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Ammat The Ankh posted:Spades Slick smashed the clock. Vriska did nothing wrong. Smashing the clock had as much effect on Vriska's verdict as smashing a thermometer has on a fever.
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Cat Mattress posted:Smashing the clock had as much effect on Vriska's verdict as smashing a thermometer has on a fever. how did you know my secret technique
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Regy Rusty posted:One of the biggest points of contention about Vriska is something you haven't reached yet so hold that thought. Ytlaya posted:So Vriska said all her feelings to John before getting stabbed (which I guess stuck since it was a "Just" killing) Ammat The Ankh posted:Spades Slick smashed the clock. Vriska did nothing wrong. Cat Mattress posted:Smashing the clock had as much effect on Vriska's verdict as smashing a thermometer has on a fever. Perfect
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Jan 24, 2016 01:06
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http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005783 Is the John in this dream bubble or whatever the one who died when stabbed on the quest bed?
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Jan 24, 2016 01:09
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Ytlaya posted:http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005783 Nah I think that's the one Terezi tricked into flying into his denizen's lair. Honestly hard to keep track of all the dead Johns.
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Jan 24, 2016 01:12
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I'm pretty sure that the dreambubble ghosts of dead players only stay in the dreambubbles for as long as they don't have a body to go back to, meaning that players who go god tier are only there for as long as their body takes to resurrect itself. John clearly knew what happened on LOWAS after he resurrected, and Dream Jade mentions the dreambubbles when she's prototyped. Also, we never actually meet any alpha timeline ghosts from people who aren't permadead. So while there WAS a John ghost from when got to got tiger, it got pulled back out the second he came back to life. The John that Vriska's talking to there is the one from the Davesprite timeline, who got tricked by Terezi into going to his Denizen too early.
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curiousTerminal posted:I'm pretty sure that the dreambubble ghosts of dead players only stay in the dreambubbles for as long as they don't have a body to go back to, meaning that players who go god tier are only there for as long as their body takes to resurrect itself. As the most recent flash shows, this is incorrect.
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Ytlaya posted:So Vriska said all her feelings to John before getting stabbed (which I guess stuck since it was a "Just" killing) and then Karkat saw the messages and said some thing that would clearly imply to any normal person that Vriska was dead but I guess John is kind of dense and isn't picking up on it. quote:Do we ever find out more about Doc Scratch other than him being the guardian of the trolls' planet? His role in the story kind of confuses me.
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Jan 24, 2016 01:45
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These segments with dead-John and dead-Vriska are kind of sweet.
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Ytlaya posted:I just watched a neat flash where Terezi confronts Vriska. I'm not sure what's up with the disk being scratched and everything being all glitchy as a result, though; is that just a joke? This was a really loving cool flash and probably one of my favorites overall; I thought the glitch effects were really well done and super well mirrored the relationship between Terezi and Vriska at that point and it had a really neat cliffhanger end Plus the music is cool as poo poo
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Jan 24, 2016 02:16
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Tavros unironically does the best rhymes out of any of the characters in this comic.
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Ytlaya posted:Tavros unironically does the best rhymes out of any of the characters in this comic. You have good opinions and you should feel good.
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Plom Bar posted:As the most recent flash shows, this is incorrect. It doesn't though. It only shows the first few moments after they "wake up" on the other side, nothing about what happens if their soul is needed back to a vessel of some sort. Dream Jade even directly contradicts that line of thinking, given that she mentions being around in the afterlife for an extended period of time before suddenly being brought back as Jadesprite.
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I'm in the process of watching the end of Act 5 flash and I'm a little confused about a couple things: - How did the quest beds get to Jade, Dave, and Rose, and even with the beds how can they become god tier if their other selves are already dead (edit: oh, Jadesprite was used for Jade at least)? - How did Jack get to future Earth where he killed all the exiles except PM (  )?
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curiousTerminal posted:It doesn't though. It only shows the first few moments after they "wake up" on the other side, nothing about what happens if their soul is needed back to a vessel of some sort. Dream Jade even directly contradicts that line of thinking, given that she mentions being around in the afterlife for an extended period of time before suddenly being brought back as Jadesprite. Tough to say, I guess. My read on it was God Tiering was nigh-instantaneous; as soon as the body on the quest bed died, the body intended to ascend just immediately does so, taking the player's "alpha consciousness" with it at that point. Rewatching the flash, I guess there's room for either or, so I was wrong to say you were definitively incorrect.
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There are quest beds in the cores of the moons of Prospit and Derse. That's what happened to Aradia.
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Also Jade's dreamself was revived when it was prototyped so she got to god-tier normally (except for the part where she was fused with an omnipotent dog). Jack put himself inside the time capsule on the meteor with the frog temple on it that would later crash into earth.
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Ytlaya posted:I'm in the process of watching the end of Act 5 flash and I'm a little confused about a couple things: When Doc Scratch said to Rose that she had a 50-50 chance of ascending, what he was referring to was the fact that there are two ways to ascend: The first way, the one that John, Jade, and Vriska use, requires a live dream self and the use of the player planet's quest bed. The second way, which Rose, Dave, and Aradia use, only require that they have A body and it's on the other quest bed in the core of Prospit/Derse's moon. As for Jack, he entered the same Lotus pod that the White King entered, moments after he entered it. Some 413 million years later, both emerged.
