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Are there even counties that have a mandated last call of 10PM? I figured most places were at least midnight or just completely dry
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QuarkJets posted:Are there even counties that have a mandated last call of 10PM? I figured most places were at least midnight or just completely dry If you're making up a fictional example to win an Internet argument you can change the liquor licensing laws to whatever you want.
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Jan 25, 2016 05:43
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EorayMel posted:im stealing this from yospos since its our self rational interest to laugh at libertarians
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EorayMel posted:im stealing this from yospos since its our self rational interest to laugh at libertarians Water contamination is the REASON we invented beer and wine. People used to drink weak beer all day because the water would give you diarrhea or dysentery. This slapfight is retarded from both ends.
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Jan 25, 2016 14:40
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QuarkJets posted:Are there even counties that have a mandated last call of 10PM? I figured most places were at least midnight or just completely dry There are places where you can't buy beer in bottles or cans after 21:00 so the drunk bums who hang out in front of the store all day asking for beer money go home.
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Jan 25, 2016 14:55
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notZaar posted:Water contamination is the REASON we invented beer and wine. People used to drink weak beer all day because the water would give you diarrhea or dysentery. This slapfight is retarded from both ends. Booze can still be tainted though. Unregulated booze is famous for sometimes containing the stuff that makes you blind/dead.
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Jan 25, 2016 15:07
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Angela Christine posted:Booze can still be tainted though. Unregulated booze is famous for sometimes containing the stuff that makes you blind/dead. It is of course entirely understandable that this is not common knowledge, because we do not live in a libertopian wonderland so this kind of thing has been prevented on a large scale by regulations since the bootlegging era.
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Jan 25, 2016 15:17
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notZaar posted:Water contamination is the REASON we invented beer and wine. People used to drink weak beer all day because the water would give you diarrhea or dysentery. This slapfight is retarded from both ends. During prohibition bootleggers would cut the booze with all sorts of nasty poo poo like methanol or wood grain alcohol that can blind or kill you. Same with moonshiners. Last year over a 100 people in India died from tainted booze like this because it was in the country and police control is weak. History has pretty solidly proven that there will be people who give zero fucks about killing or injuring others if their payday is even a tiny bit more so the first guy definitely has a point.
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Jan 25, 2016 15:28
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SumYungGui posted:It is of course entirely understandable that this is not common knowledge, because we do not live in a libertopian wonderland so this kind of thing has been prevented on a large scale by regulations since the bootlegging era. The collapse of the Soviet Union and the institution of shock therapy free market measures in Russia resulted in the deregulation of alcohol production, mafia taking a foothold in the market and an untold amount of people dying from contaminated bootleg vodka, and the occasional case of methanol poisoning happening ever so often to this day. The free market, it never fails.
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Jan 25, 2016 20:58
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Jan 25, 2016 21:16
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But, but, but statists.
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Jan 25, 2016 21:27
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Tricky D posted:Butt, butt, butt statists. fixed your typos
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Jan 25, 2016 23:24
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i remember playing butt, butt, statists! in kindergarten. good times.
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Jan 25, 2016 23:44
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Novo posted:i remember playing butt, butt, statists! in kindergarten. good times. Those poor kids.
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Jan 26, 2016 00:14
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TontoCorazon posted:Those poor kids. It's like duck, duck, goose, only once you're picked you take a ball and go home.
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Jan 26, 2016 00:19
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Naxuz posted:The collapse of the Soviet Union and the institution of shock therapy free market measures in Russia resulted in the deregulation of alcohol production, mafia taking a foothold in the market and an untold amount of people dying from contaminated bootleg vodka, and the occasional case of methanol poisoning happening ever so often to this day. The free market, it never fails. I think it was in some thread on this site that I read it, but someone said that Free Market advocates happen when people have lived under Government protection for so long that they think it's the natural way of things and they don't understand it took lifetimes and lives to get things to where they are now. Something like that, anyway. I agreed with it
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Jan 26, 2016 11:59
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Kung Food posted:During prohibition bootleggers would cut the booze with all sorts of nasty poo poo like methanol or wood grain alcohol that can blind or kill you. Same with moonshiners. Last year over a 100 people in India died from tainted booze like this because it was in the country and police control is weak. History has pretty solidly proven that there will be people who give zero fucks about killing or injuring others if their payday is even a tiny bit more so the first guy definitely has a point. Not just the bootleggers, the US government deliberately poisoned and killed around 10,000 people.
