its description.

Can I do a mad kickflip off a guy's face and then helmsplitter him for maximum sonic bullshit? This will determine if I spend 3500 points on that skill.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Tae posted:

So I finally got my mystic knight setup because Grand Cannon looked cool.

Uh...I didn't realize it was a set-up spell and lasts like 10 seconds. And the damage isn't that great. Did I make a major mistake?

No, its one of the most potent damage sources in the game.

The trick is that it takes on whatever element you're buffed with, any damage triggers it, and you can have multiple out at the same time.


put down a ruinous sigil and two cannons and lure a boss over. it'll die basically instantly.

Or summon two and be a literal artillery turret.


Also make sure to use good use of your Magick Shield buffs! Fire in the main game, Lighting in Bitterblack and Holy for select fights (ie. Cursed Dragons, Bitterblack bosses) will make mincemeat of basically everything.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Do Vocations max out? At what point should you switch?

Which Vocation has skills that you can do while grappling.

Emong
May 31, 2011

perpair to be annihilated


Turtlicious posted:

Do Vocations max out? At what point should you switch?

Which Vocation has skills that you can do while grappling.

They max at 9 ranks. Switch out whenever you want.

All the dagger classes can use Scarlet/Hundred/Thousand Kisses while climbing, and Assassin has Gouge/Dire Gouge/Deadly Gouge they can use with swords.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

Tae posted:

So I finally got my mystic knight setup because Grand Cannon looked cool.

Uh...I didn't realize it was a set-up spell and lasts like 10 seconds. And the damage isn't that great. Did I make a major mistake?

You can summon as many as you want at a time, so summon 3 or so right in the same spot and then go to town on them. Since they're basically on top of each other all of your swings will hit all 3 of them.

Kiggles
Dec 30, 2007

Vargs posted:

Never bothered with a Leaping Stone/Skull Splitter strider until just now. Decided to give it a try since I got a ring that upgrades both of those skills when I did my BBI Ring of Perseverance run at the beginning of the game.

Level 55, working on the Everfall at the moment, and oh my god; I may need to stop using these skills because they are pretty much broken. That room with 2 gorechimeras, a lich, and a bunch of hellhounds that's normally a nightmare? Done in around 30 seconds. The archydra ? Maybe a minute. Nothing stands a chance against this Sonic the Hedgehog bullshit.

Yeah, Skull/Brain Splitter is like the single fastest damage option in the game. It varies in usefulness from enemy to enemy, so it isn't always the best tool. It just happens to frequently be the best tool.

Vargs
Mar 27, 2010

Emong posted:

They max at 9 ranks. Switch out whenever you want.

All the dagger classes can use Scarlet/Hundred/Thousand Kisses while climbing, and Assassin has Gouge/Dire Gouge/Deadly Gouge they can use with swords.

Also worth mentioning that Striders naturally climb faster than any other vocation. Game doesn't mention this anywhere, but it's cool and useful.

Colapops
Nov 21, 2007

This game has some goofy facial expressions.






Lunimeow
Oct 6, 2012

Shaken, not purred.
So I got tired of wearing work pants for the entire game, it's the only gear i haven't updated, and well this thong is amusing I don't think it fits my style.

Anyone have some ideas of pants (the clothes) that would look good with this outfit?

Kiggles
Dec 30, 2007

Lunimeow posted:

So I got tired of wearing work pants for the entire game, it's the only gear i haven't updated, and well this thong is amusing I don't think it fits my style.

Anyone have some ideas of pants (the clothes) that would look good with this outfit?

Evening tights? Yes, I am going to answer "Evening tights". The correct answer is always Evening tights.

NeurosisHead
Jul 22, 2007

NONONONONONONONONO

Emong posted:



Hmm, I wonder what happened...


Does that screen pop up automagically after you rest or do you have to do something? My pawn has a bunch of enemy knowledge for unknown enemies, but I've never had any summaries of rental history or received anything in about 36 hours played now.

cerebral
Oct 24, 2002

I need some help with my pawn, she gets used quite a bit, (Sadness from the movie Inside Out), but she's getting poor ratings as far as usefulness goes. Supporting me (level 43), she's been great, she has max mage and sorcerer ranks, Utilitarian, Challenger, and Mitigator. I've currently got her set up as a Sorcerer, but I've got a hodgepodge of spells on her because I was running around with another Sorcerer pawn and I made her spells mirror that one's spell list, to facilitate spell syncing (which seemed to work really well).

