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Jerusalem posted:A higher general level of education can only be a good thing. Unless, of course, your entire political strategy depends on people being gullible and ill-informed.
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CrowsNestMutineer posted:Unless, of course, your entire political strategy depends on people being gullible and ill-informed. It's vicious cycle: uninformed voters vote against education out of fear of cultural alienation and resentment while politicians deliberately pitch education as the enemy specifically because preying on these irrational opinions makes for very easily lead voters, then education suffers thanks to their mismanagment leading to more uninformed voters railing against education.
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cram me sideways posted:Wouldn't the outright and immediate reaction to there actually BEING a free university education be every single higher institution and bank and business and every other economic driving force in the country be "Under no circumstances are we going to accept graduates from a public university?" Wouldn't the people manning those forces be completely petty and lovely about it because by god they had to pay out for THEIR loving education, and over my dead body are we hiring some DEADBEAT who couldn't do the decent thing and go half a million in the hole for their otherwise useless education? That's asking a lot of graduates to start assuming their particular institution is not the exception to the obvious dumbing down all other institutions are going through because of those freeloaders. Banks, businesses, and everyone else favors private prestige schools like the Ivies already. It's too much to assume that the hundreds of thousands of graduates from the big public universities are going to develop a new prejudice against their own schools in favor of small, private colleges they probably haven't even heard of.
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Also if your education is paid for you could more feasibly enter a lower-income profession. One of the things keeping me out of teaching is the fact that I'd rack up more debt in college than I could ever pay off with a teacher's salary. Same for say social work, the arts, certain sciences, and basically everything that isn't engineering or a technical degree.
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There is also the shocking idea that people will be able to go to college to learn something that they are interested in with no drive to pursue a career in it. It can allow people to broaden their horizons.
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FishBulb posted:Probably wouldn't help either as companies are just going to eliminate positions and expect higher productivity out of the remaining staff to save money. That's definitely how things went when I was in the military. Half our office got eliminated and we still had to keep up the same level of work. After multiple years later, they never hired more people.
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Cabinet posted:There is also the shocking idea that people will be able to go to college to learn something that they are interested in with no drive to pursue a career in it. It can allow people to broaden their horizons. You mean be exposed to dangerous foreign ideas that the Texas Board of Education hasn't signed off on?
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The Cartoon Forecast calls for a storm of "If Global Warming, Why Snow" cartoons this week. But in the meantime, think warm thoughts about gunfire
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Cloud Potato posted:Times: Jeb!'s bus should be a Reliant Regal 
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How dare he talk of GunViolence when he in fact is GunViolence.
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Rorus Raz posted:The Cartoon Forecast calls for a storm of "If Global Warming, Why Snow" cartoons this week. But in the meantime, think warm thoughts about gunfire Even celebrities who make cash because of glamorous fake gun violence are aware we have a problem with them.
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Rorus Raz posted:The Cartoon Forecast calls for a storm of "If Global Warming, Why Snow" cartoons this week. But in the meantime, think warm thoughts about gunfire The NY Times is always giving oodles of stars to gun violence movies. Phew! Payne squeezed a poorly drawn car into this 'toon.
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Jerusalem posted:Jeb!'s bus should be a Reliant Regal More like a Reliant Robin.
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Rorus Raz posted:The Cartoon Forecast calls for a storm of "If Global Warming, Why Snow" cartoons this week. But in the meantime, think warm thoughts about gunfire
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Also, I hear Anthony Hopkins is actually opposed to cannibalism. loving hypocrite.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Also, I hear Anthony Hopkins is actually opposed to cannibalism. loving hypocrite. edit: I was just wondering if that cartoon was A Thing Happened or not. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Jan 25, 2016 |
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Samurai Sanders posted:Are there action movie stars who speak against gun violence? Sylvester Stallone. Stallone posted:It has to be stopped, and someone really has to go on the line, a certain dauntless political figure, and say, ‘It’s ending, it’s over, all bets are off, it’s not 200 years ago, we don’t need [the Second Amendment] anymore, and the rest of the world doesn’t have it. Why should we? Jurgan fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Jan 25, 2016 |
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Rorus Raz posted:The Cartoon Forecast calls for a storm of "If Global Warming, Why Snow" cartoons this week. But in the meantime, think warm thoughts about gunfire "How dare this actor who gets paid to pretend to shoot people have a problem with people being shot in real life?"
