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Someone finally rented my old man pawn!  ...And gave him a two-star helpfulness rating. Fine, I guess I'll buy him some inclination potions.
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If a mage casts an enchantment spell like Ice Boon, does that only wipe over elemental effects? For example, if a strider has a set of daggers with fire and a poison bow, the daggers will now inflict ice but does the bow inflict just ice or also poison? edit: I'm debating the usefulness of mages at this stage regardless. The healing spells are nice but I've got enough cash to load up on loads of curatives and flasks now.
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Okay, so I'm in postgame Bitter Black Isle in (what I believe to be) endgame gear and I can't even hurt this fire drake. I'm a mystic knight and actually managed to buff up fully and lay down 3 grand cannons. No damage. I was hitting the heart, but again, no loving damage. This is the third time I've encountered crap like this happening and really only could get past it by popping four periapts until I got a better weapon. Am I somehow doing something grievously wrong? Since I'm going from being able to take entire life bars from Daimon if I'm left alone at all, to 0 damage. I can handle encountering poo poo that I deal significantly less damage to, but it's incredibly frustrating to run into something you simply do null damage to. edit: I'm frustrated as hell as you can tell. double edit: Said weapon I'm using is a silver forged ascalon and a gold forged purged bulwark. Pumpkinreaper fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Jan 23, 2016 |
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Trapezium Dave posted:If a mage casts an enchantment spell like Ice Boon, does that only wipe over elemental effects? For example, if a strider has a set of daggers with fire and a poison bow, the daggers will now inflict ice but does the bow inflict just ice or also poison? Buffs overwrite the magic damage and element native to a weapon, so if it already does elemental damage it'll only do the new element while buffed, and if the mage is too weak the damage amount may be lower as well. (non-elemental based) Debilitations on weapons are an entirely separate thing and are there whether the weapon is buffed or not.
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Jan 23, 2016 05:35
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Onmi posted:This is every duel quest so far, "We're going to have a duel, like men!" Bam, Bam, down. this is the one time where i think adding a bunch of extra health as difficulty would be good.
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Jan 23, 2016 05:35
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So I got myself thrown in jail for killing the guy that guards the jail. I looked up how to get out and it said I could bribe my way out. Is the guy I could bribe the one I just killed? Am I stuck in here for a while?
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Jan 23, 2016 05:38
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Pumpkinreaper posted:Okay, so I'm in postgame Bitter Black Isle in (what I believe to be) endgame gear and I can't even hurt this fire drake. I'm a mystic knight and actually managed to buff up fully and lay down 3 grand cannons. Firedrakes have the highest non-ur-dragon defense in the game, and ascalon isn't all that strong compared to BBI weapons. If you want enchanted stuff, there's a sword you can find in level 2 weapon drops, and the level 3 one does straight up twice the damage of ascalon. You need better gear.
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Jan 23, 2016 05:38
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Pumpkinreaper posted:No damage. I was hitting the heart, but again, no loving damage. This is the third time I've encountered crap like this happening and really only could get past it by popping four periapts until I got a better weapon. Am I somehow doing something grievously wrong? Since I'm going from being able to take entire life bars from Daimon if I'm left alone at all, to 0 damage. I can handle encountering poo poo that I deal significantly less damage to, but it's incredibly frustrating to run into something you simply do null damage to. You probably just don't have enough base strength/magic to pierce its defenses. This is where min/maxing comes in handy, or stacking Periaps. There's a reason Fournival sells an infinite amount at an astoundingly cheap price.
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pineapple3k posted:So I got myself thrown in jail for killing the guy that guards the jail. I looked up how to get out and it said I could bribe my way out. Is the guy I could bribe the one I just killed? Am I stuck in here for a while? you're stuck in there for 48 real time minutes
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Jan 23, 2016 05:42
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ShadowMar posted:this is the one time where i think adding a bunch of extra health as difficulty would be good. On the one hand, I'm glad they didn't make the solo fights incredibly hard so you'd burn through whatever healing items you had on hand for false difficulty. On the other hand, the current setup has no sense of tension and makes all your enemies look pathetic and inept. My favorite was the ring thief sorcerer that teleported off a cliff as soon as he was done talking. Unrelated note, is it possible to kill Feste before you're arrested? I got thrown in the dungeon just for picking him up. I originally planned to throw him off the castle walls.
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Jan 23, 2016 05:42
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ShadowMar posted:you're stuck in there for 48 real time minutes Hahaha drat, does the game pause when I alt tab?
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Genocyber posted:Buffs overwrite the magic damage and element native to a weapon, so if it already does elemental damage it'll only do the new element while buffed, and if the mage is too weak the damage amount may be lower as well. (non-elemental based) Debilitations on weapons are an entirely separate thing and are there whether the weapon is buffed or not. I'm sticking with Strider for the most part for both the Arisen and the main pawn so I'm assuming with their average stat growth that's a decent fit for elemental weapons.
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Jan 23, 2016 05:46
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pineapple3k posted:Hahaha drat, does the game pause when I alt tab? yup! hope you got something else to do that doesn't need that monitor.
