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Jan 27, 2016 20:11
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Jan 27, 2016 20:34
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Rexroom posted:Shouldn't this be on the scandipol thread, or don't they want you there anymore? he näkevät sen rasistisena propagandana
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Triple A posted:he näkevät sen rasistisena propagandana Speaking of racist propaganda, Patriootti have been spreading pamphlets in schools claiming the holocaust is a hoax. You know, to encourage independent thought.
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Rexroom posted:Speaking of racist propaganda, Patriootti have been spreading pamphlets in schools claiming the holocaust is a hoax. You know, to encourage independent thought. Is Ligur even allowed to approach schools?
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Jan 27, 2016 21:07
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Nenonen posted:Is Ligur even allowed to approach schools? Hey now what am I going to post?
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Why are nazis denying the the holocaust? If jews are evil shouldn't they be like, proud about it.
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Jan 27, 2016 21:14
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Puistokemisti posted:http://www.iltasanomat.fi/ulkomaat/art-1450782760890.html I'm shocked that it even reached the courts. Rexroom posted:Shouldn't this be on the scandipol thread, or don't they want you there anymore? You could try posting it there. Please let us know how it went.
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doverhog posted:Why are nazis denying the the holocaust? If jews are evil shouldn't they be like, proud about it. The holocaust is like a holy talisman keeping the specter of national socialism in check, so if one is to break it, Hitler will come back from the grave and lead his chosen übermensch to the thousand year reich. Or something like that, I dunno.
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doverhog posted:Why are nazis denying the the holocaust? If jews are evil shouldn't they be like, proud about it. Well, killing millions of innocents is bad. And nazis weren't bad, no siree. Oh, jews? Well if holocaust was real, then those bastards would have deserved it and one kind of wishes that the holocaust should have happened. But it didn't, because nazis aren't evil people. Unlike those jews. Yeah it's not the solidest of logic, but that's the way it goes. If it makes nazis look cool, like conquering half of Europe, it's good and true. If it makes nazis look bad, like torture and genocide, it's bad and false. This can even transcend time because I've heard people say that nazi atrocities made in 1939-1943 were okay because Allies made their own atrocities in 1944-1945. And I know you're going to ask, "Why Allies made their atrocities"? Well because they're evil, duhh. Nazis just saw this beforehand and revenged those atrocities before they even happened!
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OhYeah posted:You could try posting it there. Please let us know how it went. Maybe we should collectively raid the scandipol thread. Haven't been there personally but I've heard some rumours. Maybe together we could do it!
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Puistokemisti posted:http://www.iltasanomat.fi/ulkomaat/art-1450782760890.html It's still, and always will be creepy they couldn't give a poo poo something like that happens, but will freak out totally if someone posts about it when it does happen. I'm just loving happy Finland didn't turn out like that. There was a major push towards that a decade or so ago but IMO we dodged that bullet, phew.
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SnowblindFatal posted:Maybe we should collectively raid the scandipol thread. Haven't been there personally but I've heard some rumours. Maybe together we could do it! You can't argue with these people, you can only troll them. At which point you just might get probated or banned. I'm not sure it's worth it. Then again, it would probably be extremely fun.
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OhYeah posted:You can't argue with these people, you can only troll them. At which point you just might get probated or banned. I'm not sure it's worth it. Hooly poo poo I just took a peek and yeah I'm a bit scared now. The loudest ones seem to hold the view that muslims of the world are as progressive as westerners? Or they don't care that they aren't? This is what I was talking about a few pages back. Anti immigration shouldn't be considered a bad thing by itself but rather be judged by the effects it causes. Currently it seems that pro immigration ideology is planting the seeds for future holocaust, so to speak. gently caress it, bedtime. SnowblindFatal fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Jan 28, 2016 |
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OhYeah posted:You can't argue with these people, you can only troll them. At which point you just might get probated or banned. I'm not sure it's worth it. But enough about Finnish Politics Megathread II.
