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Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

DrProsek posted:



Totally standalone. When Bendis was writing ANXM and UXM, he intentionally tied them together, while Hopeless and Bunn aren't doing anything like that. You don't even need to read All-New Wolverine, Laura doesn't say one word about her wacky solo adventures.

Wow, she really IS Wolverine!

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SalTheBard
Jan 26, 2005

I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!

Fallen Rib
Cool! Good to know! Wife wanted me to knock some books off the reading list and I've always liked All New X-Men while having 0 interesting in Uncanny, Extraordinary or Adjectveless, but I felt compelled to read Uncanny because of the crossing over.

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition
The cover of All New Wolverine #7 is out. Looks like Gabby might be sticking around for a bit.

I don't know if I'd have decided to make a Mini-Me part of Laura's supporting cast, but I suppose I can see the merit in it.

Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

HIJK posted:

gently caress YOU MICKEY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXx0pk9EthI

:smith:

At least we still have JL8.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Wanderer posted:

The cover of All New Wolverine #7 is out. Looks like Gabby might be sticking around for a bit.

I don't know if I'd have decided to make a Mini-Me part of Laura's supporting cast, but I suppose I can see the merit in it.

I kind of hope that doesn't mean the other clones are going to die. Their skills could probably be used by SHIELD or someone like that. Fury would probably love to have someone who actually wants to go around and blow stuff up and shoot people working for him for once.

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep

At least the softcore porn is safe and that 100% innocent youtube series is gone.

gently caress you Marvel, gently caress you Disney.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

I mean, I'm sympathetic but that guy went in knowing that the X-Men were owned by Disney who are notorious for protecting their IP.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer
You come at the Mouse, you best not miss

Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

Rhyno posted:

I mean, I'm sympathetic but that guy went in knowing that the X-Men were owned by Disney who are notorious for protecting their IP.

Luckily, there's been so much good X-universe film, TV, and animated content to hold us over.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Oh man, OLM was off to a fantastic start. I liked how Wolverine is well known enough that beat cops know who he is.

The team that is standing over the dead ANAD Avengers looks like Whirlwind, Spiral, Red Skull, Owlman and Vision.

a cat youtube
Jun 25, 2013
So I heard (spoiled just in case) mutants are back to being on the edge of extinction and most major mutant characters ie cyclops, wolverine have been killed off because the CEO of Marvel doesnt want to give free advertisement to Fox

so is there any truth to that?

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
The reasoning isn't necessarily true, but the basic story you mentioned is kinda true. I mean, there's still a Cyclops and Wolverine, just not the usual ones.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

No need to spoil that, it's from the last few months.

It's sort of true. It was definitely the case last year, but Marvel eased off recently. There's 2 upcoming X-Men TV shows (which Fox needs Marvel's permission to make) and some new X-Men merchandise. They're fairing a lot better than the Fantastic Four.

However Marvel still won't allow X-Men characters in new games, and may have shut down additional X-Men in existing games like Marvel Heroes.

a cat youtube
Jun 25, 2013
Who's the new cyclops?

Fsmhunk
Jul 19, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Teenage cyclops from when he first joined the Xmen.

Dacap
Jul 8, 2008

I've been involved in a number of cults, both as a leader and a follower.

You have more fun as a follower. But you make more money as a leader.



a cat youtube posted:

Who's the new cyclops?

Teenage versions of the original 5 X-Men were brought to the present by Beast, so there are teenage versions of Cyclops, Beast, Angel, Iceman and Jean Grey running around.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

The old Cyclops.

The original X-Men were brought forward in time. Young Cyclops is still around, old Cyclops died but probably not really.

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

BEHOLD!
OPTIC BLAST!
Grimey Drawer

a cat youtube posted:

Who's the new cyclops?
Namor, since he is also always right.

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004

Aphrodite posted:

The old Cyclops.

The original X-Men were brought forward in time. Young Cyclops is still around, old Cyclops died but probably not really.

He died with Phoenix Force in SW there's no way that doesn't come back into it somehow. They wouldn't write him in like that just to job him to Doom would they?

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Nevvy Z posted:

He died with Phoenix Force in SW there's no way that doesn't come back into it somehow. They wouldn't write him in like that just to job him to Doom would they?

I'm so far behind I'm not sure what the resolution was to that (if any), but apparently he's believed to have died trying to take out the Inhumans.

Emma Frost is also missing, apparently she doesn't believe he's dead and she's looking for him or something.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Nevvy Z posted:

He died with Phoenix Force in SW there's no way that doesn't come back into it somehow. They wouldn't write him in like that just to job him to Doom would they?

