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Crain posted:I assume the refuge live stream is dead? DFB puts up an update video every once in a while.
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Jan 28, 2016 05:55
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Crabtree posted:They didn't really have lives to begin with, but I'd appreciate anyone with more legal knowledge than I (any) could draft up even a small list of the poo poo in their hopefully not too distant future. I need to find it but there was a laundry list read out by a state official at one of the town meetings- Off the top of my head: So far: Federal conspiracy to impede officers Potentially for anyone there as a party: Conspiracy, vandalism, trespass, damage to property, damage to archaeological sites, conversion of federal government vehicles and other property, Charges relating to inciting violence and disorder For some individuals individuals: possession of marijuana, illegal explosives, various kinds of firearms offences probably some illegal mods or whatever in there. EorayMel posted:Finally, a skyrim mod worth downloading. This whole scenario was actually made for a Metal Gear Solid V mod. FBI is only getting an A at this point, S is fulton-extractioning all of the leadership without any fatalities
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Jan 28, 2016 05:56
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZx2zJxW0AECOPO.png looks like we might get death video
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Jan 28, 2016 05:58
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZx2zJxW0AECOPO.png Yaaaaaaaay I just want to see them head that poo poo off at the pass.
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Jan 28, 2016 05:59
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZx2zJxW0AECOPO.png The guberment's mind control rays at work.
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Jan 28, 2016 06:00
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Trig Discipline posted:is it too late for amazon? Oh man, if amazon actually had drone delivery right now, and there wasn't an FBI no-fly zone over the refuge...
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Jan 28, 2016 06:01
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Oh it was SWAT that got him? We're probably going to get multiple angles even
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Jan 28, 2016 06:02
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As a Millennial I posted:
Fucckkkkkkkk lol
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Jan 28, 2016 06:04
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It would be difficult to use the federal murder statute because the offense was not committed within the special maritime or territorial jurisdiction of the United States. In addition, the federal felony murder statute is not really written as broadly as some states that make co-perpetrator deaths easy to charge as felony murders. The Oregon statute also does not provide for felony murder charges for co-conspirators. There remain many charges that can be brought. My guess (without combing the statutes exhaustively) is that weapons and explosives charges will provide the longest terms of imprisonment, and are the likeliest route to mandatory minimums. The real money questions are twofold: Whether they can elevate the conspiracy to bread and butter terrorism charges such as conspiring to use a destructive device (quite possible given reports of explosives), and whether sentences will run concurrently or consecutively. The latter question is one of the few areas of federal sentencing law that are left to the substantial discretion of the district court. In that sense, it is a backstop. Even if it is not possible to satisfy the elements of charges with double-digit mandatory minimums, there is little question they can nail them for a whole slew of felonies. If they can convince the district court judge to sentence consecutively, that is a good way to pile up a lot of years. That is also a way that different levels of participation can be distinguished, in addition to different charging decisions. Lower level participants may get their sentences to run concurrently while people like the Bundys themselves may be sentenced consecutively. I am not personally familiar with the district court bench in Oregon, however, if I were betting ten dollars right now, I would say that they are quite likely to be receptive to consecutive sentencing if it comes to that. In addition, to double back on the felony murder discussion, Finicum (and anyone else that may die in addition) death can be a factor in the consecutive determination. That is, a judge can pretty safely articulate that they got someone killed, and run through criteria in 18 usc 3553a and check off factors in favor of a more severe sentence. Finally, this isn't over. If they manage to kill a fed, that act can be imputed to all members of the conspiracy and everyone is going to get loving nailed. tldr, there are a lot of ways to skin this cat, and it will take some remarkable criminal defense work to avoid lengthy prison sentences for the core participants.
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Jan 28, 2016 06:05
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Has Sheriff Palmer said anything since poo poo went down?
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Jan 28, 2016 06:06
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No DYB posts in the last 40 minutes. Wonder if they got drunk and sleepy or something is happening.
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Jan 28, 2016 06:07
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It gets even better for these dumbasses. It's supposed to rain tomorrow afternoon. Nothing quite like 34 degree showers to make your day really loving miserable.
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Jan 28, 2016 06:08
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OAquinas posted:It gets even better for these dumbasses. It's supposed to rain tomorrow afternoon. Nothing quite like 34 degree showers to make your day really loving miserable. sounds like it wont even last that long.
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Jan 28, 2016 06:09
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https://twitter.com/gordonrfriedman/status/692573796906061824 https://twitter.com/gordonrfriedman/status/692574008290574336 https://twitter.com/gordonrfriedman/status/692574288700788737 https://twitter.com/gordonrfriedman/status/692574427695874049
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Kazak_Hstan posted:It would be difficult to use the federal murder statute because the offense was not committed within the special maritime or territorial jurisdiction of the United States. In addition, the federal felony murder statute is not really written as broadly as some states that make co-perpetrator deaths easy to charge as felony murders. The Oregon statute also does not provide for felony murder charges for co-conspirators. 
