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The Dark One: Aug 19, 2005; I'm your friend and I'm not going to just stand by and let you do this!

In these moments of pain and tension, let us bond over the fact that Canadians from every region have the capacity to be extremely poo poo:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/steve-smith-spaniards-bay-1.3416539

# ? Jan 23, 2016 03:06

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# ? May 14, 2024 11:17

Chicken: Apr 23, 2014

jm20 posted:

You're overthinking this. It is a community of 3000 with no access by road, Ofcourse information will be much less forthcoming then the us market where every affiliate news station has a helicopter and police scanners.

La Loche has road access. It's a pretty lovely road but it actually keeps going a few hundred kilometres north to some diamond mine or something.

It's a sad situation. Northern Saskatchewan is incredibly poor and disadvantaged. There's lots of natural resources but all the mines would rather fly in people from Saskatoon than have locals work there.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 03:32

PoizenJam: Dec 2, 2006; Damn!!!
It's PoizenJam!!!

The Dark One posted:

In these moments of pain and tension, let us bond over the fact that Canadians from every region have the capacity to be extremely poo poo:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/steve-smith-spaniards-bay-1.3416539

Oh God gently caress this story so hard and the ignorant baywop fucks marching their children out in support of a man's right to harass women with hardcore pornography in the workplace.

I can't believe I made it out of the bay without becoming a homophobic, sexist redneck gently caress.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 05:00

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

Cangoons, who wants to live out their charlie chocolate factory drug addled hullucinations?

Leroy Diplowski posted:

Wanted to get up to karakoe, but work went a little late and I was tired. Hopefully ya'll do another one before I head back to the states.

speaking of which...

We are looking for apprentice candymakers in the Surrey, BC area. You need to have full availability. Pay is going to start in the ballpark of $12/hr. You will need to sign an NDA. I think that we are going to have two fulltime positions open. We are looking for someone who is interested in sticking around at least a year.

Candymaking is a rewarding and fun job, but it can also be physically demanding. Kitchen experience is preferred, but not required. Job starts immediately

e-mail wes@raleysconfectionary.com with cover letter and resume.

Feel free to pass this around to any friends/relatives who aren't total chucklefucks.

Yes you chucklefucks $8 USD/hour lol.

it's artisanal~~~

http://raleysconfectionary.com/

# ? Jan 23, 2016 05:49

HookShot: Dec 26, 2005

Cultural Imperial posted:

Cangoons, who wants to live out their charlie chocolate factory drug addled hullucinations?

Yes you chucklefucks $8 USD/hour lol.

it's artisanal~~~

http://raleysconfectionary.com/

Canadian manufacturing is back, baby!

# ? Jan 23, 2016 06:10

ductonius: Apr 9, 2007; I heard there's a cream for that...

Chicken posted:

There's lots of natural resources but all the mines would rather fly in people from anywhere in the rest of Canada than have locals work there.

FTFY. I knew a buyer for a mine in Sask. She lived in Prince George, BC. They flew her out monthly to work.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 06:19

Newfie: Oct 8, 2013; 10 years of oil boom and 20 billion dollars cash, all I got was a case of beer, a pack of smokes, and 14% unemployment.
Thanks, Danny.

JVNO posted:

Oh God gently caress this story so hard and the ignorant baywop fucks marching their children out in support of a man's right to harass women with hardcore pornography in the workplace.

I can't believe I made it out of the bay without becoming a homophobic, sexist redneck gently caress.

Yeah, this whole thing has been pretty nightmarish to watch unfold.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 06:24

PoizenJam: Dec 2, 2006; Damn!!!
It's PoizenJam!!!

Seriously I am never moving back to the shithole that is most of rural Newfoundland (or rural anywhere, really). I will not subject any of my hypothetical future children to that kind of culture.

But my primary avenues of employment are government work and academia so thankfully I'll be staying far away from rural communities for the forseeable future. I have been having some fun relentlessly mocking the supporters on CBC Newfoundland and Labrador tho.