No, they absolutely killed him off forever, while he was in possession of the power of a cosmic god named after the spirit of rebirth.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


redbackground posted:

Namor, since he is also always right.

Except when he thought he could gently caress with the Black Panther.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




redbackground posted:

Namor, since he is also always right.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Aphrodite posted:

No need to spoil that, it's from the last few months.

It's sort of true. It was definitely the case last year, but Marvel eased off recently. There's 2 upcoming X-Men TV shows (which Fox needs Marvel's permission to make) and some new X-Men merchandise. They're fairing a lot better than the Fantastic Four.

However Marvel still won't allow X-Men characters in new games, and may have shut down additional X-Men in existing games like Marvel Heroes.

It's weird because Old Man Logan and Laura as Wolverine were all over the promos for all new all different. Though I'm sure Magik will be the last mutant released for Marvel Heroes.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!
They're just now allowing mutants into Contest of Champions though. Maybe something changed?

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Blockhouse posted:

They're just now allowing mutants into Contest of Champions though. Maybe something changed?

I read that they got approval for the mutants before the edict went down. Though its possible that they are lightening up. Though I'll believe that if they start showing up in Future Fight.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!
Yeah Future Fight is definitely the most obvious Marvel-controls-the-content game out right now

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Nevvy Z posted:

He died with Phoenix Force in SW there's no way that doesn't come back into it somehow. They wouldn't write him in like that just to job him to Doom would they?

That's not how his death is described in the X-books though. He died trying to kill all the Inhumans or something tat Scott Summers would totally do.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Blockhouse posted:

Yeah Future Fight is definitely the most obvious Marvel-controls-the-content game out right now

The dumb thing is Mutants are still super popular and they are tied to Marvel in peoples minds still, so putting them in games would increase their popularity. Deadpool and Wolverine are still super popular characters.

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

twistedmentat posted:

The dumb thing is Mutants are still super popular and they are tied to Marvel in peoples minds still, so putting them in games would increase their popularity. Deadpool and Wolverine are still super popular characters.

Doesn't the movie money blow away every other revenue stream? They could be making absolutely bonkers money from done-right X-Men movies, I could see how some execs would be carrying a grudge about that.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Yeah, X-men used to be their huge cash cow in the 90s, then the money moved to movies right after they signed the rights over indefinitely to someone else. As much money as Marvel's pulling in right now, they could have been making the literal billions the X-men movies have been making on top of it.

Same with Spider-man, only not as severe due to the Andrew Garflops.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




And rumor has it that the terms of the Fox contracts are much more one-sided than those of the Sony contract.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Even those flops made 700m+ on 250m budgets, so they're looking at 200m or so profit.

Who wouldn't want a series that can fail and still make you 200 million?

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


Aphrodite posted:

...There's 2 upcoming X-Men TV shows...

I just found out about the shows because of this post, and I'm really hoping that Legion gets made, holy poo poo.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

Squizzle posted:

And rumor has it that the terms of the Fox contracts are much more one-sided than those of the Sony contract.

IIRC, Fox gets merchandising money from those films and could theoretically hold on to the rights forever if they keep making films. Marvel is never getting the rights to X-Men back, and I doubt they'll get the rights to Fantastic Four back either because Fox would rather eat a bomb every now and then instead of letting Disney potentially make money off those characters.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

HorseRenoir posted:

IIRC, Fox gets merchandising money from those films and could theoretically hold on to the rights forever if they keep making films. Marvel is never getting the rights to X-Men back, and I doubt they'll get the rights to Fantastic Four back either because Fox would rather eat a bomb every now and then instead of letting Disney potentially make money off those characters.

Fox gets the money (or at least most of it) but Marvel has the contracts with the manufacturers, so that's why there's basically none for the recent movies.

There's a Hot Toys Deadpool and that's about it.

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

Every day I hope some actuary at Disney will see the massive potential future gains for getting the X-Men movie licence back and back a dump truck full of money up to Fox.

At least Days of Future Past was actually good.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Cabbit posted:

Every day I hope some actuary at Disney will see the massive potential future gains for getting the X-Men movie licence back and back a dump truck full of money up to Fox.

At least Days of Future Past was actually good.

They offered Fox a shitload of money for the rights to just a few of the FF villains and Fox spit in their face. Like stated above, they would rights-squat than allow Disney to make money.

SirDan3k
Jan 6, 2001

Trust me, you are taking this a lot more seriously then I am.
How much would it take for you to sell the bullet you were going to get shot with?

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HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep
I hope Disney buys out Fox and kicks those execs in the teeth. Give me my X-Men goddammit.

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