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SnowblindFatal posted:Hooly poo poo I just took a peek and yeah I'm a bit scared now. The loudest ones seem to hold the view that muslims of the world are as progressive as westerners? Or they don't care that they aren't? This is what I was talking about a few pages back. Anti immigration shouldn't be considered a bad thing by itself but rather be judged by the effects it causes. Currently it seems that pro immigration ideology is planting the seeds for future holocaust, so to speak. At one point they actually tried to convince me that immigrants from Northern-Africa and Middle-East hold exactly the same views as us on subjects like gender equality and gay rights. I pointed out to a very large scale survey which proved that it can't possibly be true, after which it was dismissed as ultra-right wing nazi propaganda.
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Rexroom posted:Anyway the saga of Sunny Car Center is apparently not over yet: This time around a reporter reveals the identity of a leaker who brought attention to the whole shady business dealings in Sambia, and now the city government of Hämeenlinna is under pressure. lol the guy could have been a whistleblower in the most ridiculous scam of the 2010s, but he too believed that there actually is some investment money that exists.
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OhYeah posted:At one point they actually tried to convince me that immigrants from Northern-Africa and Middle-East hold exactly the same views as us on subjects like gender equality and gay rights. I pointed out to a very large scale survey which proved that it can't possibly be true, after which it was dismissed as ultra-right wing nazi propaganda. In the interest of accuracy this didn't actually happen, and you left Scandipol in a huff because people were making fun of you for unironically linking to MV-lehti and other publications of a similar caliber when asked to back up your claims. SnowblindFatal posted:Hooly poo poo I just took a peek and yeah I'm a bit scared now. The loudest ones seem to hold the view that muslims of the world are as progressive as westerners? Or they don't care that they aren't? This is what I was talking about a few pages back. Anti immigration shouldn't be considered a bad thing by itself but rather be judged by the effects it causes. Accomplishments of anti-immigration in our fair country so far: - Nazis patrolling the streets - No actual reduction in the amoung of refugees arriving - Soini got into government, proceeded to poo poo the bed I suppose the last one might be a positive in the long term, but so far this ideology seems to fall solidly into the bad thing category on its own merits. SnowblindFatal posted:Currently it seems that pro immigration ideology is planting the seeds for future holocaust, so to speak. Are you drunkposting or something?
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 if you read this:http://seura.fi/isanpikajuna/2016/01/26/natseja-ei-ole-olemassakaan/?shared=5760-1fb7a984-999 Oh wait I meant if you read this as non-sarcastic, it's literally what Ligur keeps saying in this thread.
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The first rule of nazi club: "Nazis don't exist. You whore  "
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Guilt by association and secret nazis again? Why, I never.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Are you drunkposting or something? Sharp and accurate call, but even now I still stand by it. I'd say it's quite reasonable to say that the increased influx of newcomers has hardened attitudes towards them. Those attitudes are further amplified by the culture of downplaying the problems of immigration (for example: all the crimes that haven't been investigated due to fear of being labelled as a racist). If the current trend continues, people will become so hostile towards immigrants that we will start seeing actually harsh poo poo going down. Are you MDMA-posting?
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SnowblindFatal posted:Sharp and accurate call, but even now I still stand by it. I'd say it's quite reasonable to say that the increased influx of newcomers has hardened attitudes towards them. Or it might be that there's a minority of people who really dislike the idea of swarthy people existing in our fair land that has gotten louder about it. Or it might be that attitudes have polarized. But even if we accept your claim for the sake of argument, I don't really see the relevance here. How does it support your earlier claim? SnowblindFatal posted:Those attitudes are further amplified by the culture of downplaying the problems of immigration (for example: all the crimes that haven't been investigated due to fear of being labelled as a racist). If the current trend continues, people will become so hostile towards immigrants that we will start seeing actually harsh poo poo going down. Is there actually any evidence of some systematic aversion againt investigating crimes due to fear of being labelled as a racist in Finland, or is this another grandiose claim made by the usual suspects when confronted with the fact that the statistics don't actually show that all foreigners are criminal scum? Besides that, the whole narrative about the inevitable victorious march of the far-right would be a bit more convincing if there still was some kind of jytky going on as opposed to the wet fart that persut turned out ot be. SnowblindFatal posted:Are you MDMA-posting? Naw, man. In fact, I'm far too sober for this poo poo.