Edit: A lot of people are trotting out the standard 'PC gone mad!' and oversensitivity arguments so I've had some good luck turning the tables and essentially asking if these men are too sensitive to be told they're being unprofessional.

PoizenJam fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Jan 23, 2016

# ? Jan 23, 2016 06:30

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

I can't wait to hear Tony Clement beseech prime minister selfie to bring back the long gun registry.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 06:35

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Well, whaddya know, maybe we should've been supporting the RCMP in their mission of community policing all along! It's almost as if crimes, and serious crimes at that, can happen in places too small to fund their own police force...

# ? Jan 23, 2016 06:57

Lassitude: Oct 21, 2003

Yeah, we should definitely give the idiots in the RCMP more money because once every 150 years some random moron in Buttfuck, Sask might shoot 4 people with a rifle. That's definitely something the RCMP could reasonably be expected to stop in between their busy schedule of entrapping drug addicts.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 10:00

tagesschau: Sep 1, 2006; Guten Abend, meine Damen und Herren.

Helsing posted:

If you just throw up some cheaply built towers and overload the local neighborhood without planning a commensurate expansion of transit and proper zoning to ensure local stores and jobs then you can end up with an urban planning disaster on your hands.

See also: St. James Town and (in the future) Liberty Village.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 13:53

Rime: Nov 2, 2011; by Games Forum

The Dark One posted:

In these moments of pain and tension, let us bond over the fact that Canadians from every region have the capacity to be extremely poo poo:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/steve-smith-spaniards-bay-1.3416539

You should see the /r/canada comments defending the "tradition" of "ballbusting" in the workplace as a "way to foster closer bonds in a stressful job". :barf:

PT6A posted:

Well, whaddya know, maybe we should've been supporting the RCMP in their mission of community policing all along! It's almost as if crimes, and serious crimes at that, can happen in places too small to fund their own police force...

You're not familiar with the history of the RCMP when it comes to remote first nations communities like this, are you. Here's some good perspective on what life is like up there.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 14:39

Heavy neutrino: Sep 16, 2007; You made a fine post for yourself. ...For a casualry, I suppose.

I hope you guys are all ready to celebrate our annual post-Davos rear end-reaming. Place your bets on how much hardship will be placed on the working class this year!

# ? Jan 23, 2016 15:27

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

You mean the 120k year, snowmobile, atv, lifted douche truck working class who bought it all on a heloc? Sorry, gently caress em

# ? Jan 23, 2016 15:36

RBC: Nov 23, 2007; IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888

drat those rich workers, living it up at my expense!!!!

# ? Jan 23, 2016 17:30

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

More like drat those spendthrifts blowing their earnings on consumer garbage instead of a sensible retirement plan and also a little fun, then coming crying to us when their gravy boat sails away.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 17:39

RBC: Nov 23, 2007; IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888

flakeloaf posted:

More like drat those spendthrifts blowing their earnings on consumer garbage instead of a sensible retirement plan and also a little fun, then coming crying to us when their gravy boat sails away.

Hmm yes this seems like a uniquely working class issue!!! drat them to hell!!

# ? Jan 23, 2016 17:41

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

In all seriousness though, financial illiteracy is a huge problem (not that the absence of a meaningful living wage, affordable housing and sensible sex ed aren't also big parts of why the poor stay poor) and I'm astonished that we can "graduate" from our government-mandated education system without knowing how to file taxes or start an RRSP. If you've been poor your whole life and you suddenly wind up with a six-figure job and buckets of cash, of course you're going to spend it on stupid bullshit like truck nutz and a coke habit.

It's still a situation entirely of their own making and I have little sympathy for people in that state, but on the other hand we could do more to impress upon people just how important it is to plan a proper future for yourself with what you have and to use windfalls responsibly

# ? Jan 23, 2016 17:44

Helsing: Aug 23, 2003; DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU JOE BIDEN

The person who cleaned your office, cashed you out at the store, served your drink, picked your fruit, harvested your wheat, pumped your gas, moved your sofa or cleaned your dishes at the restaurant probably makes less than 25k a year. The median income in Canada for a single person is about 28,000, most of which goes to monthly expenses like rent, food and utilities. Even the average real estate agents or lawyers in big cities tend to start out making 60-80k, if that.