I'm guessing that people aren't happy with the spells I've got on her, any suggestions on how I can make her more useful when she's being rented out?

Delacroix
Dec 7, 2010

:munch:

Trapezium Dave posted:

Do pawns learn how to use Instant Reset? I'm playing with the Arisen and Main Pawn having the same vocation and skills to see what the AI does, but it's hard to notice something like a pawn using Instant Reset in a battle.

My ranger pawn has instant reset and they break out of being staggered or dodge rolling all the time. I don't use it (clairvoyance/masterful kill :black101:) so they have some knowledge on how it works. It's noticeable if their AI makes them focus on ranged attacks and back off when enemies approach them.

Kiggles
Dec 30, 2007

cerebral posted:

I need some help with my pawn, she gets used quite a bit, (Sadness from the movie Inside Out), but she's getting poor ratings as far as usefulness goes. Supporting me (level 43), she's been great, she has max mage and sorcerer ranks, Utilitarian, Challenger, and Mitigator. I've currently got her set up as a Sorcerer, but I've got a hodgepodge of spells on her because I was running around with another Sorcerer pawn and I made her spells mirror that one's spell list, to facilitate spell syncing (which seemed to work really well).

I'm guessing that people aren't happy with the spells I've got on her, any suggestions on how I can make her more useful when she's being rented out?

Sorcerer? Give her Miasma. That's about it.

If you have Maelstrome, try removing it. Some people are just retarded and hire pawns without realizing what the spells are, then vote you down because it turns out loving awesome spells can have some draw backs.

Otherwise, people may not realize utilitarian Sorcs tend to wait and watch, which only really works if you're stacking sorcs for the sync casting. Just stick with it. You'll get some more hires as your level goes up from people looking to stack utilitarian sorcerers.

Mailer
Nov 4, 2009

Have you accepted The Void as your lord and savior?
The game crashing whenever it's idle for 40 minutes or so is putting a serious dent in vocation farming. I just want to be a ranger so I can whack Death, you stupid game. :argh:

Suspicious Cook
Oct 9, 2012

Onward to burgers!

Nemesis Of Moles posted:

You only need to do Chasing shadows.

Be careful not to fail this quest. You only get one chance.

I'm sorry, Madeline. I didn't mean to force you to stand in the inn forever. :(

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

Suspicious Cook posted:

Be careful not to fail this quest. You only get one chance.

I'm sorry, Madeline. I didn't mean to force you to stand in the inn forever. :(

? If you get caught you can just try again the next night.

Koala Cola
Dec 21, 2005

I am the stone that the builder refused...

Genocyber posted:

? If you get caught you can just try again the next night.

I wasn't able to re do the quest when I was spotted.

Koala Cola
Dec 21, 2005

I am the stone that the builder refused...

Morbidmind posted:

Since hitting gen 18 the Ur-Dragons health has kept resetting to full today. I've been fighting him on and off for hours, and am dealing significantly less damage then the previous generations. Then, when I come back to see how the progress is, he's back to 10 dots of health. I'm fairly certain its bugged currently, as there is no way he shouldn't have lost a few dots throughout the course of today.

I thought I read something about hackers just annihilating him constantly on the PC version

Morbidmind
Feb 24, 2013

Apparition posted:

I thought I read something about hackers just annihilating him constantly on the PC version

While its certainly possible hackers were contributing to the quick kills we've been getting, he also isn't that tough to start off. I could burn 1.5-2 bars of health up till gen 18 in a fight, now his health barely moves. No idea if this is just a really defense heavy spawn or if it is bugged.

neosloth
Sep 5, 2013

Professional Procrastinator
Is the modding process documented in any way? I want to replace all the battle music with the MGR:Revengeance soundtrack


Nevermind, the music tracks are just ogg files. Now I need to find all the battle tracks

neosloth fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Jan 22, 2016

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

Lmao I did the second salvation quest and the boss man at the end was dead before I even figured out what was going on, it was nothing but insane magic particle effects and then suddenly victory.

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 12 days!

Control Volume posted:

Lmao I did the second salvation quest and the boss man at the end was dead before I even figured out what was going on, it was nothing but insane magic particle effects and then suddenly victory.

He spawned with half a health bar for me, so uhhh :rip: I guess

Also I threw a bottle of oil at a griffin and then arc of might-ed it right in its loving face with my fire enchanted warhammer



:black101: rules of naaaaatuuuuuuure :black101:

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A Real Happy Camper
Dec 11, 2007

These children have taught me how to believe.
Every boss with less than two health bars just melts instantly, it's super silly.

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