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Zelder posted:anger at the system + vague understanding of politics + blinding, lily white skin Yeah but no but yeah but actually I'm angry at the system and I understand politics pretty good and it's coincidence that I happen to have blinding lily white skin. Please don't microaggression me I have worth as an individual w feelings & thoughts
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Vile posted:Except single payer sucks and every doctor I talk with hates it 100% its objectively the best system by every single metric, also why would doctors know anything about the best method to organize the healthcare market
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Jan 25, 2016 05:10
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It's immoral and antihumanist not to be an accelerationist y'all. Hail Satan.
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crazy cloud posted:Yeah but no but yeah but actually I'm angry at the system and I understand politics pretty good and it's coincidence that I happen to have blinding lily white skin. Please don't microaggression me I have worth as an individual w feelings & thoughts im going to macroagression you into a locker you big ol nerd
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Zelder posted:im going to macroagression you into a locker you big ol nerd I am switching my support to jeb! now because he is the candidate who best understands my plight as a cyberbullying victim
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Jan 25, 2016 05:13
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babypolis posted:i cannot understand the people that supprot both trump and sanders, seems like such contradictory and idiotic beliefs Both support: progressive drug law reform single-payer healthcare avoidance of foreign wars/entanglements tariffs/protectionism lower the tax burden on working and middle income households.
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Jan 25, 2016 05:17
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babypolis posted:its objectively the best system by every single metric, also why would doctors know anything about the best method to organize the healthcare market It's not the best at the metric of funneling your money into a corporations pockets!
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Jan 25, 2016 05:18
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The Saurus posted:Both support: ok you are objectively wrong on those first 3, and the last 2 are pretty questionable
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Jan 25, 2016 05:19
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Trump doesn't support single payer as well as supporting it. Also his tax plan is horse poo poo.
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Jan 25, 2016 05:19
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trump actually came out against single payer healthcare in his book I CRIPPLED AMERICA AND YOU'RE NEXT http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/03/politics/donald-trump-book-crippled-america-5-things/ CNN posted:Still, Trump doesn't deny his past support for a single-payer health care system, simply explaining that "the world has changed; I've changed. I don't think a single-payer system makes sense anymore. If I did, I would say it." edit: and trump is definitely about bombing the poo poo out of ISIS and taking their oil, that's like one of his 2 big campaign things.
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Jan 25, 2016 05:21
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im pretty sure trump has basically said nothing about drugs and he certainly wont say anything during the republican primary, and he has shown himself to be hard on crime before so i have no idea where that came from. and he wants to destroy isis and gently caress up iran so the "avoiding foreign entaglement" doesnt make any sense honestly you dont seem to actually know what trump stands for besides KICK THE ILLEGALS OUT
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Jan 25, 2016 05:24
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neither trump nor sanders are beholden to THE BILLIONAIRE CLASS and i hunger for a class war.
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I'm not fully a non-ironic Trump supporter just yet but I'm coming around the idea more and more every day. Why? Because if Trump becomes president I believe he will be above all a disrupter. Out of all the candidates, if they become president and have to deal with the lobbyists, the political money men, the power brokers, the banksters, the mainstream media - all of these greedy, corrupt, parasitic, interests who wield overwhelming and completely undue influence in our economy and our society, Donald Trump seems by far to be the one most likely to to tell them to go gently caress themselves and actually back up his threats with actions. The fact that he is over 60 and a world famous multi-billionaire makes it hard to imagine anything substantial that any these people can really do for him. His status is such that he says he can't be bought off by special interests it is actually somewhat believable. The only thing he has left to achieve is a lasting legacy of being adored by the masses for Making America Great Again, and I think if given the chance he will at least attempt to take some of these fuckers down a notch if for no other reason that it'll feel great doing it, and he can write a book bragging about his war stories and body count. I also don't believe for a second that he will actually try to build a border wall or track Muslims in a database. He is saying these these to pander to the republican base because if he talked about his actual positions he wouldn't be able to win the nomination of either party. If Trump gets the nom his pivot to the center will be the biggest pivot ever, and an actual centrist working to move the country forward and do something for the %99 is far more palatable to me than a life long corporatist elitist with nothing but lip service and platitudes for us but everything else for them. Our politics are so broken and dysfunctional in this country that we need a major disruption, a serious shock to the system to have any hope dislodging the political and economic elites robbing us blind daily from their position of owning two branches of government and renting out the third. I had high hopes for Obama but in hindsight those were foolish and naive hopes in the first place. I'm on the verge of honestly supporting Trump because he seems to be in a better position than anyone else I've seen in my lifetime to actually start changing the system from within, simple as that.
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If there was any platform there to support other than one that the person simply projects onto him I'd be a whole lot less frustrated with Trumpeters
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Jan 25, 2016 05:25
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breaklaw posted:I'm not fully a non-ironic Trump supporter just yet but I'm coming around the idea more and more every day. Why? Because if Trump becomes president I believe he will be above all a disrupter. trump will be every bit as greedy and corrupt as any of them
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Jan 25, 2016 05:25
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Yeah Trump will basically be President Cheney
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Jan 25, 2016 05:26
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babypolis posted:ok you are objectively wrong on those first 3, and the last 2 are pretty questionable Pretty sure I've heard exact quotes from Trump supporting Legalization of drugs as the only way to win the drug war Single Payer Healthcare Replacing Obamacare with "something better that gets value for money" ie single payer Opposed war with Iraq And let's not forget he Literally predicted 9/11
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Jan 25, 2016 05:27
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Yeah, Trump already has money!! No one with money ever wants more of it. QED motherfuckers
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Jan 25, 2016 05:27
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Pick posted:Yeah, Trump already has money!! No one with money ever wants more of it. QED motherfuckers People actually think this. It's me, I am those people. ... Trump supporters want someone to shake the pillars of heaven and watch it all crumble. That's what really drives this whole thing.
