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The Saddest Rhino posted:dullness.
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Jan 23, 2016 01:39
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If it wasn't dull you wouldn't really be getting the Rule of Rose experience, though. I mean I like the game as D-tier PS2 survival horror goes, but at no point is it fun or exciting.
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Jan 23, 2016 02:21
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Rule of Rose spoilers: it's all metaphors for past trauma that occured because of children being awful.
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Jan 23, 2016 06:57
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How come people hate homecoming so much? That's the one that brought me back to the series and I remember it being pretty alright until I went online and read that it was bad.
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Jan 23, 2016 09:27
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I think people didn't react well to the bait-and-switch element - A Silent Hill exploring wartime PTSD is a pretty neat idea but why bother with that when there are big twists to drop? I played Dead Space 3 recently and it's only really a horror game in the sense that characters die in pretty bad ways (as a straight action game, it was more of the same as DS2 but not as good - weapon crafting didn't add much). That said, the first quarter or so of the game is all about flying around in Zero G and exploring derelict spacecraft, and I really loved that - when Alien is your favorite movie, you become a sucker for haunted house spaceships. Maybe I should give System Shock 2 another run-through. I'd love something more current though. (Before you say anything, yeah I've played through Alien Isolation about twice and I'm salty that we'll never get a sequel). Basic Chunnel fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Jan 23, 2016 |
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Jan 23, 2016 11:09
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Sharzak posted:How come people hate homecoming so much? That's the one that brought me back to the series and I remember it being pretty alright until I went online and read that it was bad. Apart from just being a glitchy as gently caress game, the writing was pretty nonsensical and all over the place. Not to mention the combat and movement were a little too swift, and the characters too lucid, to capture the actual survival horror feeling. I feel a Silent Hill game is defined by its surreal, dreamlike atmosphere, where you stumble through increasingly hosed up environments solving obtuse puzzles, with clumsy combat punctuated with baffling cutscenes where the characters sort of talk past each other and don't properly address what's going on. Homecoming was too forward with its imagery, and characters too lucid and acknowledging of the otherworld and the events around them. Also, the cult plot point is widely considered one of the weaker aspects of the original series; Homecoming goes full-bore with it to the point of having totally ordinary human beings as enemies later on. SH4 and 0 are the only post-3 games that I feel actually capture some part of the original magic. 4 has some pretty spooky enemies and scare rooms evocative of SH3 (the hospital world is pretty good), and manages to keep that uncomfortable atmosphere while also tying up a few loose plot points. 0, while extremely bland, has a couple environments and scenes reminiscent of 2. Kite Pride Worldwide fucked around with this message at 12:31 on Jan 23, 2016 |
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Jan 23, 2016 12:27
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Silent Hill 4 was legitimately terrifying in spite of (and occasionally because of) some really bad design decisions. Spatial wrongness and claustrophobic environments are two of my hot buttons for horror, so that game probably had a better track record for scaring me shitless than any other I played. Downpour was the only one of the western SH's I thought was any good - it wasn't scary, at all, but at least tried to have some original ideas beyond aping the previous games or whatever the gently caress Sam Barlow thinks is clever.
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Jan 23, 2016 14:46
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I didn't find Silent Hill 4 scary but it is probably the weirdest and most surreal game in the series. The game feels as if it operates on dream logic and the environments, even though they can be quite brightly lit, just feels off and dreamlike. It's got a lot of bad design decisions and the entire second half of the game is a repeat of the first half but with an escort mission tacked on, but that too kind of adds to the nightmareish surreal nature of it all.
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Jan 23, 2016 15:10
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Speedball posted:There are a coup,e of Van Helsing games on Steam, but they're more like Diablo, I believe. I was weirdly into the Van Helsing tie-in PS2 game as teen. I keep wanting to go back and see if it was any good(probably not) but it's not on PSN for obvious reasons.
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Jan 23, 2016 16:56
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There were a handful of White Wolf Hunter games on PS2 that used a knockoff of the Snowblind engine. There was also a Buffy game on PS2 that was surprisingly well received by both fans and critics.
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Jan 23, 2016 18:15
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bloodborne is the best lovecraft adaptation there will ever be.
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Jan 23, 2016 18:48
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Groovelord Neato posted:bloodborne is the best lovecraft adaptation there will ever be. I'd say Dark Corners of the Earth, but Bloodborne is close second 
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Jan 23, 2016 19:07
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Captain Yossarian posted:I'd say Dark Corners of the Earth, but Bloodborne is close second Eternal Darkness.
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Jan 23, 2016 19:10
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Captain Yossarian posted:I'd say Dark Corners of the Earth, but Bloodborne is close second I didn't know that Lovecraft wrote so much about crashing
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Jan 23, 2016 19:12
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Improbable Lobster posted:I didn't know that Lovecraft wrote so much about crashing It runs fine on everything its on?
