Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
TheBlackRoija
May 6, 2008

Inzombiac posted:

Also, I tried out the Ur-Dragon and he came in and then flew away immediately and now I can't get him back.

He did that to me the first time too. You just have to leave the everfall completely (not just the room) and then come back to get him to respawn.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

ShadowMar
Mar 2, 2010

HERE IS A
GRAVEYARD
OF YOU!


Genocyber posted:

Especially since the two best weapons (Ascalon and Heaven's Key) can be gotten from the much easier offline Ur. Still sucks tho, since most of the holy weapons look loving awesome.

you will probably get dozens of ascalons from offline ur dragon if you're trying to get heavens keys. either that or i have ridiculously terrible luck.

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying

Evil Mastermind posted:

If I got Reynard killed on an escort quest, does he respawn after a while or does that mean he's gone for good and I can't do his "normal" quest later?

All NPCs respawn, so don't sweat it.

Nemesis Of Moles
Jul 25, 2007

Got my first online Ur-Dragon kill. I mean I was also kitted out in BBI stuff already so the loot was pretty meh, but it was kinda fun to get that in.

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

ShadowMar posted:

you will probably get dozens of ascalons from offline ur dragon if you're trying to get heavens keys. either that or i have ridiculously terrible luck.

Turns out Dragon's Dogma was cross developed with Dark Souls and they both use the item drop system that scales inversely with how much you want the item you're farming for.

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

...
...




ANIME IS BLOOD posted:

this playthrough is basically hosed: skipped lost and found, skipped the resurrection quest, and fournival got executed

fournival doesn't actually matter as much in this version of the game because some of the more handy stuff he sells infinite of are either invalidated entirely with the expansion or severely lessened in quality. basically the only reason there is to absolve him is to get that cloak if you want it or if you want to buy those boring super arrows.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Genocyber posted:

Turns out Dragon's Dogma was cross developed with Dark Souls and they both use the item drop system that scales inversely with how much you want the item you're farming for.
It really is like Monster Hunter! :v:

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY


Secret of Metamorphisis is a POST-GAME item, not a New Game+ item.
Now I'm stuck with a tiny dwarf with a squeaky voice.

Hire Dr. Mantis to make me feel better. He's a pretty decent fighter.

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying

Inzombiac posted:

Secret of Metamorphisis is a POST-GAME item, not a New Game+ item.
Now I'm stuck with a tiny dwarf with a squeaky voice.

Hire Dr. Mantis to make me feel better. He's a pretty decent fighter.

You can buy Art of Metamorphosis any time you want that gives you a one off char customization.

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY


Fish Fry Andy posted:

You can buy Art of Metamorphosis any time you want that gives you a one off char customization.

Yeah, I know. I started a NG+, used Art to make a joke character and now I'm stuck with it.

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying

Inzombiac posted:

Yeah, I know. I started a NG+, used Art to make a joke character and now I'm stuck with it.

Time for speedrun mode.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
It feels like there are far more of the bandit captains or whatever compared to the ps3 version. I'm level 17 trying to do the shadow tower escort and keep running into groups that have 2-3 of them that take forever to kill and i have to run away form to make sure i never get hit by them

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

Fish Fry Andy posted:

I just watched my main pawn solo an Eliminator while barely taking damage. You're probably just hiring pawns with low bestiary knowledge of BBI bosses. When I first hit the island my pawn struggled with every enemy type and didn't seem to do much of anything, but now that she's hit two star knowledge for most enemies she's pretty competent and rarely ever goes down. When I'm hiring pawns (especially mages) I generally look to make sure they have a good amount of BBI enemy knowledge.

The only miniboss pawns seem to consistently struggle with are Cursed Dragons, they just can't figure out where the heart is for some reason.

Really? I've got two star BBI enemy knowledge on my main utilitarian/challenger sorcerer pawn for most of the enemies in there and most of the time she refuses to engage or simply stares at it blankly until it kills her or gets vacuumed into death loops against wargs biting her in the face while she tries to cast fulmination. I have a really frustrating time trying to get my pawns to actually engage things reliably even when I'm hiring aggressive inclinations and spamming the Go command.

I would love to have pawns actually contribute again because half the time I've been tempted to not even bring them since I spend most of my boss fights running around and picking up my dead idiot pawns. The first time I ran into an eliminator was hilarious because it killed every pawn I had every single time it attacked.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters
God drat it I missed Ur-Dragon 18 and 19? Hopefully 20 won't be another Super Tank so he can die today. :argh:

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Johnny Joestar posted:

i like how there's hints to the weird story poo poo spread throughout the game and you'll only be able to pick up on them if you know what to look for.

