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suicidesteve posted:Interestingly enough (to me) Craig Kremples is 7th place on that top 8, so apparently he wasn't just some guy. I mean, let's be real here. It's LSV. The Pickles lock is in his deck but what he's actually doing is Chording for Arcanis.
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Both me and Zoness know what the Pickles lock looks like, but it almost looks like it was jammed it that deck as an afterthought. Also it's still totally Wooly Spider 
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Jan 27, 2016 09:17
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Running 4 Bob and 4 Greater Gargadon and zero scry/library manipulation is certainly bold.
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Jan 27, 2016 09:23
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Yeah it seems like you'd have to be pretty confidant.
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rabidsquid posted:Yeah it seems like you'd have to be pretty confidant. 
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Jan 27, 2016 15:04
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Just slot Bob into the new mono-b Eldrazi deck. No balls, you won't do it.
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Jan 27, 2016 16:58
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basically the story is that bob was so powerful that you just jammed it in with greater gargadon or hit//run or whatever the gently caress
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Jan 27, 2016 17:10
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Elyv posted:basically the story is that bob was so powerful that you just jammed it in with greater gargadon or hit//run or whatever the gently caress Treasure Cruise or Dig Through Time is another good choice here imo  .I just think there's something funny about playing bob with high mana cost spells that are never cast for how much bob dings you for with them.
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Jan 27, 2016 17:12
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There was a time of bob+tombstalker decks probably about five years back.
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Zoness posted:Treasure Cruise or Dig Through Time is another good choice here imo The first game I ever played with vintage BUG Fish: turn 1 Lotus, land, double Bob. Turn 2 flip Dig and Force. Turn 3 flip Force and Cruise. That was when I learned why nobody else had Cruise/Dig in their lists.
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Sigma-X posted:Running 4 Bob and 4 Greater Gargadon and zero scry/library manipulation is certainly bold. Even now modern Jund runs bob and Tasigur / Angler together. I'd need to take a shot every time drew a card.
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Jan 27, 2016 17:41
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Zoness posted:Unrelated but in IRC we were talking what the earliest playable Reach creature was (not counting Woolly spider because that format was a joke) This really was the best standard ever. Two good but not oppressive combo decks, tons of control and aggro varieties, some really good stuff. Future Sight adding the first Dredge deck to the mix made it even more interesting, and TSP/LOR standard was almost as good. Good times.
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The Shortest Path posted:This really was the best standard ever. Two good but not oppressive combo decks, tons of control and aggro varieties, some really good stuff. Future Sight adding the first Dredge deck to the mix made it even more interesting, and TSP/LOR standard was almost as good. Coldsnap also added Marytr of Sands + Proclamation of Rebirth in a snow-based Scrying Sheets shell. That standard was awesome.
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Ladies and Gentlemen, it's time for Story time: Power Rangers edition, now featuring zero Power Rangers! Jori En wakes up in lovely polluted water surrounded by dead sea monsters, and finds an unconscious and beaten to poo poo Kiora who's also in shock. After making splints and poo poo, kiora uses some sort of healing magic to make her better. Kiora realizes that she's lost her bident and cajoles Jori En to help her find it. I would say "look for" but she actually has a magic connection to it. Anyway they find their way to a secret underwater enormous cave with the bismuth poo poo all over the place, but then they need to start going through super super narrow passages and kiora is apparently claustrophobic or something so she starts freaking out. Eventually it gets so narrow that Kiora can't squeeze through or is too scared or something. Anyway Jori goes on but stays in contact with Kiora(who seems to kinda suck without the Bident for the whole story). The Bident starts moving so Jori has to hurry and she stumbles across a nest of Goblin Dark-Dwellers, who attack her. She knocks them off-balance by basically causing big soundwaves and then runs in and fights it off one of the off-balance goblins but gets badly hurt. She drags herself and the Bident over to Kiora, who is suddenly able now to rip apart the cave system(rip goblins, probably jealous that they're a better card than she is) and they go to the surface. Fin. Elyv fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Jan 27, 2016 |
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The Shortest Path posted:This really was the best standard ever. Two good but not oppressive combo decks, tons of control and aggro varieties, some really good stuff. Future Sight adding the first Dredge deck to the mix made it even more interesting, and TSP/LOR standard was almost as good. Yeah, I was thinking almost exactly this. LOR/ALA and ALA/ZEN were still ok, and then things never quite recovered after SOM. ... Also is it really Solar Flare if it doesn't have reanimation spells in it?
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Hi-rez Jori
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Hellsau posted:Coldsnap also added Marytr of Sands + Proclamation of Rebirth in a snow-based Scrying Sheets shell. That standard was awesome. Martyrtron was also a really sweet deck. JerryLee posted:
I think zombify rotated out with 9ed, but also Angel of Despair is the key "solar flare" card obviously, take it from the deck namer: quote:I named this deck Taiyo-Ken after major Dragon Ball's technique, because Angel of Despair looks like Krilin. Solar Flare is the English name of Taiyo-Ken. I love to give decks cool names, as it's much better that a simple deck name like U/W/B control. Zoness fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Jan 27, 2016 |
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Well yes, but in ISD standard, the Solar Flare name was inherited by a deck that was Esper reanimator without Angel of Despair proper, so clearly the reanimation ended up being the salient feature. 