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Jan 23, 2016 19:19
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Captain Yossarian posted:It runs fine on everything its on?
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Jan 23, 2016 19:30
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Sharzak posted:How come people hate homecoming so much? That's the one that brought me back to the series and I remember it being pretty alright until I went online and read that it was bad. I really disliked the aesthetics - there was a shift from the offputting weirdness of 1-4 to a kind of more pedestrian horror vibe. It stole all the good visuals and ideas from the other games and the movie. I don't remember it being a particularly good game, either. It seemed kind of like a cheap, tacky imitation imo.
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Jan 23, 2016 20:37
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Basic Chunnel posted:Maybe I should give System Shock 2 another run-through. I'd love something more current though. (Before you say anything, yeah I've played through Alien Isolation about twice and I'm salty that we'll never get a sequel). While I've gotten more jaded and used to poo poo over time (complete reflex action bitch to jumpscares I even see coming aside), I'll always grant SS2 the fact it made me afraid of a certain early game enemies far more than any of the "scary" ones it had. It's definitely worth a look, and relatively cheap on GOG and STEAM these days so no big loss if you just drop it. It's still got plenty of cool atmosphere even if audio log voice acting can be "Video Game Voice Acting". Totally play on Normal or Easy though, because part of the difficulty increase is raising the costs of upgrades. And there is a bit where to progress you need to research some poo poo. They do give you some free cyber cookies to do so, but it's based on Normal costs. There are some tricks around it if I recall but you don't really need to add the extra hurdles to a first time playthrough. PS, love your wrench. PS part 2. Decide on a hoarder pile location. Most use the elevator, but I hedged my bets against glitches by having a collection scattered around the entire area by the first upgrade station, which isn't that far from the elevator anyways.
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Jan 23, 2016 20:38
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Yeah my first playthrough on System Shock 2 was on Hard, and while it was still fun, it is way easier to completely flub your game up if you spec poorly; and the higher upgrade costs mean you'll experience much less of what the game has to offer. Even for seasoned FPS veterans I can safely say you'll have more fun on Normal than on Hard, guaranteed.
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Jan 24, 2016 00:27
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Niggurath posted:Eh, it might run fine on console but it had some pretty glaring issues on PC. Namely there was a section where you had to shoot out lights with a cannon and said lights would just not appear on NVIDIA cards (like any NVIDIA cards which is super bad), which kinda blocked progression in the game unless you were great at guessing or downloaded a mod that just let you bypass that section. There was also the ending escape sequence which was shy of impossible due to them lowering the character's movement speed; so yet again you were either hosed at the ending, or you have to tweak game files to revert the character to the console running speed. It's not a great PC port but it's understandable as to why considering their dev team was super small and immediately closed after the game was released. I remember there being a lot of issues with both saving and stability though those might have either been patched out or fixed with a fan patch. The PC version is not great in many ways, which is too bad because it's a cool game.
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Jan 24, 2016 00:31
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Scarlet's level in Homecoming was awesome as hell. Good boss music too.
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Jan 24, 2016 00:38
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Niggurath posted:Eh, it might run fine on console but it had some pretty glaring issues on PC. Namely there was a section where you had to shoot out lights with a cannon and said lights would just not appear on NVIDIA cards (like any NVIDIA cards which is super bad), which kinda blocked progression in the game unless you were great at guessing or downloaded a mod that just let you bypass that section. There was also the ending escape sequence which was shy of impossible due to them lowering the character's movement speed; so yet again you were either hosed at the ending, or you have to tweak game files to revert the character to the console running speed. It's not a great PC port but it's understandable as to why considering their dev team was super small and immediately closed after the game was released. Weird I honestly never ran into those problems, although I played with that fan patch and etc. Another fun game I just thought of that is heavily Lovecraft themed- Sherlock Holmes the Awakened
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Jan 24, 2016 01:21
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A. Beaverhausen posted:Scarlet's level in Homecoming was awesome as hell. Good boss music too. It was definitely the coolest setpiece of Homecoming, but there were also only a grand total of around 3 enemies there and very little in the way of puzzles, diffusing the tension somewhat. The boss also sucked, even if the concept and music was good.
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Jan 24, 2016 01:34
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This is only indirectly related to horror, but I just beat FNaF World!   Well gee Scott you don't have to be such a dick about it
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Jan 24, 2016 19:16
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From what I've seen the hard mode ending isn't much better.
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Jan 24, 2016 22:18
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Wanton Spoon posted:This is only indirectly related to horror, but I just beat FNaF World! Wow, what an rear end in a top hat.
