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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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20 | 0.00% |
| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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skipdogg posted:I'd be worried how long it can hold up to those 5K clutch dumps. I get the impression they're at like 90% of what the drive train can handle. They said that almost verbatim.
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Calidus posted:Is the RS priced crazy high in Canada or are the GLA and STI priced lower than the competition? It's just ford being a pile of dicks. In canada, you can buy nearly 3 base model focuses for the price of 1 RS. You can buy more than 3 base model mustangs for the price of 1 GT350R. In the US, you can only get 2 base model focuses for the price of an RS. When our dollar hit par, it took 5 years to even get near the par price on cars. now that the dollar is fallen again, some manufacturers are slowly adjusting back up like they adjusted down, but on niche stuff, it's an instant gently caress you. The price of similar 2016 vehicles: FoRS: $46,969+dest($1700-$2200) for a total of $48,669-$49,169 Golf R: $39,995+dest GTI: $29,595+dest Audi S3: $45,400 CLA/GLA 45 AMG: $51,700 BMW M235i: 51,812 WRX STI: $37,995 + dest lancer evo GSR: $41098
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Jan 25, 2016 23:05
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Farking Bastage posted:They said that almost verbatim. Who? I feel like there was one random dude who mentioned it in a forum post and everybody is taking it as gospel. Cars aren't even in people's loving hands yet. If a guy worked at Ford and said that pre release, then he's either incredibly dumb and doesn't value his job, or fake posting poo poo. Edit: guess the Jalop article says something similar. Well, that sucks. I'm old enough at this point that I probably wouldn't mod a car like that anyway. Also old enough to not buy a 36k focus. 
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Jan 26, 2016 02:28
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Larrymer posted:Who? I feel like there was one random dude who mentioned it in a forum post and everybody is taking it as gospel. Cars aren't even in people's loving hands yet. If a guy worked at Ford and said that pre release, then he's either incredibly dumb and doesn't value his job, or fake posting poo poo. Old enough to not drive a car with a Dorift-o Mode™.
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Jan 26, 2016 03:08
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Just priced a Focus RS, Nitrous Blue, in Canada. Comes out to $56,121 with taxes.  its okay didn't really want to afford one anyways... 
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Jan 26, 2016 03:12
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Calidus posted:Is the RS priced crazy high in Canada This one. Ford's prices are insane across the board these days, actually. Powershift posted:GTI: $29,595+dest And that's the base 3-door, if you want a 5-door performance pack it's $38k.
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Jan 26, 2016 03:25
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What about that golf r420 coming out?
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Jan 26, 2016 03:48
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Larrymer posted:Also old enough to not buy a 36k focus. Why do people keep saying this? Exactly how much of a "Focus" do you think is still in there? Nobody bats an eye at spending 36k+ for these piles:  
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Jan 26, 2016 04:04
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BoostCreep posted:Why do people keep saying this? Exactly how much of a "Focus" do you think is still in there? It's an unoriginal trope that I guess people say when they want to be clever and be a sort of dissenting voice in the face of universal praise, it isn't actually based on anything real. Hot hatches own and I would totally buy a ~36k~ Focus provided it was fast and didn't give up it's practicality at all. Oh this hatchback has 350hp, is a 6 speed manual and has AWD and comes in a wicked sweet blue color lmao are you loving kidding me of course. The only way you could get even more on point is if it came in brown.
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Jan 26, 2016 04:24
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BoostCreep posted:Why do people keep saying this? Exactly how much of a "Focus" do you think is still in there? I wouldn't pay 36k for one or those, either. For that money I'd get a V8 RWD pony car if I wanted power or something else instead like a 3 series type luxury car (ATS or CTS or something similiar). Different strokes. It's a cool car and I'm glad it's making it here for sure, but it just isn't for me. If those things are what you value in a car then it may be a bargain for 36k for you, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's worth the same to me. Suburban Dad fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Jan 26, 2016 |
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Jan 26, 2016 15:40
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You can't buy a "3 series type luxury car" for $36k unless you want a 320i.