Also the poor stay poor because that's a structural requirement of the economy. Financial literacy and family planning can help some individuals escape poverty but it's not going to change the fact our economy has a low rate of productivity, or that our businesses aren't innovative, or that Canada increasingly relies on selling raw resources instead of technology or manufactured goods.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 18:03

RBC: Nov 23, 2007; IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888

I think the people that are poor are way better at managing money and budgeting than a white collar worker that has made a ton of money for their entire lives and never has to actually budget and make choices like, groceries or rent, frankly.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 19:30

Femtosecond: Aug 2, 2003

Advance voting for the Mount Pleasant byelection starts today!

There's been basically zero coverage of this, probably because Vancouver print media is dying. The Tyee wrote an article though.

NDP Candidate Melanie Mark is a former official in the Office of the Representative for Children and Youth. If elected she would become BC's first First Nations MLA. She seems focused on advocating for affordable housing (for the actual needy not the #donthave1million crowd).

The Liberals are putting forward Gavin Dew, whose youth is unfortunately not an indicator of a fresh perspective. He's a backroom political organizer that has worked with the Conservatives. In the CBC radio interview I listened to, he closely followed the party line and offered no unique ideas. Given the rapid demographic changes undergoing in Mount Pleasant (Hootsuite, condos and hipsters), it seems like there'd be an opportunity for the pro-free market BC Liberals to make some gains and get a foot in the door with the right candidate. I can't see that happening under Dew.

After a failed bid to get on Vancouver Council, Pete Fry is running for the Greens. Fry is chair of the Strathcona Residents Association and he's pretty well known. He seems to run for everything that comes up, but the Green banner probably holds him back. He seems pretty knowledgable and has made no comments about wifi, so maybe he's a good protest vote for dissatisfied NDP supporters that want to send that party a message.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 20:13

Helsing: Aug 23, 2003; DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU JOE BIDEN

It begins:

quote:

Medical pot growers lobby Ottawa to shut down pot dispensaries

DANIEL LEBLANC
SMITHS FALLS, ONT. � The Globe and Mail
Published Thursday, Jan. 21, 2016 7:08PM EST
Last updated Thursday, Jan. 21, 2016 7:11PM EST

The biggest growers of medical marijuana in Canada want to be first in line when the market for recreational pot opens up, arguing that only they can guarantee a high-quality product that is securely distributed by mail.

The operators of the Canopy Growth Corp. and Tweed Marijuana Inc. want the federal government to shut down the pot dispensaries that are popping up around the country. Instead, they argue, the strictly regulated and licensed firms in the medical field should be the first ones allowed to provide marijuana to recreational users.

The new lobbying campaign is aimed at the top Liberal officials who will devise plans to legalize marijuana in Canada, mainly MP Bill Blair, the former Toronto police chief who is the Trudeau government�s point person on the file.

The firms want Canada to avoid the �wild west� system that exists in some U.S. states, and simply start by expanding the existing model that supplies medical marijuana across the country.

�If the government wants to introduce a controlled system, which they have said they would do, this � or something very similar to this � is the system they will follow,� said Mark Zekulin, president of Tweed Inc.

Located in Smith Falls, southwest of Ottawa, Tweed operates a large medical-marijuana facility in a former chocolate factory. The multimillion-dollar plant is part of a network of facilities owned by the publicly listed Canopy Growth Corp., including one in Mr. Blair�s Scarborough riding.

The CEO of Canopy Growth, Bruce Linton, said his firm produces about 25 per cent of Canada�s supply of medical marijuana.

The Tweed factory is surrounded by fences and razor wire, and includes a vault that can contain 15,000 kilograms of marijuana � worth about $150-million. The thousands of plants in the facility are carefully nurtured, grown without pesticides, slowly dried and tested before being shipped by mail to clients.

Each shipment of marijuana offers a precise percentage of THC and CBDs, the chemicals that offer a buzz but also medical benefits to users.

Mr. Zekulin said recreational users of marijuana deserve the same level of quality as medical users, given the Liberal government�s promise to �legalize, regulate and restrict access� to the drug.

�If you accept as a starting point that you should have secure production, traceability, and keeping it away from criminal elements and out of the hands of children, then you can�t have unregulated shops opening on street corners all over the country where the regulation is, basically, �Trust me,�� he said.

Canopy Growth has been working since December with lobbyists from Ensight Canada to persuade the government to start the production of recreational marijuana along the same lines as medical marijuana.

They propose that marijuana be sold to adults who are at least 19 years old, arguing that Canada Post, with its ability to check the age of its clients, should be the first distributor. Over time, according to this proposal, the sale of recreational marijuana could be expanded to provincially regulated outlets that already sell alcohol.

The proposal would limit production of legal marijuana to large facilities, leaving out small shops such as the ones in Colorado that sell their own products.

�In Colorado, they started off with a really open system, and now they are looking for ways to contract the system, based on lessons learned,� Mr. Zekulin said. �We don�t have to go through that process. We can move incrementally and then expand the system.�

Tweed Inc. has plenty of room to expand. The current facility has 12 grow rooms, and the capacity to add another 18. The firm sells its medical product � made up of dried flowers or �buds� � for $6 to $12 a gram. It is working to obtain a licence from Health Canada to sell cannabis oil, which is easier to use for many patients.

Under rules designed by the Conservative government, mail is the only legal way to obtain medical marijuana from one of 27 producers that have been licensed by Health Canada.

Federal Health Minister Jane Philpott said on Thursday in Vancouver that mailing recreational marijuana will remain illegal until the legislation changes.

Jamie Shaw, president of the Canadian Association of Medical Cannabis Dispensaries trade organization, said illegal storefront sales of marijuana have bloomed because the medical-marijuana system �needs to be fixed.�

�If you can prove that there�s a better model for patients, and the public at large, than dispensaries, then great we would have to look at that and support that,� said Ms. Shaw, who works for Canada�s oldest dispensary based in Vancouver.

Under rules designed by the Conservative government, mail is the only legal way to obtain medical marijuana from one of 27 producers that have been licensed by Health Canada.

There are roughly 500,000 medical-cannabis users in Canada over the age of 25, according to a survey commissioned by Health Canada. Fewer than 37,000 people were registered under the federal government�s mail-order medical pot system at the end of last November.

That mean illegal dispensaries and compassion clubs are likely supplying between 100,000 and 200,000 patients, while a remaining 300,000 or so people use the black market, cannabis consultant Eric Nash told The Globe late last year.

Ms. Shaw said she could see licensed producers mailing products, both recreational and medicinal, to those in rural areas under-served by dispensaries.

�The reason we�re behind this dispensary model in the first place is because that is the best model that we�ve got to date,� she said.

With a report from Mike Hager in Vancouver.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 20:28

Jordan7hm: Feb 17, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

quote:

15,000 kilograms of marijuana � worth about $150-million

Tell me more.

e: maybe we should get the hell's angels to handle marijuana distribution. really let the free market take over on this one.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 21:09

cougar cub: Jun 28, 2004

Chicken posted:

La Loche has road access. It's a pretty lovely road but it actually keeps going a few hundred kilometres north to some diamond mine or something.

It's a sad situation. Northern Saskatchewan is incredibly poor and disadvantaged. There's lots of natural resources but all the mines would rather fly in people from Saskatoon than have locals work there.

How much experience do you have trying to employ people from small communities in Northern SK?

# ? Jan 23, 2016 21:21

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

Jordan7hm posted:

Tell me more.

e: maybe we should get the hell's angels to handle marijuana distribution. really let the free market take over on this one.