I love how the Jester straifght up tells you what the King/Duke is going to do whe nyou kill de dragons

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

Johnny Joestar posted:

fournival doesn't actually matter as much in this version of the game because some of the more handy stuff he sells infinite of are either invalidated entirely with the expansion or severely lessened in quality. basically the only reason there is to absolve him is to get that cloak if you want it or if you want to buy those boring super arrows.

Thaaaaaaat's not true at all. Periaps/the all party version of them are how you kill tougher enemies without having to grind or min/max. They are life savers if you want a smoother playthrough, especially once you're on BBI.

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

...
...




Genocyber posted:

Thaaaaaaat's not true at all. Periaps/the all party version of them are how you kill tougher enemies without having to grind or min/max. They are life savers if you want a smoother playthrough, especially once you're on BBI.

rude. i guess i forgot about those things.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

My problem with games like this is that I always forget I have things like periaps or trick arrows or whatever, so poo poo ends up being harder than it needs to be.

Lunimeow
Oct 6, 2012

Shaken, not purred.
I am laughing my rear end off right now.
I can't figure out how to spoiler a timg and just putting the img is huge sooo http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/365157185061100937/8787EEC0168141B94CE4A7AD5D22C3ED0C8DAEA3/
I love taking screenshots of this game.

ShadowMar
Mar 2, 2010

HERE IS A
GRAVEYARD
OF YOU!


Lunimeow posted:

I am laughing my rear end off right now.
I can't figure out how to spoiler a timg and just putting the img is huge sooo http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/365157185061100937/8787EEC0168141B94CE4A7AD5D22C3ED0C8DAEA3/
I love taking screenshots of this game.

there's no way that wasn't intentional and it makes me laugh every time i do it

Praseodymi
Aug 26, 2010

Is there a way to tell how much damage you're doing to the Ur-Dragon? I'm pretty sure the health bar moved, so that's a good thing right?

If it helps, I was just spamming holy enchanted Dragon's Dogma on dual Great Cannons.

EDIT: The health bar definitely moved then, I managed to pop off one of the health bar dots.

Praseodymi fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Jan 24, 2016

Clocks
Oct 2, 2007



Evil Mastermind posted:

My problem with games like this is that I always forget I have things like periaps or trick arrows or whatever, so poo poo ends up being harder than it needs to be.

Yeah, the first fight I had a lot of difficulty with was the dark bishop/cursed dragon one, until I decided to use periapts and demolished him in like a minute.

George Rouncewell
Jul 20, 2007

You think that's illegal? Heh, watch this.
I stabbed a cyclops so hard he dropped two eyes.

Do i retain my dagger skills/dodge roll if i swap to Assassin?

Mr. Baps
Apr 16, 2008

Yo ho?

Illegal Username posted:

I stabbed a cyclops so hard he dropped two eyes.

Do i retain my dagger skills/dodge roll if i swap to Assassin?

Some skills are Strider-only (marked by a yellow Strider icon in the corner of the skill description) but some of them, and the whole core skills category, will carry over into Assassin (and Ranger, and Magick Archer).

e: and if a skill has no class icon, then every class that can use that weapon can use the skill

Praseodymi
Aug 26, 2010

Alika just climbed the Ur-Dragon's tail in flight and brought it down with her sword. Her and Halkor are definitely the best pawns I've ever had.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Illegal Username posted:

Do i retain my dagger skills/dodge roll if i swap to Assassin?
Skills will tell you what classes can use them in the description when you're learning/setting them.

Depths
Apr 15, 2009

SENPAI

Glad i got a dragonforged rusted bow for my pawn, this sums up the gorecyclops fight.

Thursday Next
Jan 11, 2004

FUCK THE ISLE OF APPLES. FUCK THEM IN THEIR STUPID ASSES.

Evil Mastermind posted:

My problem with games like this is that I always forget I have things like periaps or trick arrows or whatever, so poo poo ends up being harder than it needs to be.

I'm with you, buddy. Particular in games like this where there are hundreds of different potentially-useful items, and item rarity varies wildly from "so common you step past it" to "farm this poo poo for hours before seeing one".

In other news, I killed teh dargon this morning and am magickally arching my way through post-game. I hate sorceror in early / mid game, when goblins and bandits are still a thing. But about 30 or so levels of suffering is enough for me to be pretty drat happy about my current damage.