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pineapple3k posted:Hahaha drat, does the game pause when I alt tab? Yep. You can get out with a skeleton key or a bribe. Dont kill the guard for the cells in the future or remember to bring a skeleton key.
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Jan 23, 2016 05:51
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Kiggles posted:It's split damage, but more importantly, Cursed Dragons are sort of considered 'end game' BBI creatures, so you're going to need to Silver Rarify that thing. I stopped trying to shoot it and just lamed things out by hopping on its chest like every other drake/dragon and killed it with no effort.
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Zore posted:Yep. You can get out with a skeleton key or a bribe. Dont kill the guard for the cells in the future or remember to bring a skeleton key. Yea, lesson learned, I had a key which I used to unlock the the cell with that guy in it, and realized I needed 2, so I just decided to try and murder my way out cause I only saw a few guards. But then that guy just ran back to his cell and a guard came running down the stairs to arrest me.
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So me and a bunch of my friends started playing around the same time, I'm the front runner on levels at 60, then I go to one of my other friends, "How's the Dogma going." "I'm Level 200, I'm pretty much just grinding out Daimon for a specific drop so I can take on the Ur-Dragon" loving How.
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pineapple3k posted:Yea, lesson learned, I had a key which I used to unlock the the cell with that guy in it, and realized I needed 2, so I just decided to try and murder my way out cause I only saw a few guards. But then that guy just ran back to his cell and a guard came running down the stairs to arrest me. Tip: theres a free key in both the locked cells that dont lead to the sirface. Just smash everything.
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Jan 23, 2016 06:10
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I noticed my sorceress tried to climb a chimera today. What do I need to get her to stop doing that again?
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So I beat a dragon and was hoping someone could help me figure out what the heck is going on with the story. Like what is happening and why? The Duke got real old and told everyone I was a dick and everyone tried killing me. Then a big rear end hole showed up that fell to the sky that fell back to the hole. What?
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Spikeguy posted:So I beat a dragon and was hoping someone could help me figure out what the heck is going on with the story. Like what is happening and why? The Duke got real old and told everyone I was a dick and everyone tried killing me. Then a big rear end hole showed up that fell to the sky that fell back to the hole. What? Baaaasically... the Duke was supposed to be this badass who slew the last Dragon, but he didn't, he just took the dragons bargain. Arisens are immortal until the dragon is slain, so what you see is time catching up to him when you do that. He's mostly angry cause you've shown him how much of a lovely coward turd he is. The everfall going nuts is a bit more hazy, I think by killing the dragon you kinda screw the world over until you start the cycle anew, which is what the whole wakestone everfall thing is about. I think, anyway, the plot of this game is kinda bananas
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Spikeguy posted:So I beat a dragon and was hoping someone could help me figure out what the heck is going on with the story. Like what is happening and why? The Duke got real old and told everyone I was a dick and everyone tried killing me. Then a big rear end hole showed up that fell to the sky that fell back to the hole. What? As Grigori informed you, the Duke didn't actually kill him; he made a bargain, sacrificing his own beloved, his pawn Lenore, thus becoming the duke of Gransys. When you killed Grigori he released his hold on all the hearts he had taken: yours, the Duke's, and the Dragonforged's. The Duke and the Dragonforged immediately aged to their proper ages, the Duke becoming an old man the Dragonforged becoming dust. Killing Grigori also caused the Everfall to open up, taking a good chunk of Gran Soren along with it. Perhaps if you explore it you'll find out the reason.
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Onmi posted:loving How. Outside of cheatengine it's entirely possible to rocket through levels once you know what you're doing. Periapts and Blast Arrows outright destroy things. It's not even optimal but I was using my normal route (obvious endgame BBI spoilers) to clear Daimon for huge exp in under five minutes from around level 100. It's doable earlier than that, too. Also, if he got in on early Ur farming, that was tons of easy experience.
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Spikeguy posted:So I beat a dragon and was hoping someone could help me figure out what the heck is going on with the story. Like what is happening and why? The Duke got real old and told everyone I was a dick and everyone tried killing me. Then a big rear end hole showed up that fell to the sky that fell back to the hole. What? The duke was a previous arisen, but took the dragon's bargain to give up his beloved in exchange for power. I think when your heart is taken you no longer age. So when you actually defeated the dragon and had your heart restored it did the same for every failed arisen and instantly aged them. So the Dragonforged guy was ancient and immediately disintegrated while the Duke was just a few decades older than he looked. The everfall is a nexus between worlds. There are multiple worlds each with a player character in it, when your pawn is rented in literally travels to a new world through the everfall. Do the new quest and things get weird.
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Spikeguy posted:So I beat a dragon and was hoping someone could help me figure out what the heck is going on with the story. Like what is happening and why? The Duke got real old and told everyone I was a dick and everyone tried killing me. Then a big rear end hole showed up that fell to the sky that fell back to the hole. What? The Duke was Arisen like you, and the dragon gave him the same choice you got, but he decided to kill his wife instead of fighting. The Duke is very old, but he doesn't look it because the dragon's magic was keeping him youthful; when you kill the dragon you dispell that magic and he reverts back to his true age. (This is also why the Dragonforged, who's super old, turns to dust.) Killing the dragon also opened up that big rear end hole, which is some kind of weird dimensional nexus that serves as your post-game superdungeon. If you go back through that door under the pawn guild, you'll find an NPC with a quest that'll lead you to the true ending.
