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See? I didn't even think about it, I just threw out a bunch of names that I knew were still active. You can definitely do a good Teen Titans, particularly ignoring continuity as some DCYou titles seem to be doing.
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Nothing really ended up ignoring continuity did it? Other than JL and JLA happening 'sometime' to avoid the current day status quos. (e: and JL3K, but that was already a thing.) Maybe Bizarro had some incongruous stuff. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Jan 24, 2016 |
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Jan 24, 2016 04:00
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Prez takes place in it's own world.
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Batgirl seems to be de-aged and her Oracle/BoP past was swept under the rug.
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Dario the Wop posted:Batgirl seems to be de-aged and her Oracle/BoP past was swept under the rug. She's written and drawn with an all new vibrancy, but it is technically the same 2011 Batgirl, and she pops up in plenty of other comics as she is. WickedHate posted:Prez takes place in it's own world. We'll see if anyone remembers to have her born in five years. e: Veg posted:Why didnt Prez launch as a Vertigo series? It's not really their job to revitalize old DC properties anymore. Dial H could have been a Vert series too. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Jan 24, 2016 |
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Why didnt Prez launch as a Vertigo series? Oh and I forgot about Emiko for a new Teen Titans team. She is awesome. Veg fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Jan 24, 2016 |
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Jan 24, 2016 04:20
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Teenage Fansub posted:Nothing really ended up ignoring continuity did it? Other than JL and JLA happening 'sometime' to avoid the current day status quos. (e: and JL3K, but that was already a thing.) Didn't Bizarro have Superman in his pre-New 52 costume with the red trunks? In fact Babs was de-aged/de-Oracled way before her creative revamp, and her creative revamp happened before DC You started.
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Jan 24, 2016 04:25
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Veg posted:Nah keep Supergirl, she hasnt been a real prominent member yet. That's what I mean. Probably phrased poorly. Superboy is in the suggested team, I'd put Kara in instead.
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Jan 24, 2016 04:36
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Dario the Wop posted:Robin, Static, Wonder Girl, Kid Flash, Blue Beetle, Superboy, Beast Boy I'd rather they just kill Kid Flash off and never speak of him again.
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Jan 24, 2016 05:43
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Veg posted:I wish theyd launch Teen Titans with the new young heroes. Like Damien and.. If they could unfuck the Teen Titans it'd be nice to have them operate out of Gotham Academy. Make the book fun, how hard is that? EDIT: Dario's roster would be spot on. Open Marriage Night fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Jan 24, 2016 |
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Jan 24, 2016 05:54
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Die Laughing posted:If they could unfuck the Teen Titans it'd be nice to have them operate out of Gotham Academy. Make the book fun, how hard is that? I like Gotham Academy too much to want to risk them getting any Teen Titans on it. You know it'd only be a few months before Maps lost an arm or something. 
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Jan 24, 2016 05:56
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Veg posted:Why didnt Prez launch as a Vertigo series? Because regardless of how it's perceived by fans I think once you launch something as a Vertigo series it immediately puts a low cap on how successful the book will be. They were probably hoping it would do better business not as a Vertigo book.
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Jan 24, 2016 06:05
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I'd like to be optimistic about it after Batgirl, and the Robin stuff they've been doing. Making Teen Titans a book that actual teenagers would read is the best thing they could do. Weekdays at Gotham Academy and weekends at Titans Tower learning from the classic Titans like in Geoff Johns run. DC knows they hosed up. How often do you see the New 52 Titans appear in any other book?
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Jan 24, 2016 06:09
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Two Tone Shoes posted:I'd rather they just kill Kid Flash off and never speak of him again. Wally needs to be Kid Flash again, and then Barry needs to die so Wally can be Flash again. I hate to have to say it, but also, Wally is like the one white hero in the history of comics who really doesn't need a race change, too. Black guy that runs fast and who's name is the white hero but with "Kid" added? Yikes. The racist backstory elements makes it even worse.
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WickedHate posted:Wally needs to be Kid Flash again, and then Barry needs to die so Wally can be Flash again. I hate to have to say it, but also, Wally is like the one white hero in the history of comics who really doesn't need a race change, too. Black guy that runs fast and who's name is the white hero but with "Kid" added? Yikes. The racist backstory elements makes it even worse. Being Redheaded also made him visually stand out more. Current Wally looks like a background character. Nothing stands out about his design in anyway. The fact that he has no character traits at all of the Old Wally does not help. He is also way too young. All of his friends from before the universe reset are much older then him. Hell Bart who viewed Wally like an older brother is older then him now. He's younger then Wally was when Wally was first introduced decades ago.