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Jan 26, 2016 15:50
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:You can't buy a "3 series type luxury car" for $36k unless you want a 320i. 2015 BMW 328i Sedan MOONROOF, DARK BURL WALNUT WOOD TRIM 2,470 miles $32,985 Certified 2015 BMW 328i Sedan NAVIGATION SYSTEM W/TOUCHPAD, MOONROOF, DRIVER ASSISTANCE PACKAGE, HEATED FRONT SEATS, DARK BURL WALNUT WOOD TRIM 6,355 miles $34,500 The gently caress you on about? The only type of 3-series you can't easily get for that kind of money is a 335 'vert.
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Jan 26, 2016 16:12
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Ooh, a drat near base used 328i. Fancy AND fun!
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Jan 26, 2016 16:17
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Sigma X posted:2015 BMW 328i Sedan MOONROOF, DARK BURL WALNUT WOOD TRIM 2,470 miles $32,985 once you get in to used cars you're significantly in to apples and oranges territory
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Jan 26, 2016 17:47
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Used vs New is not comparable. You might cross shop them that way, and you'll get a much better deal that way most of the time, but a used car is not equivalent to a new car.
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Jan 26, 2016 17:49
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I have to say that, while the RS looks like ten kinds of fun, from a practical, single DD sort of perspective the Golf R is quite a bit more appealing. I'm getting old.
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Jan 26, 2016 17:50
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I have to say that, while the RS looks like ten kinds of fun, from a practical, single DD sort of perspective the Golf R is quite a bit more appealing. I'm getting old. What you, as a grown man, don't want to drive a NITROUS BLUE car wherever you go?
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Jan 26, 2016 18:06
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I have to say that, while the RS looks like ten kinds of fun, from a practical, single DD sort of perspective the Golf R is quite a bit more appealing. I'm getting old. The RS is extremely appealing to me but my R is really comfortable and I'm guessing that, in practice, the better car for me personally for basically why you say. The blue and the giant wing wrap past boy ricer back to 'loving cool as hell' but I don't know what that would be like to live with. I like having a white R as it's ignored by everyone save for the ricer guys that have something to prove, and everyone ignores those guys because lol.
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Jan 26, 2016 18:10
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I have a really long commute that killed the idea of an RS for me. If I had my old 10 minute commute it would have been fine, but I can't see spending 3 hours a day once or twice a week in a RS.
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Jan 26, 2016 18:15
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How does the RS have an extra 60 hp over the Golf R and still pull the same 0-60 time?
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Jan 26, 2016 18:39
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veedubfreak posted:How does the RS have an extra 60 hp over the Golf R and still pull the same 0-60 time? I'm assuming because it only has a manual option. The manual R is 5.2 vs 4.7 on the auto.
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Jan 26, 2016 18:48
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Because the RS time is 0-62.
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Jan 26, 2016 19:00
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I have to say that, while the RS looks like ten kinds of fun, from a practical, single DD sort of perspective the Golf R is quite a bit more appealing. I'm getting old. This is true. Also true is that you'd have to be buying a VAG car right now, which I am not remotely inclined to do. I'm finishing off one car payment, and when that is done I'll probably be looking at a new Camaro. I want to get a 'hot hatch' but the Focus ST is a bit too cartoonish for me, and the RS is a bit too 'expensive' for me. I think I've just moved into 'I want a big V8 and RWD' territory.
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Jan 26, 2016 19:33
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:You can't buy a "3 series type luxury car" for $36k unless you want a 320i. The ATS I mentioned in my post is under that. 2.0T right around 36k. Regardless, my point was that it wasn't worth it to me... which is a bit weird considering the only new cars I've ever bought were turbo hatchbacks with 6 speed manuals.