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Gorilla Salad posted:Not just the bootleggers, the US government deliberately poisoned and killed around 10,000 people. Industrial ethanol is still sold primarily in its "denatured" form which means it is mixed with things like either methanol or benzene to render it toxic to anyone trying to ingest it. You can buy "non-denatured" ethanol for industrial / lab purposes though when you need absolute purity but most of the bulk stuff is bad news.
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Jan 26, 2016 14:16
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Gorilla Salad posted:Not just the bootleggers, the US government deliberately poisoned and killed around 10,000 people. 10k people stopped drinking. I think you'll be hard pressed to find that kind of success rate anywhere else.
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Jan 26, 2016 14:53
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Drinking ethanol denatured with methanol is completely fine like bitcoin mining is fine. You can't stop, and ideally you are increasing over time.
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Jan 26, 2016 15:03
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zedprime posted:Drinking ethanol denatured with methanol is completely fine like bitcoin mining is fine. You can't stop, and ideally you are increasing over time. If you soak it through a loaf of bread (an old hobo 'trick'), it's perfectly ok to drink. It's like eating strawberries dried and purified by the warm air of Success that rises upward from bitcoin miners like the price of the Satoshi itself.
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Jan 28, 2016 19:01
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I hear "mining bitcoins" a lot. What does that mean?
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Jan 28, 2016 19:32
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Hihohe posted:I hear "mining bitcoins" a lot. What does that mean? bitcoins work by saying "do this complicated mathematical problem until you get an answer that looks like x, once you get x we will award you with some bitcoins", mining is when people use their computers to work out the problem getting tons of different answers until someone happens to get x. They can change the range of numbers that x can be as well, increasing it means its easier to find, decreasing it ups the difficulty. edit: I say we and they, but really its all built into bitcoin so there is nobody pulling a lever to adjust things. Pead fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Jan 28, 2016 |
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Hihohe posted:I hear "mining bitcoins" a lot. What does that mean? "Mining bitcoins" is converting electricity into waste heat and a chance at "discovering" the next block. On average someone finds one every 10 minutes, and when they do they win some bitcoins and a chance at processing some queued bitcoin transactions. In order to accomplish the anemic maximum transaction rate of roughly 3 per second, this takes roughly the same amount of electricity that it would take to power the country of Ireland. This is what makes bitcoiners claims of "the next electronic transaction system that's going to surpass Visa!" and "more efficient than modern banking" a bit unrealistic and hilarious. In practice, if you hear about someone "mining bitcoins" then they're probably bad with money (mining hardware tends to have a negative ROI) or stealing electricity or both
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you mine sixteen coins, and whadda you get just more asics done depreciate satoshi don't you call me cause i can't go i sold my soul to the blockchain, lord...
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Jan 28, 2016 21:11
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Jan 28, 2016 21:24
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Tenzarin posted:What happens when there are no more bitcoins to mine? Up, up, UP! Bitcoins are inherently deflationary! IT'S A FEATURE NOT A BUG!
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Jan 28, 2016 21:30
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Tenzarin posted:What happens when there are no more bitcoins to mine?
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Jan 28, 2016 21:37
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cumshitter posted:I'm the bar in the dry county that doesn't serve underage drinkers that closes at 10 (it's a school night). The best thing about a bar in a dry county is no competition!