I thought that was the HA price.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 21:34

Demon_Corsair: Mar 22, 2004; Goodbye stealing souls, hello stealing booty.

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They propose that marijuana be sold to adults who are at least 19 years old, arguing that Canada Post, with its ability to check the age of its clients, should be the first distributor.
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I could get behind this part. Instead of selling dumb commemorative coins they could just sell weed instead. All of a sudden their budget woes go away and you are creating good union jobs.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 22:36

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

Oh dear conflict between big weed and small business owners like the ha. The most fascinating public policy topic in the world

# ? Jan 23, 2016 22:36

Jordan7hm: Feb 17, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

flakeloaf posted:

I thought that was the HA price.

Even by the gram it barely works out. Those are 10,000$ kilos.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 22:40

RBC: Nov 23, 2007; IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888

Demon_Corsair posted:

I could get behind this part. Instead of selling dumb commemorative coins they could just sell weed instead. All of a sudden their budget woes go away and you are creating good union jobs.

It's just mail order like anything else. Lots of medical and non medical weed is already moving through the postal system.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 22:43

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

# ? Jan 24, 2016 00:01

cheese sandwich: Feb 9, 2009

I wonder if saanich-gulf islands cares that she's spending her time butting in on issues across the country at a different level of government instead of representing them

# ? Jan 24, 2016 00:07

Helsing: Aug 23, 2003; DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU JOE BIDEN

quote:

The TPP Hands Control Over Trade To The World's Wealthiest

If there is someone who knows about plutocrats, it is Chrystia Freeland, Canada�s international trade minister responsible for deciding what to do about the TPP, the foremost international agreement among plutocrats. She has been to the parties and observed the richest one per cent in their natural setting, with their superstar interior designers, cooks and fashion designers.

As a financial journalist, she wrote a book, Plutocrats: the Rise of the New Global Super-Rich and the Fall of Everyone Else. In it, she recognizes the losses that have occurred under globalization.

She writes, �The distributional impact is, in the terms of art used by economists, to polarize the labour market: there are better and more highly paid jobs at the top, not much change for the low-skill, low-income jobs at the bottom, but a hollowing out of the jobs in the middle, which used to provide the paycheques for the American middle class.� She interviews Nobel economics laureate Joseph Stiglitz, who opposes the TPP and echoes his arguments about free trade�s dangers to the average worker.

She echoes his concerns about the rules being set in the interests of the super-rich. �Trying to slant the rules of the game in your favour isn�t an aberration, it�s what all businesses seek to do. It is all about whether your society has the right rules and policing able to enforce them.�

But her statements as a minister have been confusing. Now, she is saying that free trade is the key to middle-class prosperity and that opposing trade agreements is wrong-headed.

Perplexed, I asked her about this during a visit she made to the Universit� de Montr�al. The TPP sounds like the type of plutocratic agreement she would oppose: carved out in secret between the corporations of the world. In the U.S., more than 600 corporate lobbyists had access to the text during the negotiations, for example, while the U.S. Congress and Canadian Parliament did not. Advocacy group Open Media obtained a non-disclosure agreement for a group of people consulted in secret by the Canadian government on the TPP. Environmental groups were not consulted, nor were labour unions or citizens� groups. In fact, those who did have access to the agreement could be arrested for revealing the information.

As Stiglitz says about the TPP, �Obama has sought to perpetuate business as usual, whereby the rules governing global trade and investment are written by U.S. corporations for U.S. corporations. This should be unacceptable to anyone committed to democratic principles.�

Like Obama, Freeland claims to be concerned about income inequality but then advocates for the very instruments that will exacerbate the problem.

Let�s look at the TPP itself.