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I don't know what they've been doing with Wally in New 52, but there's no reason that a black guy as a blue variant Flash shouldn't be cool. Ahh! DC!
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MonsterEnvy posted:Being Redheaded also made him visually stand out more. Look up what they did to Bart and be horrified.
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bobkatt013 posted:Look up what they did to Bart and be horrified. Oh I know what they did to Bart. One of the worst ideas I have seen. I also don't believe this Bart is related to Barry or has interacted with him. I think they decided to ruin Solstice too when they got rid of him. (Completely redoing Solstice's look to make it the opposite of how her powers or personality works was a stupid idea has well.) MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 10:44 on Jan 24, 2016 |
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And Cyborg I guess went straight to Justice League and was never a part of any Titans team. I don't know a lot about Teen Titans but it seems like a confusing mess.
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WickedHate posted:Superboy is completely useless as a character since the New 52 made him generically brooding and dark. Happy 90s Youth Superboy rocked. Nah, he was like that well before the New 52. That was his big character arc in Teen Titans by Geoff Johns - he learns that he was half a clone of Lex Luthor all along (quite notoriously, if you go back to one particular issue of Superboy's comic from the late 1990s, there's a letter suggesting that Superboy could have Luthor's DNA, addressed from one Geoffrey Johns, age 18 or so), which allows Luthor to mind control him to attack his friends, and he becomes all dour and miserable.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Nah, he was like that well before the New 52. That was his big character arc in Teen Titans by Geoff Johns - he learns that he was half a clone of Lex Luthor all along (quite notoriously, if you go back to one particular issue of Superboy's comic from the late 1990s, there's a letter suggesting that Superboy could have Luthor's DNA, addressed from one Geoffrey Johns, age 18 or so), which allows Luthor to mind control him to attack his friends, and he becomes all dour and miserable. Also paired with the sweet robot girl from the contemporary run of The Outsiders to turn out to be Braniac in disguise (or an offshoot, or fork or something). I remember teenage-Gaz-L being very annoyed with that turn of events.
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Indigo! She's going to be in the Supergirl show. I miss Johns Superboy.
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She was Brainiac 8, from the future. Yes, three generations ahead of Brainiac 5 from LSH.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Nah, he was like that well before the New 52. That was his big character arc in Teen Titans by Geoff Johns - he learns that he was half a clone of Lex Luthor all along (quite notoriously, if you go back to one particular issue of Superboy's comic from the late 1990s, there's a letter suggesting that Superboy could have Luthor's DNA, addressed from one Geoffrey Johns, age 18 or so), which allows Luthor to mind control him to attack his friends, and he becomes all dour and miserable. Ah, my mistake then, I thought it was semi-tying in with the Young Justice cartoon.
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Gaz-L posted:Also paired with the sweet robot girl from the contemporary run of The Outsiders to turn out to be Braniac in disguise (or an offshoot, or fork or something). I remember teenage-Gaz-L being very annoyed with that turn of events. I thought Indigo got paired off with Shift (the piece-of-Metamorpho-who-became-a-new-Metamorpho).
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:I thought Indigo got paired off with Shift (the piece-of-Metamorpho-who-became-a-new-Metamorpho). Yes, so she could cackle about how it was all a deception when Braniac 8's plan to team up with LuthorBoy comes to fruition.
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Gaz-L posted:Yes, so she could cackle about how it was all a deception when Braniac 8's plan to team up with LuthorBoy comes to fruition. Ahhhh, gotcha; I misunderstood your meaning for 'paired.' Yeah, I was pretty irritated by that storyline myself, if only because I thought Indigo and Shift were pretty cute together.
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That crossover was the only Outsiders I've ever read. Was that the same series where they team up with Chris Hansen or John Walsh or somebody to break up a paedophile ring?
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Ahhhh, gotcha; I misunderstood your meaning for 'paired.' I don't remember, but I don't think she was aware she was a Brainiac. It was a cute relationship, Elemant Boy meets Robot Girl.