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You find it unbelievable that people get pissed off when non invited guests arrive in tens of thousands, expect you to pay for everything and also behave like poo poo on the side? Cool. I wouldn't want to live on the Planet Naive though.
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Ligur posted:
I can only speak for myself, obviously, but don't mistake my aversion to OhYeah-style “neekerit commits a crime” RSS-feed posting for a lack of concern. It is not, I assure you. Nor is criminal North-African vagrants and street children an issue that goes unnoticed generally, despite however much you imagine it to be the case. Cake Smashing Boob fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Jan 28, 2016 |
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Cerebral Bore posted:Or it might be that there's a minority of people who really dislike the idea of swarthy people existing in our fair land that has gotten louder about it. Or it might be that attitudes have polarized. Cerebral Bore posted:Is there actually any evidence of some systematic aversion againt investigating crimes due to fear of being labelled as a racist in Finland, or is this another grandiose claim made by the usual suspects when confronted with the fact that the statistics don't actually show that all foreigners are criminal scum? If you think that this doesn't count because it's just Britain and Sweden then how do you see that Finland is so much different from those countries? Human psyche is quite an universal thing and our culture is very close to the two mentioned here. Cerebral Bore posted:Besides that, the whole narrative about the inevitable victorious march of the far-right would be a bit more convincing if there still was some kind of jytky going on as opposed to the wet fart that persut turned out ot be.
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Ligur posted:You find it unbelievable that people get pissed off when non invited guests arrive in tens of thousands, expect you to pay for everything and also behave like poo poo on the side? loving brown people showing up at my door by the tens of thousands uninvited and i dont even have enough coffee for tomorrow morning. Gonna call over my buddy niggerstomper58 who will insanely and brutally murder all of them with bazookas if they don't go back to their war-torn countries. Ungrateful pricks
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SnowblindFatal posted:What earlier claim are you talking about? If attitudes keep on getting harsher, it will eventually lead to systematic violence. As Ligur said, it's extremely naive to think that people don't get angry when their money is being spent on things they don't want it to be spent on. You're portraying systematic violence as something natural and inevitable, when it is anything but. Not even the koks go out and lynch the poor or disabled because they're taking are tax euros. Also Ligur is just being salty because his glorious fuhrer ended up as a bitch to a hihhuli and a hurri. SnowblindFatal posted:http://www.hs.fi/paivanlehti/17012016/a1452832390604 I don't know why I have to explain this, but Finland is, in fact, not Sweden or the U.K. and something happening in country X is not in itself evidence that it's happening here as well. SnowblindFatal posted:You don't think that people abandoned persus because they were too mild in their rhetoric? I don't think that economic matters could've caused such a dramatic decrease in popularity. The party has mostly identified itself as a nationalistic one, and their soft way of handling the immigration business is most likely what caused their supporters to disappear. I would expect to see a more of a hardliner party in the future or something similar. The persu collapse in the polls is mirrored almost exactly by SDP gains. It's petty obvious that this is mainly caused by working-class people who were fooled by Soini pretending to be on the left economically flocking back to the traditional leftwing party. Cerebral Bore fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Jan 28, 2016 |
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Cerebral Bore posted:You're portraying systematic violence as something natural and inevitable, when it is anything but. Not even the koks go out and lynch the poor or disabled because they're taking are tax euros.
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SnowblindFatal posted:"Hmm, I don't know where you're getting this idea of humans being violent." Hahahahahah Jesus Christ what planet do you live on!? The one where basic reading comprehension isn't unheard of. Also you might want to look into sobering up before posting any more.