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Huh, I didn't know that, but I guess that's not recent. I was wondering if the cartoon was in response to something recent. I mean, all the news from Hollywood right now is how bad they are at race inclusion, I hadn't heard anything from them about guns.
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Fulchrum posted:Things we can't handle, year 2016 I am just catching up, but I think this is less "oh god I don't get it without labels" and more "PBFing". The message about gruel is clear, but we're trying to read more into the symbolism of who is what can opener, and there's nothing there to read into. I stand by my original post saying it's a bad cartoon, because it's really not the same old gruel depending on who wins. Trump especially. Cruz is not mainline GOP. The various cartoons showing an elephant getting put into awkward or uncomfortable positions by either of them reinforce this. I disagree with Bennett's point of view here.
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Shugojin posted:It's a fairly common non-invasive way to look inside someone, yeah. non-invasive unless its the kind these types just looooove to try and make mandatory
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Somfin posted:You mean be exposed to dangerous foreign ideas that the Texas Board of Education hasn't signed off on? No, I think he means wasting precious tax dollars on any courses other than whatever field currently has the highest lifetime expected earning ratio! If you use your student loan on a literature degree, you're a traitor.
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Going to a university for the sole purpose of personal education and not as part of a life long career is some crazy utopian bullshit, also then the poors would go to university just like they are now going to the doctors and we cannot have that.
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Rorus Raz posted:The Cartoon Forecast calls for a storm of "If Global Warming, Why Snow" cartoons this week. But in the meantime, think warm thoughts about gunfire Question, does anyone who isn't Wayne LaPierre actually still believe the "violent media causes mass shootings" idea
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loquacius posted:Question, does anyone who isn't Wayne LaPierre actually still believe the "violent media causes mass shootings" idea Tipper Gore
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loquacius posted:Question, does anyone who isn't Wayne LaPierre actually still believe the "violent media causes mass shootings" idea
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Tom Guycot posted:non-invasive unless its the kind these types just looooove to try and make mandatory the Texas legislature screws up a lot of things
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Bass Bottles posted:College graduates aren't getting jobs either, though. Getting more people into college isn't going to solve anything, especially not unemployment, right?
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Thank you, Lord, for cleft palette and congenital HIV infections. You truly are merciful and just.Rorus Raz posted:The Cartoon Forecast calls for a storm of "If Global Warming, Why Snow" cartoons this week. But in the meantime, think warm thoughts about gunfire Tens of thousands of people dead due to James Bond violently shooting bullets and infected semen into people. It really happened, Daniel Craig isn't allowed to do charity work! Another one? This guy loooves Polonium. And he's a former spy are people really surprised by this? At least he's smart enough to not use exploding cigars. 
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Samurai Sanders posted:I think Hollywood action movies are part of American gun culture. A comparatively small part, but still part. Obviously not the essential piece of course, since other film industries have shooty movies too.
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itskage posted:I stand by my original post saying it's a bad cartoon, because ... I disagree with Bennett's point of view here. Made this post more concise
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Samurai Sanders posted:I think Hollywood action movies are part of American gun culture. A comparatively small part, but still part. Obviously not the essential piece of course, since other film industries have shooty movies too. As if Hollywood films are only watched in USA.
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Jerusalem posted:Also, one of the things the people who go,"FREE UNIVERSITY!?! The World today just nuts!" always neglect to mention is that you still need to actually study and successfully graduate. It's not just a free diploma they hand out for showing up. I've had just about enough of your Vassar-bashing, Jerusalem!
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CrowsNestMutineer posted:Unless, of course, your entire political strategy depends on people being gullible and ill-informed. You can still manage that with the humanities, mind you.
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Meanwhile a law-abiding, legal gunowner accidentally shot a woman in a movie theater with a gun he brought because he was scared of mass shooters. Thanks, good guy with a gun! Bonus: it was at the Benghazi movie
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ratbert90 posted:More like a Reliant Robin. 
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beepsandboops posted:Meanwhile a law-abiding, legal gunowner accidentally shot a woman in a movie theater with a gun he brought because he was scared of mass shooters. quote:Dane Gallion later told the arresting officer that another moviegoer reached for his crotch and that’s when he accidentally fired the gun, according to the probable-cause statement. Gallion said he fled the theater immediately because he didn’t want to be taken for a mass shooter. If only there had been other gun-toters at the theater, he could have been caught at spot!
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Gun owners are just trying to protect themselves. They definitely don't own weapons to live out some hero/power fantasy.
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