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for like 90% of the game the plot is a non-issue aside from maybe the storyline of a cult trying to bring about the apocalypse by summoning the dragon and then when poo poo gets rolling it has nothing to do with anything anymore.
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Captain Novolin posted:for like 90% of the game the plot is a non-issue aside from maybe the storyline of a cult trying to bring about the apocalypse by summoning the dragon and then when poo poo gets rolling it has nothing to do with anything anymore. well it might've made a tiny bit more sense if it had played out as originally intended end game spoilers:  ...or maybe less
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ShadowMar posted:i honestly love how utterly bizarre the plot gets towards the end This is the other part of why I say it reminds me of a creative GM's first D&D campaign. I've seen this kind of thing happen in person during TTRPG games and it's always wonderful.
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i like how there's hints to the weird story poo poo spread throughout the game and you'll only be able to pick up on them if you know what to look for.
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 no cyclops don't you have so much to live for  noooooooo 
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Spikeguy posted:So I beat a dragon and was hoping someone could help me figure out what the heck is going on with the story. Like what is happening and why? The Duke got real old and told everyone I was a dick and everyone tried killing me. Then a big rear end hole showed up that fell to the sky that fell back to the hole. What? Already explained are some of the more obvious points, so I'll elaborate a bit on something more subtle with them in mind. -The Duke never got over taking the Dragon's bargain, and Aelinore looking so much like the one he sacrificed was a focus for his madness. On the one hand it was like he had Lenore back. On the other a remainder of his cowardice. -If you did the Arousing Suspicion quest the Duke calls Aelinore "Lenore". He isn't just slurring his speech, he's actually calling her Lenore. It's also a wonder why he would apparently be trying to kill her if he reminds him of his lost love, but speculation is he was frightened that if "Lenore" was still alive the Dragon's bargain would be null and would soon come for him. -Pawns would be able to identify him and somehow know he took the Dragon's bargain; he is still Arisen. Hence why they are not allowed into the Castle. -The Duke naturally doesn't want you to face the Dragon. He's pretty caught on his own failing to face his fear, so the whole Wyrm Hunt, and later quests are either meant as distraction, or to hopefully get you killed so that HIS bargain would remain in tact. -The above point becomes more obvious with the quest immediately preceding Deny Salvation. You are being tasked to go on a long journey where you are escorted to the treasury to be given provisions. You're not being prepared for a trip of great importance. You're basically being bribed to leave Gransys and forget about the Dragon. Just before you're to be sent off, word arrives regarding the cult Salvation, and I guess the Duke is concerned they may actually be able to provoke the Dragon or something. Some of this is speculation, but I appreciate it wasn't all in your face. If nothing else, it leaves the door open for the speculation. One thing the frustrates me more than anything are talking heads, so it's pretty nice when story telling is being done through quest design, rather than text. Keep going. There's still some more jRPG plot. It fits nice in the category of short-but-sweet, so while it kinda goes off the rails it doesn't go on the tangent for so long that it gets tired. Strangely, it feels right at home. Kiggles fucked around with this message at 07:40 on Jan 23, 2016 |
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They go straight to your storage.
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Kiggles posted:Already explained are some of the more obvious points, so I'll elaborate a bit on something more subtle with them in mind. i think lenore might have also been his pawn considering both sofiah and the dragonforged both still had selene and the fool with them but the duke's pawn is never seen or mentioned which would also add onto the "no pawns allowed" law. plus dark arisen showed that pawns could fall in love with an arisen.
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So I beat it, and that is another Capcom game that I got to end by kicking the poo poo out of God. I love doing that, like in Azura's Wrath Man that was pretty cool. I didn't do all the quests but I got my vocations up in each style. I think next time I'll explore every inch of the map. And hopefully they'll make a mod where your escorts will become immortal.
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End game/lore spoilersShadowMar posted:i think lenore might have also been his pawn considering both sofiah and the dragonforged both still had selene and the fool with them but the duke's pawn is never seen or mentioned which would also add onto the "no pawns allowed" law. plus dark arisen showed that pawns could fall in love with an arisen. Yeah, that's perfectly reasonable. I'm not sure I would go that far because I'm not sure how that point itself is relevant thematically, but there is no reason to think otherwise, and some good reasons for thinking that is the case. The precedent for pawns remaining with their arisen is established with no less three than three Arisen the Seneschel also still has his pawn.
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Spikeguy posted:So I beat it, and that is another Capcom game that I got to end by kicking the poo poo out of God. I love doing that, like in Azura's Wrath Man that was pretty cool. I didn't do all the quests but I got my vocations up in each style. I think next time I'll explore every inch of the map. And hopefully they'll make a mod where your escorts will become immortal. The secret is to either bring a ton of spring water (which is easy to get, just drop a portcrystal at a spring and bring as many empty flasks as you can afford/carry) or just have portcrystals at the escort locations and teleport there. I think all of them are either places where you have missions anyway, or are just good/useful places for one anyway.
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