For starters, it has one glaring problem: ISDS, the investor-state dispute settlement provision that allows corporations to sue states over decisions that affect their future profits. This steel-trapped protection can also be found in NAFTA, the Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA), and 3,200 other agreements around the world. In a nutshell, by holding governments responsible for corporate risk, it makes taxpayers assume the financial burden that companies normally assume as part of being �entrepreneurs.�

Maude Barlow, chair of the Council of Canadians, has written about how ISDS kills environmental and social policy by forcing mammoth penalties on any country that attempts to ban fracking, or close a quarry, or regulate drugs, or that refuses to agree with a company on a patent, or that tries to establish an economic development program. Or that even raises the minimum wage.

The irony is that trade agreements lock in these rights for companies at the international level and can be binding because they are enforced. Very few other treaties benefit from such enforcement, whether the Paris climate agreement or international standards on labour, health or human trafficking. None of these are binding or enforceable.

ISDS has been the weapon of choice of plutocrats. A new study by Gus Van Harten, a scholar at the Osgoode Hall Law School in Toronto, found that ISDS was used by very large corporations and very wealthy individuals. Remember, these rights are for large foreign companies, not domestic companies, and certainly not for small or medium businesses or for ordinary citizens or civil society.

ISDS is also used to silence governments. Another study by Van Harten says that it doesn�t even take an ISDS challenge or the threat of an ISDS challenge to change policy. In interviews he held with Ontario policymakers, they reported that policy decisions would get delayed or shelved because of potential lawsuits. One lawyer reports that legislation is reviewed to see if it compatible with trade agreements, saying that �Chapter 11 [the ISDS clause in NAFTA] is the one that really bites.�

At the national level, we are seeing state sovereignty diminished. As ISDS challenges the ability of states to regulate, national standards and rules are harmonized downward in free trade treaties. This means we regulate for corporations at the international level and deregulate for the public interest at the national level.

When we look at the rest of the deal, we again see the public policy spaces of nations getting smaller and smaller, while the right to make profits gets bigger and bigger.

Other ways our public space is getting smaller:

--Higher drug costs: This trade deal adds them by extending pharmaceutical patents on new life-saving drugs. This has the double whammy effect of raising profits for pharmaceutical companies while making public health care less affordable for governments. Ironically, while free traders say they are eliminating protections to allow trade to be free, patents are protectionist measures granting monopolies to companies.

--Straight-jacketing of Crown Corporations: The TPP imposes restrictions on state-owned enterprises. Governments are not allowed to be �discriminatory� in their treatment of Canada Post or Ontario�s Hydro One. For example, no preferential loans, no marketing services, nothing that can give �an advantage� over a foreign company. In the past, state-owned enterprises have been used to implement energy strategy or fulfil public policy goals. No longer.

--Canada relinquishes control of its economy: Countries use macroeconomic instruments to influence their economy and public policy. In trade agreements and in TPP, these can be construed as barriers to trade. For example, Canada would have to cede a large part of its foreign investment screening regulations. These rules prevent domestic companies in strategic areas from being sold recklessly to foreign companies. The TPP will also open up the labour market to more temporary foreign workers serving with corporations from TPP countries.

--Local jobs at risk: Free trade agreements often attack buy-local programs. And the TPP is no different. Foreign companies have to have the same rights to public contracts. Often, this does not help create local jobs.

--More BGH milk on its way: Unlike the U.S., Canada prohibits the use of bovine growth hormones in milk production. Brent Patterson of the Council of Canadians warns that, with the TPP allowing more U.S. milk to cross the border, more milk will come in with BGH. In the TPP, a side letter mentions the need to conduct an assessment of equivalency between U.S. and Canadian regulations on in Grade A milk.

--Local food security threatened: In agriculture, our ability to protect our own food security by producing milk, poultry and eggs in Canada is being compromised by pressures on the supply management system. Free trade is eroding small-scale, lower-pesticide domestic production in favour of large-scale industrial global farming with serious consequences on human health and the environment.

--The downward slide in wages: There are no real safeguards for labour rights. In the TPP, countries have to have labour legislation, but this legislation can be sub-standard. Canadian workers will be directly in competition with workers in countries with minimal labour standards, like Malaysia, which has a reputation for human trafficking.

