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Supremezero posted:Were you comfortable with tits SC never getting translated right up until you got to the end of FC? i didn't play fc until like a few months before sc came out so it wasn't really a question, but even then it's different because the plot wrapped up with sc and 3rd sounds more like a fan disk. basically i didn't really care about the kevin game and then i saw his scene at the end of sc and now i'm thinking it would be cool to play the kevin game
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If, I'm not mistaken, don't the main plot of Trails 3rd deals with more with the mysterious Grandmaster of Ouroborous and the Church? Which I'm going to assume now to be evil/corrupt, since this is a JRPG. Estelle and Joshua appears there, but their story is a subplot and it involves them (spoilers for SC and 3rd) tracking down and eventually adopting Renne 
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davidHalestorm posted:If, I'm not mistaken, don't the main plot of Trails 3rd deals with more with the mysterious Grandmaster of Ouroborous and the Church? Which I'm going to assume now to be evil/corrupt, since this is a JRPG. Estelle and Joshua appears there, but their story is a subplot and it involves them (spoilers for SC and 3rd) tracking down and eventually adopting Renne The former is just one of the star door scenes, and actually that scene just got translated by the endless history folks last week. It's mostly about kevin with a bunch of side vignettes that flesh out the characters we know and setup the next arc. the R stuff is set up but paid off in Zero and Ao.
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davidHalestorm posted:If, I'm not mistaken, don't the main plot of Trails 3rd deals with more with the mysterious Grandmaster of Ouroborous and the Church? Which I'm going to assume now to be evil/corrupt, since this is a JRPG. Estelle and Joshua appears there, but their story is a subplot and it involves them (spoilers for SC and 3rd) tracking down and eventually adopting Renne Actually, Ouroborous and co. don't even appear outside of doors, aside from Renne being around and the resident knight guy being Loewe (sort of). And the church isn't evil and corrupt. You think we'd still have super good church people 3 games later if they were? There may be different specific people with different opinions on how to get poo poo done, however. Also, if I remember right, the track down and forcibly adopt Renne plot doesn't actually start until Zero/the end of 3rd. I mean, they're trying to find Renne, but I don't think they wanted to adopt her yet.
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Some Numbers posted:There's no way Cold Steel 3 is going to be on PS3, right? All signs point to yes. It's been noted that Falcom really doesn't like changing systems (or engines, for that matter) in the middle of a series. PhyreEngine (which CS is made on) is PS4 compatible, so it's possible, but still probably unlikely. It's possible that it might also be on PS4, though. At the very least, it's more or less guaranteed for Vita, though, I suppose, since they discussed how they worked out the problems with the Vita that were holding them back from improving the game more. Supremezero fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Jan 25, 2016 |
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Some Numbers posted:There's no way Cold Steel 3 is going to be on PS3, right? I wouldn't say that really. Ys 8 is Ps4 and vita so it'll likely be the same, but they might throw in a ps3 version for continuity as well
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Well, now I'm getting my hopes up about a nigh-simultaneous release.
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Some Numbers posted:Well, now I'm getting my hopes up about a nigh-simultaneous release. Don't. You'd be looking at 6 months at the earliest and that's probably unlikely as hell.
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Some Numbers posted:Well, now I'm getting my hopes up about a nigh-simultaneous release. You mean east and west? Don't. XSEED's been fairly up front about the fact that Falcom doesn't let people touch their games til they're out.
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ImpAtom posted:Don't. You'd be looking at 6 months at the earliest and that's probably unlikely as hell. Objectively I know that. Supremezero posted:You mean east and west? Don't. XSEED's been fairly up front about the fact that Falcom doesn't let people touch their games til they're out. I didn't know that, but that makes a lot of sense.
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Not merely "not touch", but not even a peek either. Meaning that CS3's release in Japan is when XSeed can START localizing it.
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Erpy posted:Not merely "not touch", but not even a peek either. Meaning that CS3's release in Japan is when XSeed can START localizing it. XSEED: Just a little peek, this is the finale of Cold Steel, it must be amazi- *Falcom slaps XSEED's hand* Falcom: No! Bad touch!
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Supremezero posted:XSEED: Just a little peek, this is the finale of Cold Steel, it must be amazi- I could very well see that happening.
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Supremezero posted:You mean east and west? Don't. XSEED's been fairly up front about the fact that Falcom doesn't let people touch their games til they're out. How is that possible when they have almost simultaneously releases in Chinese and even Korean?
