Linnaeus posted:

Seems like the endless eight was better received haha

Linnaeus posted:

Seems like the endless eight was better received haha

Zas posted:

watchin eoe tonight

.jpg posted:

There was a decent amount of people reading the thread, going by imgur hits

Zas posted:

watchin eoe tonight

Linnaeus posted:

Seems like the endless eight was better received haha

Kytrarewn posted:

Now, there's a certain sadness to be had in the thought that she was rejected by the man she loved from joining the collective consciousness,

Davincie posted:

does it give hits on the picture if people see it on another webpage, or just when they click on it? or do you mean something else

.jpg posted:

Yeah it even breaks down where the referral has come from, to some extent. I don't know how it handles duplicate views.

The screengrab I posted last night has 200 hits. For reference, the last thing I posted in the chat thread that wasn't emptyquoted a bunch has 100 hits

Radio Spiricom posted:

to me, it's a metaphor. not just for shinji's current existence, but for the message of the entire show. he rejects instrumentality because it offers a life with no pain at the compromise of a life with no happiness; the two emotions can't exist without each other. shinji is alone on earth until someone else wills themself back to life i.e. he had no way of knowing that this existence wasn't purely subjective until another person existed. as a result, he begins choking asuka to see whether he can cause pain, to verify whether this is reality. asuka then caresses his face, like a mother would (like yui does during instrumentality) and he breaks down upon the realization that it is reality because humans have emotional capacity. but then it doubles back on the hatred part with the final line -- asuka still holds shinji in utter contempt. what the whole franchise is trying to communicate is that love is so potent that it makes life worth living even if it ultimately is so rare and inextricable from its binary opposition. "love is destructive."

the adam and eve reading doesn't really work for me because as mentioned anyone who has the will to live can bring themself back to life, there's no need to repopulate. it's a nice detail, especially considering that during instrumentality yui talks about how "anywhere can be paradise if you have the will to live" but it doesn't really become anything more than superficial imo.

as an aside i think another interesting thing about the final scene is how much it echoes the the opening of the first episode. shinji is alone before misato comes to pick him up, both feature brief cuts of rei... and when shinji first gets in 01 he says kimochi warui...

as for whether it gels with the tv ending, i don't think that it is supposed to, which is why it has its own title card.

l33tc4k30fd00m posted:

Lucky for her it looks like Rei goes to pick her and seemingly everyone else up who died before it all kicks off proper, how far back? Well there is that one shot of her in episode 1...

In one of the quick shots a fairly large number of graves are shown, which must mean a lot of time has passed since Shinji returned. I think it's pretty clearly implied by one of them having Misato's cross nailed to it that he made them for everyone he thought he'd never see again. Also though, one is very clearly broken and knocked over in imagery not too dissimilar to the ubiquitous telegraph poles. So he must have put hers up before she rejected instrumentality too... It doesn't look like she reacted to seeing her own grave very well.

Hang in there Shinji.

Sakurazuka posted:

Anno loved his classic SF refs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumentality_of_Mankind

l33tc4k30fd00m posted:

Lucky for her it looks like Rei goes to pick her and seemingly everyone else up who died before it all kicks off proper, how far back? Well there is that one shot of her in episode 1...

a kitten posted:

Asuka's fight is just incredible in every way.


...maybe I'll just turn it off after she wrecks all the mass production Evas.

resurgam40 posted:

I love me some bookends, and that's one of my favorite; do you think it was one of the avatars created in this event, come to see the instigator? One of the first scenes is the Rei avatar for a brief flash, as if to say, "Hello! The story is beginning now." And one of the last scenes in the movie is a longer cut of the same avatar just chilling and staring, as if to say, "Thank you. It's done; We're done- There's nothing more to say. Peace."

I'm not sure that this is quite what Anno had in mind at the beginning, if he had anything in mind except a giant robot show. But I'm glad he added that detail. It's like poetry, you know. It rhymes.

Raxivace posted:

Now I'm starting to wonder if Shinji didn't just straight up murderer anyone that came back before Asuka. I always figured Asuka was the first to come back, but now I'm unsure.

Maybe those graves aren't empty.

Sakurazuka posted:

I have zero sympathy for any of the JSDF dudes tbh

a kitten posted:

Ugh, help. I just wanted to see what evageeks had to say about the Dead Sea Scrolls because i got curious about if they were discovered and NERV/SEELE learned from them, or if they were just what those groups called their own plans. Turns out they came from space. (according to secondary material, it's not brought up in the series proper)

But, now i'm like 40 pages deep and reading about S2 engines and souls and Guf and Spears of Longinus and oh god help.


Anyway, it's weird that my friends and i used to be convinced that it was Naoko Akagi's soul that powers Unit 00.



Please enjoy this gif i found while searching for things.

a kitten posted:

But, now i'm like 40 pages deep and reading about S2 engines and souls and Guf and Spears of Longinus and oh god help.

Linnaeus posted:

Linnaeus posted:

Sakurazuka posted:

Any information that comes from that PS2 game that supposedly 'solves' a lot of mysteries is only slightly more canon than the fanfic I wrote when I was 17. Slightly.
Arguments are usually split between Ritsuko's mum and the first Rei being in Unit 00.

a kitten posted:

Ugh, help. I just wanted to see what evageeks had to say about the Dead Sea Scrolls because i got curious about if they were discovered and NERV/SEELE learned from them, or if they were just what those groups called their own plans. Turns out they came from space. (according to secondary material, it's not brought up in the series proper)

But, now i'm like 40 pages deep and reading about S2 engines and souls and Guf and Spears of Longinus and oh god help.

Sakurazuka posted:

Any information that comes from that PS2 game that supposedly 'solves' a lot of mysteries is only slightly more canon than the fanfic I wrote when I was 17. Slightly.
Arguments are usually split between Ritsuko's mum and the first Rei being in Unit 00.

Sakurazuka posted:

Me in my late teens

I think the only classical albums I actually own are Messiah, Air on a G String and Ode to Joy (I forget the proper names.)

Oh wait I have Moonlight Sonata because of Resident Evil.

Dexie posted:

The game isn't canon but a lot of the backstory/lore in the game came directly from Anno, so.

darealkooky posted:

I don't really see how ritsuko's mom being in unit 00 makes any sense, I thought the whole point was that it had to be someone related, meawhile the only interaction she had with rei was to murder her & then herself

plus that would mean she uploaded herself into two separate things and that just seems excessive somehow

Sakurazuka posted:

Both also raise the question of how their souls actually got in to Unit 00, Yui and Asuka's mum's were both activation 'accidents' but Rei 1 and Ritsuko's mum both very obviously died without going near it.