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Chalks posted:Yeah, normally when a game "patches" it actually means a patch gets downloaded and applies the changes for the new version. With SC apparently they make you re-download the entire game every single time. So when people say they had a 28GB patch, they mean they had to re-download every single file just because CIG changed a few lines of code but can't work out how to write a patcher. Holy gently caress. Please tell me at least the files are compressed.
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They can't waste time implementing a proper patcher when they've got 53 clothing brands to get in-game. How many jpegs does a patching mechanism designed post 1984 sell? None!
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tooterfish posted:If by discussion you mean two blatant shills posting propaganda and otherwise being weaselly as gently caress while more reasonable people get bored/sick of their circular bullshit and leave, then yes, there's plenty of discussion. The actual discussion tends to wash around those two, but with no progress there's not much to discuss lately. It's still late, poo poo and mostly imaginary.
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happyhippy posted:Holy gently caress. I don't know, but they're ludicrously large. I don't really understand why it's such a big deal for them to get an actual patcher, there must be off the shelf software that does this sort of thing since every piece of software on the planet is able to distribute patches. They have no development time to spend investigating that but don't worry they've implemented the fuckin' fishtank. Chalks fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Jan 24, 2016 |
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SelenicMartian posted:Somebody suggest noddle machine to be server side on the CIG forums, so that people could steal or buy them and attach them to the outer hulls of ships as extra shielding and snack sources. So they're either server side and functioning incorrectly or someone made them client-side so 2.0 would be less of a clusterfuck and didn't tell Chris.
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happyhippy posted:Holy gently caress. Iirc, CE3 PAK files are basically zips, but considering the very small amount of space available and the restricted amount of assets in that space, chances are that they haven't exactly dialled the compression up a lot.
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happyhippy posted:Holy gently caress. I thought jpegs were already compressed images. *shrugs*
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A Neurotic Jew posted:I made a quick playlist of good star citizen youtube videos. Let me know if you think anything should be added. I tried to stick with stuff that was pretty self-explanatory and not too heavy on goon in-jokes. You missed the best one ever, and such an early prediction too! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7IxCQqP4lE
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Tippis posted:
I like how he explains that there will be forks of the project but forgets to mention that those forks, before they become relevant to us
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Jan 24, 2016 19:59
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25 pages and Goons become Hitler. Just saying.
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Chalks posted:I don't know, but they're ludicrously large. I don't really understand why it's such a big deal for them to get an actual patcher, there must be off the shelf software that does this sort of thing since every piece of software on the planet is able to distribute patches. Because Star Citizen is suppose to take up 100 gigabytes. That's why.
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Iglocska posted:I like how he explains that there will be forks of the project but forgets to mention that those forks, before they become relevant to us The important part the digression into an explanation of a VCS system served was to demonstrate that the poster really DOES understand game development unlike the rest of the scrubs complaining about the patcher.
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TTerrible posted:No friend, people give him poo poo because he is apparently an expert in whatever needs to be discussed at the time. It helps that he is usually copy pasting things from wikipedia and doesn't understand what he is posting. It's a flavour explosion of funny. I'm sure their schema is absolutely beautiful and pristine, and not even remotely hot liquid poo poo duct-taped to the walls.
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Unfunny Poster posted:25 pages and Goons become Hitler.  35
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Octopode posted:I don't keep historical data around, so I can't really do discrete monthly looks at a point in time like that. I can only see the most recent date which an account was active. It's also complicated by the fact that they did a database structure change sometime in 2014 or so, so some of the older data appears to be unreliable, such as having the UNIX epoch as a date. Not sure if I've asked you this before, can you pull data on anything related to number of forum bans?
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I lost some time thanks to this morning's earthquake, but I now only have 30 more pages to go.
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TTerrible posted:The important part the digression into an explanation of a VCS system served was to demonstrate that the poster really DOES understand game development unlike the rest of the scrubs complaining about the patcher. It's made even more funny by the fact that his explanation ends with a very good description of why you'd want some kind of proper patcher (or just use a local resource cache/messy pile of files) rather than PAKs while the thing is in development. In trying to show that it's more practical to use the current full PAK download method, he accidentally demonstrates why it's so impractical, all while insinuating that edits on checked-out files will somehow force more client updates. Understanding game development is truly best proven by misunderstanding every part of the process. 
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It's also really telling that the cultizens flock to the defense of issues like the patcher with the same inane arguments, only slightly altered. Yes, you are completely right, they don't have the time right now to build the essentiell infrastructure for their product, they have to first implement all the fluff and then at the end comes the important stuff. I'm so lucky that I don't understand game development because otherwise I would have to ask myself why every other company can do it and only CIG can't. 