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I dunno what to tell you. With XSEED at least, it's the unadulterated truth. We don't get to so much as look in the general direction of anything until it's released in Japan, let alone.
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oblomov posted:How is that possible when they have almost simultaneously releases in Chinese and even Korean?
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Finished Cold Steel earlier today. That was excellent! They sure didn't hold back with things going high-stakes towards the end though, holy hell. I'd been spoiled on one or two things but there were still a hell of a lot of surprises left, so it hardly mattered. Also, wow, I was really surprised at the length of the game. Was likely just me being slow, but it still took me even longer than SC, which I hadn't expected at all. Thoroughly looking forward to the next one, whenever it comes out this year. I imagine Cold Steel 2 sticks with using the character models for the faces during dialogue? Unlikely though it is, I'd sorta hope not. There was nothing particularly wrong with using the models for that stuff, but I couldn't help but think that the portraits used in FC and SC were far more expressive and fun.
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Sort of seems like the Falcom thing now. Tokyo Xanadu does it too.
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lets hang out posted:Sort of seems like the Falcom thing now. Tokyo Xanadu does it too. That's a shame, but I guess it doesn't detract from the game too much.
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The portraits in Sky were more fun, but on the other hand you had to make them for literally everyone, which is a pretty tall order. Cold Steel alone probably has 60 characters that you'd want portraits for. Just using the models is a pretty fair call.
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The largest oddity in regards to them using the actual models is that they've tied animations into the player advancing the dialogue, just as if they were still using static portraits. More specifically, the character models blinking. Most similar games that use character models like that tend to have animations such as that independent of dialogue advancement, so you don't run into the somewhat distracting issue Cold Steel does, where characters end up speaking half their lines with their eyes closed.
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Supremezero posted:Actually, Ouroborous and co. don't even appear outside of doors, aside from Renne being around and the resident knight guy being Loewe (sort of). That's too bad, I got it wrong, then. It's less interesting to me but I'll buy any Trails game that Xseed choose to release here because I am invested in this fictional world and want to know more.
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Is Cold Steel as good as Trails in the Sky?
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On average yeah I'd say so. Some people will probably say it's better and some worse but as a whole it has pretty much everything that made Sky so good to a degree and has undeniably better mechanics I think I connected with Sky's story a little more than CS so I like it better but in the sense that Sky is my favorite jrpg ever while CS is like top 5 Cake Attack fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Jan 26, 2016 |
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punk rebel ecks posted:Is Cold Steel as good as Trails in the Sky? I'd say it has better gameplay, slightly weaker characters but a somewhat more interesting setting due to all the political bullshit.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Is Cold Steel as good as Trails in the Sky? Gameplay and interface are vastly improved, the writing and characters aren't always as good, there's tons more silly anime bullshit if that matters.
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the only think I don't really like in CS is having to clear the old schoolhouse every chapter
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punk rebel ecks posted:Is Cold Steel as good as Trails in the Sky? I mean, this question isn't going to have a single answer, but in general, yes. Cake Attack posted:the only think I don't really like in CS is having to clear the old schoolhouse every chapter Eh. It's short, so it's fine.
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Thanks for the replies. I'm going back and forth between getting a Vita due to Falcom's games. Just don't know if I should hold out in case they port the games to the Playstation 4 down the line or even...PC.
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Get a pstv for cheap.
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Anyway the takeaway is that this series is epic and I can't wait to play the sexy police men and women game
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punk rebel ecks posted:Thanks for the replies. There's basically zero reason for the Cold Steel games to be ported to PC. There's not really a significant demand in Japan, and we at least have it at all in America, which is enough.
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Cake Attack posted:Get a pstv for cheap. I thought Celceta doesn't work on that?
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punk rebel ecks posted:I thought Celceta doesn't work on that? That got fixed recently
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Supremezero posted:There's basically zero reason for the Cold Steel games to be ported to PC. There's not really a significant demand in Japan, and we at least have it at all in America, which is enough. A man can dream can't he?  Cake Attack posted:That got fixed recently Awesome. Does Persona 4: Golden work too?
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Yeah I'm like 99% sure golden works but maybe double check just in case
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punk rebel ecks posted:A man can dream can't he? Yeah. Never had any touchscreen junk in the first place.
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Supremezero posted:Yeah. Never had any touchscreen junk in the first place. um P4G had the extremely important mechanic of tapping the screen during battles sometimes and getting a heal At least I think it did for some kind of wifi gimmick.
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