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Ytlaya posted:I'm in the process of watching the end of Act 5 flash and I'm a little confused about a couple things: 1. Dave and Rose found quest beds in the center of Derse, similar to how Aradia's dream-self was left on one in an earlier flash. Jade's corpse was carried by Jack to her planet's quest bed. 2. Jack used a meteorite's time capsule (that was also used by the white king) to stowaway on it as it was shot through a defense portal. sirtommygunn fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Jan 24, 2016 |
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Plom Bar posted:When Doc Scratch said to Rose that she had a 50-50 chance of ascending, what he was referring to was the fact that there are two ways to ascend: The first way, the one that John, Jade, and Vriska use, requires a live dream self and the use of the player planet's quest bed. The second way, which Rose, Dave, and Aradia use, only require that they have A body and it's on the other quest bed in the core of Prospit/Derse's moon. Ah, that explains things, thanks I feel like John has kind of lame god-powers when god-Aradia (and I'm guessing Dave still) can travel through time and Jade can freely shrink/grow and move around any object. Like, their powers are more like an actual god's, while John's feels more like just a regular superhero or something.
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Yes, the key takeaway from Homestuck is that John is Lame and A Goober not worth paying much attention to.
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Ytlaya posted:I feel like John has kind of lame god-powers when god-Aradia (and I'm guessing Dave still) can travel through time and Jade can freely shrink/grow and move around any object. Like, their powers are more like an actual god's, while John's feels more like just a regular superhero or something. Hahahahahaha The folly of youth. Keep reading.
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Aradia could already time travel, though. He freezing Bec Noir might be new, or it might be that she didn't give enough of a poo poo until she was alive. Also Jade is half omnipoterrier and thus a cheater. Also, congratulations on watching the flash that destroyed MSPA.com, Newgrounds, and Megaupload in under half an hour.
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While Cascade was a super cool flash, in a way I kind of prefer plot elements being conveyed with "normal" pages. I mean, I'm happy the flash is there because it has some awesome music and it's neat to see a bunch of stuff animated, but it's easier to follow what's going on during the regular pages. edit: Oh wait apparently I missed the first part of Cascade where John destroyed a bunch of enemies with tornadoes of lava. So I guess he is kind of strong, and his powers are the only ones that seem like they can be "directly" destructive (which is kind of ironic given his personality). Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Jan 24, 2016 |
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Ytlaya posted:Ah, that explains things, thanks Control over the weather (or at least part of the weather) is a pretty standard God power. Like, most polytheistic faiths tend to have at least one schmuck who's only real job is to keep meteorologists employed. Basically, a good chunk of superheroes have enough qualifications to be considered at least minor deities, even the lovely ones.
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Ytlaya posted:While Cascade was a super cool flash, in a way I kind of prefer plot elements being conveyed with "normal" pages. I mean, I'm happy the flash is there because it has some awesome music and it's neat to see a bunch of stuff animated, but it's easier to follow what's going on during the regular pages. But normal updates aren't capable of taking down Newground's servers for a full day, now are they?
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YggiDee posted:Also, congratulations on watching the flash that destroyed MSPA.com, Newgrounds, and Megaupload in under half an hour. I remember having to download a torrent of this flash that Hussie himself had to host . He also had to edit the way the flash worked so that it would play when downloaded on your machine, since it's actually 5 .swf files strung together using a DIFFERENT .swf file. Turns out Flash doesn't like to export 55 meg files, who knew?
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Ytlaya posted:Tavros unironically does the best rhymes out of any of the characters in this comic. They're some truly unhealthy incendiaries in above average need of medical attention.
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I'm pretty depressed about the Mayor, though. All he wanted was to be a democratically elected official of a small town and help it run smoothly. =(
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Ytlaya posted:I'm pretty depressed about the Mayor, though. All he wanted was to be a democratically elected official of a small town and help it run smoothly. =( The Mayor is the greatest, this is a true thing you've discovered.
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Oh poo poo, are we talking about the Mayor? He's a delight.
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I can't believe the Mayor is loving dead.
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If you can kiss somebody back to life, surely you can hug them back to life? I will always remember fondly the Mayor's anointing himself courtesy of a mayonnaise label. e: Isn't it sweet that Jack Noir, the preeminent villain, has an ineradicable soft spot for Jade because he used to be her dog?
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Now it's focusing on a new character, Jane Crocker, I guess an alternate universe version of John or something. It says her 13th birthday was two and a half years ago, so does that mean she's older than the original main characters? edit: Oh wait, it's his Nanna, that's right hahahahaha this part: "You love SITUATION COMEDIES, whilst holding particular affection for MUSTACHIOED FUNNYMEN. You know, your FOXWORTHIES, your FUNKES, your SWANSONS, but not necessarily your GALLAGHERS PER SE, because you have to draw the loving line somewhere." Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Jan 24, 2016 |
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Yep, they're older than the original main characters. I'm not sure when exactly this is explained, but it's not that big a deal to explain it early now that you've met them. These kids you're focusing on now have the same birthdays as the kids they've replaced. Jane was Nana, and is now born on John's birthday of April 13, 1996. The others are the same with their respective kid. Acts 1-5 took place on April 13, 2009, and Act 6 starts on November 11, 2011, so it's about two and a half years later. Which coincides with the actual dates of the start of the acts. Act 1 was 4/13/09, Act 5 was 6/12/10 (413 + 612 = 1025, so that is also an arc number) and Act 6 was 11/11/11.
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curiousTerminal posted:I'm not sure when exactly this is explained, but it's not that big a deal to explain it early now that you've met them. These kids you're focusing on now have the same birthdays as the kids they've replaced. Jane was Nana, and is now born on John's birthday of April 13, 1996. The others are the same with their respective kid.
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The way the scratch is theoretically supposed to work (modulo Paradox Space, in which everything that happens was supposed to happen) , the first set of kids we know and love should have vanished entirely when the scratched universe is created. If it weren't for Jade's battleship and Karkat's meteor, the first four would have been erased from reality. For convenience's sake, Jade, John, Dave, and Rose are the Beta kids; the kids you're in the process of meeting are the Alpha kids.
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