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breaklaw posted:I'm not fully a non-ironic Trump supporter just yet but I'm coming around the idea more and more every day. Why? Because if Trump becomes president I believe he will be above all a disrupter. lmao if you project any harder you could probably get a job at a movie theater The Saurus posted:Pretty sure I've heard exact quotes from Trump supporting I'm doing research! the legalization of drugs thing is something he said in 2011, it's unknown what is current stance is on things. link: http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Donald_Trump_Drugs.htm and http://www.ontheissues.org/Drugs.htm he does not support single payer healthcare. he did oppose the war on iraq
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The Saurus posted:Pretty sure I've heard exact quotes from Trump supporting lol he sure as gently caress doesnt support legalization and he already walked back on single payer maybe you should actually pay attention to what he says
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Jan 25, 2016 05:30
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Isn't it about time the USA had a truly awful president, though? I mean we've had plenty of this everyday "just evil enough to split the historians' opinion" stuff. We need someone who's an honest-to-god insane megalomaniac. The USA needs its own Idi Amin or Saparmurat Niyazov.
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Jan 25, 2016 05:30
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Pick posted:Yeah, Trump already has money!! No one with money ever wants more of it. QED motherfuckers Except he's not taking large corporate donations, the same as Bernie. He didn't need to refuse to take the donations, it was his idea in the first place. Trump is a rich person who is just sane enough to understand money is a means to an end, not the be-all and end-all of existence.
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Jan 25, 2016 05:31
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easy solution to stop corruption in congress, make them all so rich they don't want more money
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Montasque posted:... Trump supporters want someone to shake the pillars of heaven and watch it all crumble. That's what really drives this whole thing. Trump supporters are bored white people who think they have it hard and can be convinced to buy a sponge on the teevee if the man says it's really good, a better sponge than you are probably familiar with
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Jan 25, 2016 05:32
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The Saurus posted:Except he's not taking large corporate donations, the same as Bernie. He didn't need to refuse to take the donations, it was his idea in the first place. I'm not sure his run isn't merely a scheme to get rid of the estate tax
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Jan 25, 2016 05:33
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Zelder posted:im going to macroagression you into a locker you big ol nerd Would a micro-swirlie be a really quick swirlie or a full length one using a smaller portion of the hair?
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Jan 25, 2016 05:34
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ugh politician x supporters are so STUPID why cant they think like ME
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Third World Reggin posted:easy solution to stop corruption in congress, make them all so rich they don't want more money
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The Saurus posted:Except he's not taking large corporate donations, the same as Bernie. He didn't need to refuse to take the donations, it was his idea in the first place. It's key to his entire image of not being beholden! They can't donate enough to offset the "value" of him not taking it, it's still money.
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Jan 25, 2016 05:37
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Trump isn't beholden to the billionaire class because he IS the billionaire class He would absolutely be the first person against the wall in a commie revolution. He's like Iron Man except doesn't do any good and all of the turbo capitalist bad stuff is even worse somehow
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Third World Reggin posted:easy solution to stop corruption in congress, make them all so rich they don't want more money expand selective service to include women, draw a new congress from that pool by lottery every year, same penalties for evading service
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eh I don't think the bern/trump comparisons are insane, both have economic platforms/rhetoric around protecting american labor. Trump has 45% tariffs on china, opposition to the TPP, taxes/penalties on companies that use inversions, opposition to illegal immigrants, remove taxes for onshoring cash to encourage domestic mfg investment, etc. Bern has high minimum wages, opposition to the TPP, higher/more progressive taxes, more social safety nets, limits on H1Bs, free college education, etc. Same protectionist rhetoric, same working class anger - different means to accomplish it
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I, too, feel that the devastation of my nation's infrastructure and institutions is totally worth it if it means people on the TV who annoy me are, maybe, sort of humiliated, possibly, at some future point in time. Indeed, my anticipation of this outcome is more important than not drinking piss from a water fountain or being paid a half-passable wage.
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InsanityIsCrazy posted:ugh politician x supporters are so STUPID why cant they think like ME i think it's fair to bust someone's chops for supporting a candidate based on a policy that they don't actually support
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breaklaw posted:I'm not fully a non-ironic Trump supporter just yet but I'm coming around the idea more and more every day. Why? Because if Trump becomes president I believe he will be above all a disrupter. Should've supported Lessig while he was still in the running.
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Epic High Five posted:Would a micro-swirlie be a really quick swirlie or a full length one using a smaller portion of the hair? it's a regular swirlie applied with a quarter-scale model toilet
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breaklaw posted:I'm not fully a non-ironic Trump supporter just yet but I'm coming around the idea more and more every day. Why? Because if Trump becomes president I believe he will be above all a disrupter. finally we can elect uber president
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Nessus posted:I, too, feel that the devastation of my nation's infrastructure and institutions is totally worth it if it means people on the TV who annoy me are, maybe, sort of humiliated, possibly, at some future point in time. Indeed, my anticipation of this outcome is more important than not drinking piss from a water fountain or being paid a half-passable wage. wethespiteful.txt
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