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Elyv posted:
And now, time for "man Wizards' story department doesn't even know their own mediocre story" In this OGW story summary article, also posted today, we have the line quote:with Kiora planeswalking away from her home world in despair. OTOH the actual story article in question straight up has her on Zendikar and implies that she wants her bident back so she can get another crack at Kozilek
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Elyv posted:And now, time for "man Wizards' story department doesn't even know their own mediocre story" lol that's a pretty big oversight
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Jan 27, 2016 18:32
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Serious question, would there be interest in doing an old standard tournament/league on xmage? I feel like we could have a lot of fun with rav/tsp standard.
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Maybe she leaves after that last story
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They probably should not have published a story that Bonds of Mortality, which originally read: "Creatures your opponents control lose hexproof and indestructible and can't have hexproof or indestructible" had to be changed to an activated ability because for "lose [ability] and can't have [ability]" to actually function in MTGO, every single card with that grants the ability has to be hardcoded to specifically interact with the card that causes the granting card to not grant it.
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Angry Grimace posted:They probably should not have published a story that Bonds of Mortality, which originally read: "Creatures your opponents control lose hexproof and indestructible and can't have hexproof or indestructible" had to be changed to an activated ability because for "lose [ability] and can't have [ability]" to actually function in MTGO, every single card with that grants the ability has to be hardcoded to specifically interact with the card that causes the granting card to not grant it. MTGO code gets ever more beautiful every time I hear about it. Here's the article for anyone interested.
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Ramos posted:MTGO code gets ever more beautiful every time I hear about it. Here's the article for anyone interested. oh my god
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lol how does it take a year to rewrite their mana payment system
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quote:After learning the lesson from the Archetypes, we had a series of conversations with Lead Developer of Oath Ian Duke to figure out how we could tweak this to be easier to code. At first, he pointed out that we'd already used this exact template, but as we explained the nature of the problem, he agreed that changing the card was the best option we had. 
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JerryLee posted:Well yes, but in ISD standard, the Solar Flare name was inherited by a deck that was Esper reanimator without Angel of Despair proper, so clearly the reanimation ended up being the salient feature. I thought that ISD standard deck was called solar flare because, y'know, it had Sun Titan in it, but apparently the name actually had nothing to do with sun titan. Which is dumb because that explanation makes more sense than whatever nonsense the original reasoning was.
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Entropic posted:I thought that ISD standard deck was called solar flare because, y'know, it had Sun Titan in it, but apparently the name actually had nothing to do with sun titan. Which is dumb because that explanation makes more sense than whatever nonsense the original reasoning was. Hating on DBZ is Forbidden
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Jan 27, 2016 20:56
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Mtgo is held together with duct tape
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playground tough posted:lol how does it take a year to rewrite their mana payment system Going back to the constant complaints that the salary is super low for developers in that area, and that they are struggling to keep and hire new people for the development teams. I wonder if the side effect is that the people who DO agree to go on and take lesser pay pretty much demand they get to be lazy as gently caress. I mean if they try to get on to those guys they can just laugh and truthfully state that replacing them would cost more money than just letting it ride, and Wizards seems okay with just letting it ride..... Also the drat thing is the perfect example of spaghetti code, a new hire would probably take a few months just parsing what has been done previously. It's not unheard of for people in IT to leverage the fact that they are in a lovely paying position that will take a long time for someone else to get up to speed, into "I do the bare minimum, and only the bare minimum, what are you gonna do? Fire me? If I actually have to work I will go get a job where I get paid actual money" anglachel fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Jan 27, 2016 |
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Mtgo is held together with duct tape If only it were duct tape, it's actually held together with wet toilet paper.
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Jan 27, 2016 21:00
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I want a source code leak from MTGO soooo bad.
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Cactrot posted:If only it were duct tape, it's actually held together with wet toilet paper. Toilet paper is the poorererer man's duct tape
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I'm not saying this deck is good, but I am saying its fun. Especially the Oath of Gideon into Sorin combo wombo. 4 Oath of Nissa 3 Oath of Gideon 4 Den Protector 2 Anafenza, the Foremost 3 Silkwrap 4 Stasis Snare 1 Murderous Cut 4 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar 4 Nissa, Voice of Zendikar 3 Sorin, Solemn Visitor 2 Ob Nixilis Reignited Land: 4 Wooded Foothills 2 Hissing Quagmire 2 Llanowar Wastes 2 Canopy Vista 4 Flooded Strand 3 Shambling Vent 1 Smoldering Marsh 1 Sunken Hollow 3 Windswept Heath 2 Plains 1 Swamp 1 Forest Sideboard: 3 Duress 3 Flaying Tendrils 3 Hallowed Moonlight 1 Painful Truths 2 Surge of Righteousness 3 Arashin Cleric
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Entropic posted:I want a source code leak from MTGO soooo bad.
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You need two oaths of gideon for the wombo combo though?
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The Shortest Path posted:You need two oaths of gideon for the wombo combo though? You can't have 2 of them to begin with
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Oh they're legendary, right. So what's the combo you're talking about then? Sorin needs +2 to ult immediately
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It's like, actually not that crazy to think that a full rewrite of one of the core systems of the game, that touches client interaction, game logic, visuals, a million different cost payment prompts, etc. would take a serious amount of time. Especially while they're trying to maintain forward progress on implementing upcoming sets. But also, like everyone else, Entropic posted:I want a source code leak from MTGO soooo bad.
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