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TTerrible posted:The important part the digression into an explanation of a VCS system served was to demonstrate that the poster really DOES understand game development unlike the rest of the scrubs complaining about the patcher. Nothing like showing off your git 101 knowledge to establish yourself as the alpha nerd on a gaming forum!
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Junkozeyne posted:It's also really telling that the cultizens flock to the defense of issues like the patcher with the same inane arguments, only slightly altered. Yes, you are completely right, they don't have the time right now to build the essentiell infrastructure for their product, they have to first implement all the fluff and then at the end comes the important stuff. Noodle vending machine before a competent patching method, bro.
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Unfunny Poster posted:25 pages and Goons become Hitler. I think you'll both find it's 42 
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fuctifino posted:A pistol vs The Constellation. Is it wrong that this makes me kind of want to play the game? Also, my catte: 
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Junkozeyne posted:I'm so lucky that I don't understand game development because otherwise I would have to ask myself why every other company can do it and only RSI can't. Because Star Citizen: There's no Limit to What We Can't Achieve.
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Junkozeyne posted:I'm so lucky that I don't understand game development because otherwise I would have to ask myself why every other company can do it and only CIG can't. Imagine a game development company run by a 13 year old child with ADHD. You can't focus on anything because your boss keeps changing his mind and thinking up new poo poo and making you work it immediately. Now imagine that child is a fully grown man who resembles a human thumb. You now understand CIG's "game development" process.
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 https://www.reddit.com/r/DerekSmart/comments/423tsn/derek_smarts_cig_2016_prediction/cza7ib5?context=3  https://www.reddit.com/r/Documentaries/comments/42d850/the_jihadist_next_door_2016_following_a_group_of/cza6yby?context=3
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Unfunny Poster posted:Math isn't my thing OK? Look, we all have a tyop slip in every now and again. I wonder how big the game will be when all 107 star systems have been implemented. I'd say 150gb is a good estimate.
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Mirificus posted:
Put this man in a wheel chair, Derek
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Chin posted:Chris said last month that they are server side. That they had to cut back on movable items lying or floating around because they end up transmitting location information to everyone on the server. If it's client-side, my new goal in life is to write a hack that lets you hurl the noodle machine at extremely high velocities towards, say, that constellation over there.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Look, we all have a tyop slip in every now and again. Is that guesstimate with or without scarves?
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Toops posted:If it's client-side, my new goal in life is to write a hack that lets you hurl the noodle machine at extremely high velocities towards, say, that constellation over there. Replace the gun bullets with noodle machines, tia
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A Neurotic Jew posted:I made a quick playlist of good star citizen youtube videos. Let me know if you think anything should be added. I tried to stick with stuff that was pretty self-explanatory and not too heavy on goon in-jokes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNlWQ3s5Xc8
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Mirificus posted:
Star Citizen: Javelins and Jihadists
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if star citizen comes out and there are hacks and cheats available I will use them mercilessly
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Colostomy Bag posted:Is that guesstimate with or without scarves? I am not taking procedural pets and planets into consideration, and based off of Chris Roberts previous track records I assume only 42 of the 53 clothing styles/manufacturers will see the light of day.
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From Reddit @ https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/42h9im/be_patient_citizens_oc:
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Google Butt posted:if star citizen comes out and there are hacks and cheats available I will use them mercilessly same well, i mean, if it is sold at market price for games. not the retardo spergo price that it seems to be selling at right now.
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Iglocska posted:From Reddit @ https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/42h9im/be_patient_citizens_oc: Not enough clutter and lack of vision, 4/2
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A Neurotic Jew posted:I made a quick playlist of good star citizen youtube videos. Let me know if you think anything should be added. I tried to stick with stuff that was pretty self-explanatory and not too heavy on goon in-jokes. I am completely saddened by the fact that you added the Keetah the Cheetah video in that list. I wasnt paying attention when it rolled over and now that horrible squeaky toy voice is stuck in my head again. Ive never really had a problem with furries, but that guy... "I HAZ SQUEAKY TOY VOICE CAUSE REASONS" just makes me want to throw things at him. Can we PLEASE sick mr pleasurebot owner Rabbit Man after him? Maybe enough tennis ball crossbow bolts would seriously get him to stop.
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Chalks posted:Imagine a game development company run by a 13 year old child with ADHD. You can't focus on anything because your boss keeps changing his mind and thinking up new poo poo and making you work it immediately.  This graph is pretty close to 100% true. But see with Chris "Helmet" Roberts at the helm, CIG is stuck at 20% because someone says birds and he flaps his magic hands and mouth now birds are in.
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