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Jan 24, 2016 22:56
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Wanton Spoon posted:This is only indirectly related to horror, but I just beat FNaF World! What does this mean about the Bite of 88
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Jan 24, 2016 23:12
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ayn rand hand job posted:What does this mean about the Bite of 88 Actually I think this fits into canon as the Burn of 16, oh snap! So how was FNaF world? Did it do anything interesting? I haven't been following it very closely but considering its namesake I was kinda expecting it to pull a Pony Island and go "You think this is a cute RPG but ACTUALLY IT'S HORROR AAAAAAA".
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Jan 24, 2016 23:53
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dijon du jour posted:Actually I think this fits into canon as the Burn of 16, oh snap! From what I can tell it's a cry for help from the creator, flat-out insulting his ravenous fanbase who will accept any bilge he shoves down their throats.
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Jan 24, 2016 23:55
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dijon du jour posted:Actually I think this fits into canon as the Burn of 16, oh snap! To be fair, I don't think I got the true ending, and I don't think getting the true ending depends on what difficulty level you play on. The "without taking any risks" bit is probably in direct reference to the fact that, in the game, you are explicitly told not to go through more than three glitch warp gates in a row, or else you'll be unable to find your way back, so I'm pretty sure something unusual happens if you manage to do that. I'm not in a hurry to figure out how to do it, though, because I'm pretty sure it will involve testing lots of walls to see if they're fake, and doing that means dealing with a lot more random battles. I DO want to do it eventually, though, and I may report back when I do (if you don't want to just look it up elsewhere). Outside of that, no, it really is just an RPG. And honestly, that's what I was expecting, because I've played Scott Cawthon's games outside the FNaF series, and that's just what he likes making. He likes making RPGs with really simple mechanics (think NES Dragon Quest) where the difficulty comes from the fact that turns play out in real time, very quickly, and it's sometimes hard to tell what's going on (like Final Fantasy XIII, if you had to manually select every attack). If you've played The Desolate Hope, Iffermoon, or Legacy of Flan 4, you've played FNaF World. It's what I was expecting, so I wasn't disappointed, but it's not something I'd recommend to most people. If you're curious, just play one of his free games first to see if you like them. Really, though, the original FNaF had a troll ending, too. I'm glad he still recognizes the strengths of the series.
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Jan 25, 2016 00:15
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dijon du jour posted:So how was FNaF world? Did it do anything interesting? I haven't been following it very closely but considering its namesake I was kinda expecting it to pull a Pony Island and go "You think this is a cute RPG but ACTUALLY IT'S HORROR AAAAAAA".
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Jan 25, 2016 00:39
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Never mind. I went for the alternate path I mentioned before, but it just led to another troll ending. Supposedly there's two more endings to find, but I think I might just wait until other people do it instead. Butt Ghost posted:It's pretty mindless. There isn't really much of a plot either, and I'm not too sure why this game exists, unless it's a prototype for another game Scott wants to make. Even FNaF was the same thing, i.e. a very simple game with very little plot*, with the main appeal coming from seeing the weird 3D models Scott put together. It's just that, in doing this, FNaF also happened to stumble across a particularly effective horror formula no one else had ever tried before. *If it seems like there's more plot content in FNaF than there is in his other games, it's only because FNaF implies there's a lot going on behind the scenes. As far as on-screen plot development goes, it really is the same as his other games: At the beginning, something happens, and then at the ending, another thing happens.
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Jan 25, 2016 01:50
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it really grinds my gears how rich the five nights guy is.
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Jan 25, 2016 01:53
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Groovelord Neato posted:it really grinds my gears how rich the five nights guy is. The guy lucked out and then exploited it. Every game apparently has something new and he churned them out super fast and people ate it up. I think the RPG is a weird and probably really stupid path to take but I can't fault him for making so many so quickly. I don't like them and find them super boring but people went nuts and good on him for exploiting that to its fullest 
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Jan 25, 2016 02:00
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Groovelord Neato posted:it really grinds my gears how rich the five nights guy is.
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Jan 25, 2016 02:01
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Also, he donated a big chunk of his earnings to charity. If you look at anyone in the world who makes that much money, I guarantee you luck was a big part of it, whether or not their personal skills play a role in maintaining the income. There's no reason to hold that against anyone, though, particularly if they're a decent person.
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Jan 25, 2016 02:13
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Groovelord Neato posted:it really grinds my gears how rich the five nights guy is. Why? That's weird
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Jan 25, 2016 02:13
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I always respected the guy for trying something different every game, and I really liked the idea behind the mechanics of the 4th one. I have no idea why he got so popular and people are so rabidly obsessed with it, but I am very happy his kids can grow up in financial security and he can retire comfortable.
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spooky robot game man got rich and sold out and somehow this is a bad thing and not an expected thing
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