--More rights for polluters, more attacks on green energy: In environmental matters, ISDS cases are often brought forward by resource-extracting companies in the energy and mining sectors. Renewable energy programs have been targeted by ISDS challenges. The TPP will exclude us from managing or controlling our own resources, or even distinguishing between different energy forms. Climate change is not even mentioned in the TPP, according to the Sierra Club.

We know that the world�s top one per cent own more than 50 per cent of the world�s wealth. The ability to make policy and to enforce it at the national level is essential to combat the slide towards plutocracy, under which society is controlled by the wealthiest citizens. Mr. Obama and Ms. Freeland, please listen to your own rhetoric. Pull the plug on the TPP and CETA.

# ? Jan 24, 2016 00:07

Helsing: Aug 23, 2003; DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU JOE BIDEN

Slightly Toasted posted:

I wonder if saanich-gulf islands cares that she's spending her time butting in on issues across the country at a different level of government instead of representing them

Part of how I expect my MP to represent me is by commenting on issues of national importance like power. This is especially true for a party leader.

Her stance on Nuclear power is regrettable (though the NDP isn't much better) but I'm pretty sure the people who elected her knew what they were getting when they cast their ballots.

# ? Jan 24, 2016 00:09

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Calling yourself an environmentalist and then being against the development of nuclear power is really the height of stupidity. gently caress Elizabeth May and her obviously-brain-damaged supporters.

The NDP's stance is regrettable, but it makes more sense because nuclear energy is politically unpalatable and expensive, but the hypocrisy shown by the Green Party as a result of their stance, when their entire raison d'etre is to bring attention to important environmental causes, sickens me.

# ? Jan 24, 2016 00:23

ocrumsprug: Sep 23, 2010; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Helsing posted:

Part of how I expect my MP to represent me is by commenting on issues of national importance like power. This is especially true for a party leader.

Her stance on Nuclear power is regrettable (though the NDP isn't much better) but I'm pretty sure the people who elected her knew what they were getting when they cast their ballots.

Ontario power specifics can hardly be considered a national issue.

# ? Jan 24, 2016 00:39

Postess with the Mostest: Apr 4, 2007; Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

Anti nuclear people think it is a global disaster waiting to happen, remember Suzuki talking about Fukushima radiation reaching Vancouver?

# ? Jan 24, 2016 00:43

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Ikantski posted:

Anti nuclear people think it is a global disaster waiting to happen, remember Suzuki talking about Fukushima radiation reaching Vancouver?

Instead we face the proliferation of Samsung wind turbines. A Faustian bargain indeed.

# ? Jan 24, 2016 00:45

Helsing: Aug 23, 2003; DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU JOE BIDEN

It's always nice when an American recognizes the real pioneer of Donald Trump's campaign style:

quote:

Donald Trump says he could just kill a man�and he may be right.Speaking at Sioux City, Iowa, The Donald declared, �I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn�t lose any voters.� The context of the statement was a discussion of how loyal Trump�s voters are, compared to Ted Cruz�s supposedly soft support.

Could Trump be right? Toronto offers interesting evidence. Back in October of 2010, Doug Ford made similar comments about his brother Rob, then running for mayor: �Every single day I knock on doors and I tell Rob�they know you, they love you. Rob could commit murder on the steps of City Hall and they would still vote for him.� Rob Ford went on to become mayor of Toronto. He never did commit murder in broad daylight but did, infamously, get caught on tape smoking crack while making racists and sexist comments. A large chunk of his political base stuck with him. A cancer scare led Ford to drop out of his re-election campaign in 2014 but he did win a seat as city counsellor.

The Ford example leads to the obvious conclusion that Trump�s instincts are sound, and that the citizens of New York should stay away from Fifth Avenue.

# ? Jan 24, 2016 00:53

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# ? May 14, 2024 11:17

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

CSIS is in court asking that information about its role in radicalizing drug addicts be kept secret from the public.

# ? Jan 24, 2016 00:58

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