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Jan 26, 2016 20:03
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I like the car. I like it a lot. I DD 30 miles one way in a 2013 WRX, that I paid 26.5 for that I know is a solid proven design. If I were to step into one of these it would be a few models years down the road once they get the bugs out. Not to mention it's clearly into V8 RWD or even some *really* nice roadster territory.
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Jan 26, 2016 21:11
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Bovril Delight posted:I'm assuming because it only has a manual option. The manual R is 5.2 vs 4.7 on the auto. Ah, that makes sense. For some reason I was thinking that the RS was going to be auto only not manual only.
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Jan 26, 2016 21:24
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fyodor posted:What you, as a grown man, don't want to drive a NITROUS BLUE car wherever you go? The color is actually extremely rad, but the wings and whatnot are a bit much. The ST that I own appealed to me in part because it's pretty under the radar.
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Jan 26, 2016 22:27
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I would drive all these cars. I'm lucky that the recaros in my ST fit me well enough that I was comfortable driving cross country in it. I also didn't really think the interior of the gti was much nicer than the st3 focus. Not sure if the golf r's interior is any nicer than the gti. The spoiler on the rs is a bit much, but that blue is beautiful.
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Jan 26, 2016 23:15
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Optimus Subprime posted:I would drive all these cars. I'm lucky that the recaros in my ST fit me well enough that I was comfortable driving cross country in it. I also didn't really think the interior of the gti was much nicer than the st3 focus. Not sure if the golf r's interior is any nicer than the gti. The spoiler on the rs is a bit much, but that blue is beautiful. The GTI doesn't get actual leather unless VW has changed things. The leather in my R is nice. Cold but nice. Seat warmers are a godsend in this weather.
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Jan 26, 2016 23:18
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Yeah I originally didn't think much of the heated steering wheel in my ST, but its been a nice thing to have on cold mornings.
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Jan 26, 2016 23:23
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Optimus Subprime posted:Yeah I originally didn't think much of the heated steering wheel in my ST, but its been a nice thing to have on cold mornings. Heated what now? After switching to an aluminum shifter knob, it's the coldest thing I have to worry about in the winter. In fact, I might change it back to stock until it warms up a little. The Ferret King fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Jan 26, 2016 |
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Jan 26, 2016 23:38
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The ST3 package of the focus ST comes with a heated steering wheel and front seats. It's nice.
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Jan 26, 2016 23:44
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The Ferret King posted:Heated what now? I've debated on putting a sock on my shifter on some of the colder days.
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Jan 26, 2016 23:50
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Optimus Subprime posted:The ST3 package of the focus ST comes with a heated steering wheel and front seats. It's nice. Maybe that's new? My 2014 doesn't have that. I have heated seats though.
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Jan 26, 2016 23:57
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Yeah the MY2015 has a different steering wheel with a flat bottom.
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Jan 27, 2016 00:06
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tijag posted:This is true. Test drove a V6 Camaro recently. The rear sight lines are bad. When I mentioned this to the sales manager he said when he takes one out, he just makes sure he's ahead of everybody. Winning strategy.
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Jan 27, 2016 00:13
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The Ferret King posted:After switching to an aluminum shifter knob, it's the coldest thing I have to worry about in the winter. In fact, I might change it back to stock until it warms up a little. Just wait until the summer, when the sun has heated it up for 8 hours and then you grab it
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Jan 27, 2016 01:50
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veedubfreak posted:The GTI doesn't get actual leather unless VW has changed things. The leather in my R is nice. Cold but nice. Seat warmers are a godsend in this weather. GTI Autobahn gets leather. It's pretty nice.
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Jan 27, 2016 01:57
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Dr.Caligari posted:Just wait until the summer, when the sun has heated it up for 8 hours and then you grab it I'm drat near religious about using a sun screen when I park the car. Keeps the belt buckles and shifter from becoming completely hazardous.
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Jan 27, 2016 02:18
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Please post your recommendations for a sun screen that isn't bullshit. Thanks in advance.
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