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https://twitter.com/gordonrfriedman/status/692575691720622080 or is it? 
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Jan 28, 2016 06:12
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I mean you can attribute Finnacum's death to the invasion of the refuge since he wouldn't have loving gone there if they hadn't lit up the batshitsignal via YouTube. I also hope they sit these fuckers down and put them on camera while they get shown all of the god drat media evidence against them.
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Jan 28, 2016 06:13
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Jacobin posted:I am so glad we all get to contribute to hundreds of thousands of dollars in federal law enforcement to boil down to this 'are you ok?' pity fireside session Think of it as an investment in scientific research. Psychologists are going to reap a bonanza of knowledge from an unfiltered view of a bunch of suicidal radicals facing certain death and calmly talking to each other. Prester Jane fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Jan 28, 2016 |
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Jan 28, 2016 06:13
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EorayMel posted:https://twitter.com/gordonrfriedman/status/692573796906061824 yep, they are preparing to hit them.
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Jan 28, 2016 06:13
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Kazak_Hstan posted:It would be difficult to use the federal murder statute because the offense was not committed within the special maritime or territorial jurisdiction of the United States. Wouldn't jurisdiction lie in the predicate offense occurring on federal land? Federal felony murder can be based on burglary, so if you enter an occupied dwelling with the intent to steal, you're pretty much there.
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Jan 28, 2016 06:19
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As a Millennial I posted:
that sounds like bullshit. at "best" its maybe one car with a few rednecks.
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Jan 28, 2016 06:19
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Welp, not sleeping any time soon.
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Jan 28, 2016 06:19
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Man, just look at these guysquote:Ammon Bundy, one of the leaders of the armed occupation, entered the courtroom with a half smile. He calmly placed his hand on the shoulder of a U.S. marshal, who ushered Bundy to his seat in the center of the courtroom.
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Jan 28, 2016 06:19
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Chomskyan posted:Man, just look at these guys he is a fundi and rich, plus a sovreign nut. he honestly thinks he can bullshit his way out of this like his dad did.
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Jan 28, 2016 06:21
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Takoluka posted:Welp, not sleeping any time soon. same. i have classes tomarrow, but i want to see if this ends.
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Jan 28, 2016 06:22
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Dapper_Swindler posted:that sounds like bullshit. at "best" its maybe one car with a few rednecks. They're probably there to clear the lz for the navy seals
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Jan 28, 2016 06:23
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As a Millennial I posted:
Sounds like bullshit, or it might be one of the people waiting in the wings decided to act in which case he's basically dead now.
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Jan 28, 2016 06:23
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A Winner is Jew posted:Sounds like bullshit, or it might be one of the people waiting in the wings decided to act in which case he's basically dead now. i think twitter/news would have lit up if this poo poo happend.
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Jan 28, 2016 06:24
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Well, my mother-in-law was right after all. Ritzheimer is gonna end up in jail. Need to call her and have a good laugh about this.
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Jan 28, 2016 06:24
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As a Millennial I posted:
LOL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd5ZLJWQmss Even if there is such a thing, there is no end game where they all get killed. If I wanted to extract them, by air is their best bet. They still highly likely to get caught, but a drat sight better than Operation Market Garden:Redneck Edition.
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Jan 28, 2016 06:27
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Lol it'd be pretty funny if they busted through, guns blazing and sustaining heavy casualties, only to find them passed out drunk and high around an almost dead campfire
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Jan 28, 2016 06:27
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Jan 28, 2016 06:29
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https://twitter.com/sggutierrez/status/692572062053826560 If this is to be believed then now the only people out there are Fry and the Navy Seal who is probably an undercover agent. Also Cheech and Chong I guess.
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Jan 28, 2016 06:31
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Marijuana Nihilist posted:why do so many people support these fuckers? Can't deal with living in a world where gays can marry, blacks and other minorities are going to become the majority, trans people are receiving much better treatment and religion on the decline.
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Marijuana Nihilist posted:why do so many people support these fuckers? 
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Marijuana Nihilist posted:why do so many people support these fuckers? There's a third of a billion people in this country, anybody can find a couple thousand followers if they're on the internet. Even then, they have to make due with shitloads of stolen Valor weekend warrior weirdos
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Marijuana Nihilist posted:why do so many people support these fuckers?
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZx2zJxW0AECOPO.png In the video an FBI agent approaches the prone Finicum. He kneels down by him and whispers into his ear "Barry Soetoro says hello. Allah Akbar" and fires two rounds into his brain stem.
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