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Jan 28, 2016 21:38
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Tenzarin posted:What happens when there are no more bitcoins to mine? Mining is mostly performed by a few guys in China now, who already run at a loss because their real goal is to convert Chinese currency into international currencies. So as long as there's not a more profitable method of doing this, they're probably going to continue mining. Every time that the reward halves there's a chance that some of them will pull the plug, but that probably won't happen willingly anytime soon If the Chinese government decides to crack down on that poo poo for whatever reason then we'll probably see a situation where mining difficulty is too high for the remainder of miners, the so called Frisbee On the Roof. At that point transactions basically won't ever be verified. The developers could manually adjust the difficulty back down, essentially forking the software and requiring everyone to upgrade, but that would require a centralized authority to make a centralized decision and my cognitive dissonance just can't handle that sort of direct contradiction of ideals plus lol at bitcoiners reaching a consensus
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Jan 28, 2016 21:57
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Tenzarin posted:What happens when there are no more bitcoins to mine? It'll be 2140 and we'll all be dead.
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QuarkJets posted:In practice, if you hear about someone "mining bitcoins" then they're probably bad with money (mining hardware tends to have a negative ROI) or stealing electricity or both Don't forget about the mining viruses. Why use your own resources when you can infect hundreds of computers and have them do the mining for you. QuarkJets posted:If the Chinese government decides to crack down on that poo poo for whatever reason then we'll probably see a situation where mining difficulty is too high for the remainder of miners, the so called Frisbee On the Roof. At that point transactions basically won't ever be verified. The difficulty will go down if it takes too long to mine. If the Chinese Miners just up and stopped one day the rest of the miners would eventually finish the set of blocks. At which point the difficulty will fall off a cliff and the remaining 2-3 miners will be rolling in butts until the difficulty scales back up to compensate.
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Tenzarin posted:What happens when there are no more bitcoins to mine? The year is 3255. Space China has just built a Dyson sphere around the sun. All it does is mine bitcoins.
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Silver95280 posted:Don't forget about the mining viruses. Why use your own resources when you can infect hundreds of computers and have them do the mining for you. Depending on the relative processing power of people who dropped out vs. true believer that may take a long time. In reality, probably just something on the order of hours since not everyone will stop at the same time.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Silver95280 posted:The difficulty will go down if it takes too long to mine. If the Chinese Miners just up and stopped one day the rest of the miners would eventually finish the set of blocks. At which point the difficulty will fall off a cliff and the remaining 2-3 miners will be rolling in butts until the difficulty scales back up to compensate.
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Wait your telling me to earn a bitcoin all you have to do is solve a math problem. I thought there were like a set amount of coins in the world and people were just trading those. loving. How. What.
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Hihohe posted:Wait your telling me to earn a bitcoin all you have to do is solve a math problem. I thought there were like a set amount of coins in the world and people were just trading those. what's 290+153? if you solved it you may mouse over the spoiler - DO NOT MOUSE OVER THE SPOILER IF U DIDNT SOLVE here is 1 bitcoin i hope u enjoy your bitcoin 
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Hihohe posted:Wait your telling me to earn a bitcoin all you have to do is solve a math problem. I thought there were like a set amount of coins in the world and people were just trading those. Really it's less about solving a math problem and more about rolling dice repeatedly. You roll your dice and put the result through a math problem and if THAT result has enough zeros in it, you win. The math problem makes it so that you can't game your result. You could try every possible roll in order or just roll randomly and have the same chance of winning.
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Hihohe posted:Wait your telling me to earn a bitcoin all you have to do is solve a math problem. I thought there were like a set amount of coins in the world and people were just trading those. The number of Bitcoins in existence is allowed to grow at a small rate. The new coins are given to people who contribute processing power to the network, therefore providing an incentive for anybody to actually maintain the network and process payments. So if you contribute twice as much processing power you should get twice the reward, at least on average. The way they achieve this is forcing all these people to solve pointless math problems that require a lot of processing power, and every time one of them guesses the "right" solution they get a bitcoin. Difficulty is modulated so as to have some control over the overall rate at which new bitcoins. These pointless mathematical exercises are how come the Bitcoin network wastes enough electricity to power a small country and still could only process 3 transactions per second even before the present crisis started.
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