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Well, I think she was unaware she was evil. I'm now dimly recalling that she was upfront about being from the same planet as the Legion's Brainy, hence why readers would think she was ok. And yes, there was something involving John Walsh.
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I believe that series of Outsiders (it was Judd Winick, I think) was a lot like the Torchwood to Teen Titans's Doctor Who - the "grown-up" version except by "grown-up" they meant "everyone has lots of sex and stop having sex to talk about how much sex they have". 
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Die Laughing posted:I don't know what they've been doing with Wally in New 52, but there's no reason that a black guy as a blue variant Flash shouldn't be cool. Ahh! DC! Blue Variant Flash was another Barry Allen. Wally got the honors of looking like a lovely cyborg ripoff for all of 4 pages before dying. As someone else said, he lacks any sort of visual uniqueness. He has the same generic haircut and skin tone of every vaguely black background and bit character DC has ever had. It doesn't help that he was also a street criminal gang member who wouldn't listen to his only relative and guardian in Iris (because she was a woman) and needed Barry Allen to show him right from wrong with the power of Baseball. WickedHate posted:Wally needs to be Kid Flash again, and then Barry needs to die so Wally can be Flash again. I hate to have to say it, but also, Wally is like the one white hero in the history of comics who really doesn't need a race change, too. Black guy that runs fast and who's name is the white hero but with "Kid" added? Yikes. The racist backstory elements makes it even worse. With a popular tv show and a movie coming out (and another string of movies after that) I doubt there will ever be a time where Barry Allen is not The Flash again, aside from weirdo story arcs whose entire premise is "Barry's not The Flash" rather than him actually being replaced (Ala John Fox for you Flash fans). The best Wally could ever hope for is to go the way of Nightwing because he isn't worthy enough to be The Flash like Barry Allen because Barry is "iconic" or whatever the gently caress. He'll get a new name and, since Flash is nowhere near Batman popularity, will mire permanently as a b or c lister for the rest of his existence. Unless some huge 90s Wally West fan takes over DC at some point. Two Tone Shoes fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Jan 24, 2016 |
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As long as we're doing armchair editorial, you're all stuck reading my Teen Titans ideas: Many, many years ago, I wanted a Teen Titans series that would have been superficially similar to the current We Are Robin. I wanted to have the Teen Titans concept metastasized through superpowers youth culture. Teenagers would be banding together with one another to do superhero business, not as little consistent team rosters, but as kind of social activity/activism. If you know someone who can teleport, maybe you organize a super-excursion to Lower Stumblefuck, West Dakota to because someone online said that Per Degaton is growing time-corn there. Maybe you then eat some of the time-corn, because teenagers do dumb, awesome things. Maybe you accidentally tear a rift in the timeline, and have to convince Waverider that you have no clue who cornholed the universe, but you're here to help fix the problem. Riding herd on the whole movement would be Cyborg and Beast Boy. They'd be adults generally (though my universally) trusted by Titans kids, and would pretty openly make themselves available to help with advice and safe spaces and such. They'd also have weird conversations about growing older, where e.g. Beast Boy wonders if Buddy would be cool with BB asking to take the Animal Man name. The major villains would've been ripped out of the most bizarre corners of DC: old Doom Patrol, Metamorpho, etc. villains, plus a bunch of new strangeness. The goal would be to create that sense of teenage-ness, where everything—even everyday social interaction—has this emotionally-oversaturated, operatic intensity; and the feeling of having enough "adult" awareness to understand a tremendous amount of life and culture, but still having enough gaps in your awareness that the world seems not to fit together properly. I think that I hashed this all out in a long conversation with a friend, back in the day. It was probably part of the series of discussions in which we also determined that the Justice League HQ should be J'onn J'onzz plus ambitious shapeshifting.
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Squizzle posted:As long as we're doing armchair editorial...
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Teenage Fansub posted:Nothing really ended up ignoring continuity did it? Other than JL and JLA happening 'sometime' to avoid the current day status quos. (e: and JL3K, but that was already a thing.) Section 8
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Die Laughing posted:Indigo! She's going to be in the Supergirl show. drat it. I want Brainiac 5 in the Supergirl show! 
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datingvolcanoes posted:Yeah, but I'd buy 100 issues of that. The prolonged adolescent moment where you feel "I know enough to see that this system is broken—and I know how to fix it" owns and more teen heroes should tap into it, especially groups of teen heroes.
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