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Ligur posted:You find it unbelievable that people get pissed off when non invited guests arrive in tens of thousands, expect you to pay for everything and also behave like poo poo on the side? Yes all of the tens of thousands are even at this very moment out there on our streets, raping and pillaging and shouting their musselman curses and burning cars and no wait actually they aren't
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monien vuosikymmenien tai -satojen rauhanjaksot eivät ole historiassa poikkeus, mutta ne ovat aina päättyneet sotaan. väkivallassa on se hyvä puoli, että sitä ymmärtää kaikki eliöt alimmasta ameebasta aina korkeimpaan punavihreään humanistiin asti. useimmilta unohtuu, että ihminen on lajina vitun tyhmä elukka, ja useimmiten resurssien huvetessa kilpailu ja sitä myöten väkivalta lisääntyy lajista riippumatta. jos joku aikuisten oikeesti luulee, ettei esim. euroopassa sodita enää koskaan niin terveisiä 1900-luvun alusta ja 
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Cerebral Bore posted:The persu collapse in the polls is mirrored almost exactly by SDP gains. It's petty obvious that this is mainly caused by working-class people who were fooled by Soini pretending to be on the left economically flocking back to the traditional leftwing party. This is something really odd. What made people think that PS was actually a left wing party? Because this was always brought up, even by otherwise smart people. "They have leftist economic policies, you know, they care about the little man, they're actually communists in disguise". Well gently caress no they weren't and aren't. How did that happen? Nauta posted:monien vuosikymmenien tai -satojen rauhanjaksot eivät ole historiassa poikkeus, mutta ne ovat aina päättyneet sotaan. väkivallassa on se hyvä puoli, että sitä ymmärtää kaikki eliöt alimmasta ameebasta aina korkeimpaan punavihreään humanistiin asti. useimmilta unohtuu, että ihminen on lajina vitun tyhmä elukka, ja useimmiten resurssien huvetessa kilpailu ja sitä myöten väkivalta lisääntyy lajista riippumatta. jos joku aikuisten oikeesti luulee, ettei esim. euroopassa sodita enää koskaan niin terveisiä 1900-luvun alusta ja Yeah it also blew my mind when we got to Nietzsche in Lukio Filosofia 1. He was so goddamn edgy! But let's assume you're totally right. Why do you keep posting and haven't aldready  ? After all, if it's all going down to shitter, isn't it better to turn off the lights when things are still fine? Why wait till they are total grimdark chaos.
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Fish of hemp posted:Yeah it also blew my mind when we got to Nietzsche in Lukio Filosofia 1. He was so goddamn edgy!  projisoitko nyt omasta elämästäs? quote:But let's assume you're totally right. Why do you keep posting and haven't aldready ei noissa kysymyksissä ole edes mitään järkeä. kuolen kuitenkin joskus, niin parempi hoitaa homma pois alta saman tien? en ole emo, sinusta en tiedä.
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Going from observable poo poo, immigration gets a lot more attention than it should by all rights. Considering that the only party that is actually supportive of their anti-immigration faction managed to lose something like 60% of their support, the anti-immigration demonstrations rarely get more than about 200 participants, the pro-immigration counterdemonstrations tends to be larger, and so on and so on. I wrote this into a report back in 2010 or so, but casual racist attitudes don't really reflect if a person actually is anti-immigration. Even most racist people tend to take immigration for what it is, a guaranteed factor in society and not one that you can influence that much anyway. What is happening now is clearly a symptom of polarization and not a case of anti-immigration attitudes experiencing a huge growth. Also the people who claim to be the leaders of the anti-immigration movements are loving nuts. Case in point: Suski Kaukinen.
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Nauta posted:ei noissa kysymyksissä ole edes mitään järkeä. kuolen kuitenkin joskus, niin parempi hoitaa homma pois alta saman tien? Kai sillä nyt on jumala nähköön eroa, elääkö hyvää elämää vai vitun paskaa elämää? Näytät tietävän varmuudella, että tulevaisuudessa elät vitun paskaa elämää. Miksi odottaa sinne asti, eikö kannata lopettaa voiton puolella? Kemper Boyd posted:Also the people who claim to be the leaders of the anti-immigration movements are loving nuts. Case in point: Suski Kaukinen. What ever happened to the old school high brow anti-ryssäläisyys?
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Fish of hemp posted:Kai sillä nyt on jumala nähköön eroa, elääkö hyvää elämää vai vitun paskaa elämää? Näytät tietävän varmuudella, että tulevaisuudessa elät vitun paskaa elämää. Miksi odottaa sinne asti, eikö kannata lopettaa voiton puolella? mitä vittua sä nyt mussutat? käsittämättömiä olkiukkoja
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