ShadowMar
Mar 2, 2010

HERE IS A
GRAVEYARD
OF YOU!


Praseodymi posted:

Alika just climbed the Ur-Dragon's tail in flight and brought it down with her sword. Her and Halkor are definitely the best pawns I've ever had.

she's gotten so brave since i messed with her inclinations :3:

Mr. Baps
Apr 16, 2008

Yo ho?

I've been considering changing my ranger pawn to strider and giving him a rusted bow, because man torpor sure is great. But then I remember how he blows goblins across the map or plugs dozens of arrows into monsters I'm climbing and I can't bring myself to do it.

I'm gonna have to start carrying rusted weapons myself :smith:

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying

There's a massive shortage of decent ranger/strider pawns around level 90, good god. All of them are undergeared or are Guardian/Nexus. It's horrifying.

Kanos posted:

Really? I've got two star BBI enemy knowledge on my main utilitarian/challenger sorcerer pawn for most of the enemies in there and most of the time she refuses to engage or simply stares at it blankly until it kills her or gets vacuumed into death loops against wargs biting her in the face while she tries to cast fulmination. I have a really frustrating time trying to get my pawns to actually engage things reliably even when I'm hiring aggressive inclinations and spamming the Go command.

I would love to have pawns actually contribute again because half the time I've been tempted to not even bring them since I spend most of my boss fights running around and picking up my dead idiot pawns. The first time I ran into an eliminator was hilarious because it killed every pawn I had every single time it attacked.

I'm not sure what your issue is, then. Maybe we're just operating by different standards?

http://steamcommunity.com/id/AnimeLord/

If you want to shoot me a friend request so you can try out my fighter pawn and see if she works for you or not.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Why do idiots keep making their pawns Guardians? I have no idea why there are so goddamn many of those out in the Rift.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Night10194 posted:

Why do idiots keep making their pawns Guardians? I have no idea why there are so goddamn many of those out in the Rift.

Because when they're picking the personality having a pawn who 'stays close and protects you' sounds good, like they wont run off like an idiot and kill things you're trying to avoid. And you can raise the inclination super easily by trying ti corral your pawns in battle.

Most people do not read forums or analysis, or even know what inclinations are or what they do.

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying

Night10194 posted:

Why do idiots keep making their pawns Guardians? I have no idea why there are so goddamn many of those out in the Rift.

If you use the help command your pawn gets kicked towards the Guardian inclination. A lot of Guardians are people who don't know about the inclination system or don't know what Guardian actually does, I suppose.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

I'm hoping playing Warrior some myself will teach my Warrior pawn Pat to jump strike people all the goddamn time.

UP AND ADAM
Jan 24, 2007

by Pragmatica
On BBI, are you supposed to fight Death alone, or is there a way to get your pawns out of the way? Maybe take all ranged ones?

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

If I'm playing as a magic archer, is it better to use daggers with high magic or should I be going for straight damage?

Deacon of Delicious
Aug 20, 2007

I bet the twist ending is Dracula's dick-babies

Rhonne posted:

If I'm playing as a magic archer, is it better to use daggers with high magic or should I be going for straight damage?

I'm curious about this too.

Fish Fry Andy posted:

There's a massive shortage of decent ranger/strider pawns around level 90, good god. All of them are undergeared or are Guardian/Nexus. It's horrifying.

I've got a strider pawn that I plan on giving rusted weapons so they can cause topor. What would be good inclinations for them?

Also, would there be any reason to stick with strider instead of going ranger?

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

Opposing Farce posted:

What are people's preferred farming spots for Bitterblack Weapon level 2s (post-Daimon)? I heard the Black Abbey was a good bet but I did it a whole bunch yesterday and had zero luck. I guess I could farm that chest in Duskmoon Tower over and over but that seems like a lot of resting.

Do you have Godsbane? Save game. Open chest. If you don't get what you want, kill yourself and try again. It's tedious, but it beats resting however many days it takes to reset the chests.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

A Real Happy Camper
Dec 11, 2007

These children have taught me how to believe.

UP AND ADAM posted:

On BBI, are you supposed to fight Death alone, or is there a way to get your pawns out of the way? Maybe take all ranged ones?

It's probably best to do it alone so you dont need to deal with them, and if you grab the assassin's autonomy augment you get a boost.

it's also pretty easy to stunlock death with periapts + blast arrows

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply