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Louisgod posted:Not necessarily, there seems to be a lot of interesting behind the scenes interactions or insinuations when it comes to all the alien races in this game. Affinity unlocks their quests (for new skills) and increases the rate of Soul Voice proccing
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Louisgod posted:What's even worse is when some are at their affinity location and you don't even know about it. Two times I've randomly stumbled into L - once in the residential district and later on the Ma-Non ship - while doing random missions. I currently can't find Phog and don't really care. I think Lao is gone for a while but nobody noticed. Actually, it's Carl  .
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Jan 26, 2016 17:23
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I still can't believe they gave you 17 party members and you don't get at least one party member from each xenoform. I want to put together a party of humans, Nopon, Wrothians and Orpheans so badly. What a waste of a good opportunity
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Jan 26, 2016 18:08
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ImpAtom posted:Affinity unlocks their quests (for new skills) and increases the rate of Soul Voice proccing Yeah, but I think he meant the affinity between NPCs. In original Xenoblade, there's an affinity meter for each of the five major regions. You build it up by meeting named NPCs, talking to them at various points and linking each other, doing quests, etc. It goes up to five stars, and unlocks yet more quests (with better rewards) as well as improving the trades (you can initiate trades with any named NPCs and they will have more and better stuff the higher their area is). That's separate from intra-party affinity, which affects chain link chances in chain attacks.
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Jan 26, 2016 18:46
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U-DO Burger posted:I still can't believe they gave you 17 party members and you don't get at least one party member from each xenoform. I want to put together a party of humans, Nopon, Wrothians and Orpheans so badly. What a waste of a good opportunity It really is bizarre that they have all these species you can move to NLA, and then they give you L and Celica, who are from completely different races with no backstories.
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Jan 26, 2016 18:47
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I can understand why they don't give you a Nopon because they'd have to make a whole new combat rig but there are alien races similar enough they should be able to fit something in.
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Jan 26, 2016 18:54
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I use L in my group because he is a weird alien and that makes him so far the most interesting one. Even though I'm not fond of his actual personality, at least he has one. He adds flavor.
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Jan 26, 2016 18:57
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All you have to do for Nopon Skell piloting is have the Nopon sit on a crate in the cockpit using cartoon extendable hands to reach the controls (or have other Nopon on standby in the cockpit so piloting is the collective effort of three or four Nopon). I don't think they'd have to change ground combat at all.
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Jan 26, 2016 19:03
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Louisgod posted:What's even worse is when some are at their affinity location and you don't even know about it. Two times I've randomly stumbled into L - once in the residential district and later on the Ma-Non ship - while doing random missions. I currently can't find Phog and don't really care. I think Lao is gone for a while but nobody noticed. Lol I spared the baby pigs, uh oh
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ImpAtom posted:I can understand why they don't give you a Nopon because they'd have to make a whole new combat rig but there are alien races similar enough they should be able to fit something in. Couldn't they just recycle Riki? And at the very least we shoulda gotten Ga Bhuine or whatever her name is. Makes perfect sense in every way
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Jan 26, 2016 19:10
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Calaveron posted:Couldn't they just recycle Riki? And at the very least we shoulda gotten Ga Bhuine or whatever her name is. Makes perfect sense in every way Not really, Xenoblade X has a shared set of skills and animations between most characters with only a couple of distinct skills (which Cross has access to all of) per character. A Nopon'd basically have to be a unique character. (Which wouldn't be bad, mind.)
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Lol I spared the baby pigs, uh oh It's no big deal, you only killed Todd. Good loving job you bleeding heart.
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Jan 26, 2016 19:37
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Who cares what race they are? Nothing about them changes. If all xenoforms were replaced with humans, it would have zero impact on everything.
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Jan 26, 2016 19:41
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Taear posted:It also means that some characters the game deems important (Doug for me) you never, ever, ever see until they're in a cutscene or two and it's like "Oh yea, I had forgotten about them" For me that character was (endgame spoilers) Lao, and the moment I was thinking that was the last two chapters of the story, up to and including him being the final boss. Good job making me care about, or even remember, a character who's apparently so important to your story, game!
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Jan 26, 2016 20:11
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Safety Scissors posted:Who cares what race they are? Nothing about them changes. If all xenoforms were replaced with humans, it would have zero impact on everything. It would have had a huge impact in that you could have dressed up more xenoforms in jeans and t-shirts.
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Jan 26, 2016 20:19
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I really want more aliens in my party because aliens are cool. L is nice for that. I haven't gotten the second alien yet but my brother hates her a ton so I don't have high expectations. I'd count Tatsu if it felt like he ever helped or did anything. He seems to exist solely so Lin can make jokes about eating him.
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Jan 26, 2016 20:23
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Are there more requirements to unlock the Lobster Quest than shown online? I'm well past Chapter 3 but I cannot find a lobster anywhere near the Outfitters Test Hanger.
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Jan 26, 2016 20:41
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Louisgod posted:It's no big deal, you only killed Todd. Good loving job you bleeding heart. And nothing of value was lost.
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U-DO Burger posted:I still can't believe they gave you 17 party members and you don't get at least one party member from each xenoform. I want to put together a party of humans, Nopon, Wrothians and Orpheans so badly. What a waste of a good opportunity Yeah, I thought for sure at least Ga Jiarg or however his name is spelled would join you, but nope! The second I saw him, I thought he screamed "This guy will join your party eventually!" and I was excited to get a cool cat buddy.  At least you can dress characters up like the cat people.
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Jan 26, 2016 22:52
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The game is too committed to the concept of all your party members being BLADE operatives to do the whole "ragtag team of various species" deal.
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Supercar Gautier posted:The game is too committed to the concept of all your party members being BLADE operatives to do the whole "ragtag team of various species" deal. You get L and Cecelia though.
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Supercar Gautier posted:The game is too committed to the concept of all your party members being BLADE operatives to do the whole "ragtag team of various species" deal. There's that one Man-On who becomes a BLADE and solves murders. Aliens can totally be BLADES in this game!
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Just hit 50 and the Skel prices are high enough that I actually want to think about my choices. Other than one more augment slot, do light skels have any advantage over heavies? For that matter is there any reason to use non-heavy armor? The main advantage looks to be gravity resistance, and that doesn't come up often.
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Jan 26, 2016 23:28
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Silver Falcon posted:There's that one Man-On who becomes a BLADE and solves murders. Aliens can totally be BLADES in this game! And the Nopon who do it to make a quick buck.
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Bruceski posted:Just hit 50 and the Skel prices are high enough that I actually want to think about my choices. Other than one more augment slot, do light skels have any advantage over heavies? For that matter is there any reason to use non-heavy armor? The main advantage looks to be gravity resistance, and that doesn't come up often. They all have differnet overdrives. I think technically Inferno in overdrive is best if you're looking for pure ranged damage.
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Louisgod posted:It's no big deal, you only killed Todd. Good loving job you bleeding heart. I get a second quest out of it, which means more exp/credits for me. I win!
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i finished chapter 9, how do i powerlevel to 50 now
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hubris.height posted:i finished chapter 9, how do i powerlevel to 50 now Go get the best Phoenix you can. FN Site 406 in Sylvanium has Guardian Purges who drop good ones but otherwise just the best you can get. Also get a G Buster. (Same place.) Get as many insect-killer XX augments for your Skell as you can. Also try to get at least one or two melee accuracy augments. Stick them all on your Skell. Go to the giant flower in Divine Roost in Noctilum. You'll find a level 90 guy named Joker inside and a bunch of lesser enemies. Spam Phoenix, hit Joker with G-Buster, repeat until dead. If you can't survive then get more insect killer augments or more accuracy. You should be able to 1 or 2 shot him even with a level 30 Skell and level 30 weapons. (I did.)
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hubris.height posted:i finished chapter 9, how do i powerlevel to 50 now Skell G-Buster. Insect slayer XX augs all over. Kill the Sciripos or whatever they are on the Tallon Rock second Terrae.
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ImpAtom posted:Go get the best Phoenix you can. FN Site 406 in Sylvanium has Guardian Purges who drop good ones but otherwise just the best you can get. Also get a G Buster. (Same place.) That probably won't work since those Puges drop stuff for level 50 Skells. I'd just murder spiders in Cauldros over at like Titan's Table or something (it's a lava lake) for a while to get up to 50, buy a level 50 Skell, get the Phoenix and G Buster and then go murder the Joker.
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ChaosArgate posted:That probably won't work since those Puges drop stuff for level 50 Skells. Oh right, I forgot that bit. Well, just buy a Phoenix and G-Buster from the shop then! The same basic tactic stands since the Augments do 90% of the work.
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I'm almost sure Phoenix and G-Buster aren't buyable. If you can fly, the way I liked to grind before I got all my good stuff was sniping the level 59 Prone at the top of the big crater in Sylvalum. It's somewhere in the center left, I forget what it's called exactly. But, if you're patient, you can E-Scythe them, and then put away your weapons and just step all over them, launching them about and keeping them from actually fighting back, until you finally end up killing them. Rinse and repeat.
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Alxprit posted:I'm almost sure Phoenix and G-Buster aren't buyable. If you can fly, the way I liked to grind before I got all my good stuff was sniping the level 59 Prone at the top of the big crater in Sylvalum. It's somewhere in the center left, I forget what it's called exactly. But, if you're patient, you can E-Scythe them, and then put away your weapons and just step all over them, launching them about and keeping them from actually fighting back, until you finally end up killing them. Rinse and repeat. They absolutely are. Phoenix is and G-Buster comes with a lower-level Skell and I'm pretty sure it's buyable as well, I just didn't need to buy one. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Jan 27, 2016 |
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Alxprit posted:I'm almost sure Phoenix and G-Buster aren't buyable. If you can fly, the way I liked to grind before I got all my good stuff was sniping the level 59 Prone at the top of the big crater in Sylvalum. It's somewhere in the center left, I forget what it's called exactly. But, if you're patient, you can E-Scythe them, and then put away your weapons and just step all over them, launching them about and keeping them from actually fighting back, until you finally end up killing them. Rinse and repeat. They are. At least the lv 30 versions are. I had no trouble getting the lv 50 versions from Badr Basin, so I never really checked.
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ImpAtom posted:They all have differnet overdrives. I think technically Inferno in overdrive is best if you're looking for pure ranged damage. Is there somewhere in-game where they tell you what these overdrives are? The manual just says "can do different things"
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Bruceski posted:Is there somewhere in-game where they tell you what these overdrives are? The manual just says "can do different things" When you boot up the Overdrive it actually shows you onscreen. Here's a quick list I found though: OBORO: Urban series Fuel cost 0 All damage up Reduced incoming ranged damage Heal appendages JINRAI: Formula series Fuel cost 0 Hit chance and avoidance up Critical chance up Reduced cooldown HAGANE: Wels (Verus for NA version) series Fuel cost 0 Melee damage up Heal appendages Melee damage reflection doubled NAGI: Lailah series Fuel cost 0 HP Regeneration Heal appendages Reduced incoming damage Debuff immunity HIBANA: Inferno series Fuel cost 0 Heal appendages Ranged damage up Heat damage reflection doubled GEKITETU: Mastema series Fuel cost 0 Ranged damage up Beam damage refection doubled Reduced incoming damage KURENAI: Amdusias series Fuel cost 0 Drain fuel on melee attacks Crash damage doubled Melee damage up LEGION: Ares series Fuel cost 0 Hit chance and avoidance up Reduced cooldown All damage up Heal appendages Edit: Edited for a slightly clearer one.
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Silver Falcon posted:There's that one Man-On who becomes a BLADE and solves murders. Aliens can totally be BLADES in this game! Pretty sure a couple of Wrothians join up as well for the money. There's no reason there couldn't have been a Wrothian party member anyway, because they're pretty obviously on the same base human model with just a different head and a tail clipping out through the armor.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Pretty sure a couple of Wrothians join up as well for the money. There's no reason there couldn't have been a Wrothian party member anyway, because they're pretty obviously on the same base human model with just a different head and a tail clipping out through the armor. Yea there's definitely Wrothians with BLADE division logos above their heads. I guess at least Cecilia is the same species as those two guys that come and gently caress you up in Chapter 8? I mean presumably. L isn't anything. They should have made Mia an alien of some kind, then at least all the hoops you jump through to pick her up make a bit more sense.
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Taear posted:They should have made Mia an alien of some kind, then at least all the hoops you jump through to pick her up make a bit more sense. Yeah, I could see that. You could swap her for a Wrothian and keep just about everything else in her story unchanged.
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So is the boss of the Blood Lobster mission just designed to be a giant gently caress you? He constantly does gravity and beam damage, has a retarded number of hp, and eventually does a thermal AoE that always one-shots my party. Grinding tickets for days to actually get the appropriate mods to fight this guy is dumb as poo poo. Is there any non-lovely way to actually fight this guy?
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