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It's something I've worried about a bit before - will CB be able to maintain the fine balance in the game if they have to keep constantly putting out new profiles, new factions, new combinations of abilities etc? As we (experienced players) get more jaded it will require a steady flow of new and exciting stuff to keep us interested. Already I think there is a certain consensus emerging, at least in ITS, about 'good' and 'bad' units, factions, sectorials. I believe CB have the necessary awareness to make that better and not worse, but potentially it can't last forever. I like the new hackers, really keen to see these Govads though. The reaction of the people on the official Infinity forums is really telling though - just what I mean by jaded. Because the noisiest people are all very immersed in the game, they don't like things which are pretty big selling points as much as a new player does. They focus overwhelmingly on what they think should be released next, what units they want added to their faction, why there are too many or not enough female/male/action posed/static posed/realistic/unrealistic models. I'm quite glad CB doesn't appear to listen to mass opinion in that form, because it's amazingly off-base.
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Well, yeah, that model pretty much confirms an eventual Svalarheima starter with 3x Combi Nisse. That's what they're generally moving toward anyway.
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Jan 28, 2016 20:26
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Eh, if things get stale they'll just follow in the footprints of every other game and put out fancier new additions. They'll change little but charge us $$$ for the privilege of thinking we're playing a new game. 
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Jan 28, 2016 20:36
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I don't think I'll ever actually use a Nisse hacker in-game and a Sectorial box composed primarily of pricy MSV2 troops doesn't seem like a great idea but I'll probably buy them all anyway.
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Jan 28, 2016 20:41
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Why wouldn't they get a cheap LI as their grunt? A bunch of sectorials got new cheap LIs when they were introduced.
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Jan 28, 2016 20:45
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There's the same number of models for Orcs and Akalis but no box sets or sectorials for them.
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Jan 28, 2016 20:47
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Also PanO has three sectorials all ready while Tohaa still have none plus there's a new MO coming soon.
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Cat Face Joe posted:There's the same number of models for Orcs and Akalis but no box sets or sectorials for them. Akalis do have a sectorial (Shock Army of Acontecimento) but said sectorial had Acontecimento Regulars introduced for them as their cheapo grunt instead of using Akalis in that role. I'm expecting that similarly Svalarheima is going to get a 10-14 point winter-themed Fusilier analog instead of making you use a bunch of expensive MIs for your basic troops.
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Anybody up for some Infinity RPG chat? The lifepath system seems like a pretty cool split between the oldschool grog "roll everything about your character oh poo poo you're a one-legged, hunchbacked baker who's great with a quarterstaff" and a more deterministic lifepath system like the 40k RPG. You have 5 lifepoints or whatever which you can burn to straight up choose something off a chart instead of rolling at a given stage in your character's life. Saving lifepath points (and ultimately letting the dice design your character) gets you few small bonuses. I'm interested to see how it plays out in practice, 'cause there are a lot of non-combat lifepath options that could lead to a relatively incompetent character for a game about tactical-anime shootouts. At first glance, the character sheet is some dense poo poo. Someone less intuitive than a D&D 3.5 sheet. Haven't seen a char sheet outside of Eclipse Phase or Shadowrun that screams "not for casuals" as hard. Hopefully it'll prove to be a little more intuitive in practice.
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BattleMaster posted:Akalis do have a sectorial (Shock Army of Acontecimento) but said sectorial had Acontecimento Regulars introduced for them as their cheapo grunt instead of using Akalis in that role. I'm expecting that similarly Svalarheima is going to get a 10-14 point winter-themed Fusilier analog instead of making you use a bunch of expensive MIs for your basic troops. Right but there's only one troop with AD in the shock army pack. A Nisse pack would have three guys with multi terrain, mvs2, and mimetism. And how many more line troops does PanO need? If they made new one they'll probably be regulars with a different type of terrain.
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Jan 28, 2016 21:12
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Cat Face Joe posted:Right but there's only one troop with AD in the shock army pack. A Nisse pack would have three guys with multi terrain, mvs2, and mimetism. And how many more line troops does PanO need? If they made new one they'll probably be regulars with a different type of terrain. Well yes, but that sounds more sensible than a sectorial without line troops. Svarlaheima could include fusiliers, that would be fine. Nisses could be linkable, fine, there are precedents like Yaogats. But I doubt very much they will be the basic option, and they are more elite than the usual '3 per starter box' troops. Can I ask what your source on a new MO is?
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Genghis Cohen posted:Well yes, but that sounds more sensible than a sectorial without line troops. Svarlaheima could include fusiliers, that would be fine. Nisses could be linkable, fine, there are precedents like Yaogats. But I doubt very much they will be the basic option, and they are more elite than the usual '3 per starter box' troops. Right, I'm not saying Nisse will be the line troops. Three Nisse in a starter pack would be strange since they'd all have the same abilities. New MO info comes from speculation on the official forums. http://infinitytheforums.com/forum/topic/36660-black-friars-speculation-thread/
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Interesting stuff. I quite fancy MO, but there's a bit of a disconnect between their background (teams of knightly HI) and the way they work in competitive games (reliance on sgts as specialists, very limited options for 5-man HI links without Joan or de Fersen)
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Verr posted:Anybody up for some Infinity RPG chat? I am waiting on more of the mechanics to be shown to know how it relates to the (especially non-combat) lifepath options.
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The worst thing about collecting so many factions is having to buy all of the great stuff that gets put out each month. Next month is looking like the Govads, Hac Tao and Oznat. Thank God I only play PanO sectorials because that Nisse would be a strong contender too.
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Oznat and Nisse for me. Cripes. Those Govads are good, stupid sexy Muslim girls. Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Jan 29, 2016 |
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OK, Desperados are AVA 6, so... one Despie box, one Kum box, one fat biker in nazi helmet and goggles (and with a beer gut poking out of a dirty shirt, for added sex objectification factor  ), and the last one... hmm maybe a repainted Bootleg Penny?..11 bikers are ~190 points. I wanna run that against a 6-bike JSA list. Vroom loving vroom.
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I was thinking of getting random minis from other factions that I didn't play but wanted the minis for a specific unit and using them randomly as Lizard pilots whenever the pilot has to/is forced to eject. Who's in the Lizard today?!
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Pierzak posted:OK, Desperados are AVA 6, so... one Despie box, one Kum box, one fat biker in nazi helmet and goggles (and with a beer gut poking out of a dirty shirt, for added sex objectification factor http://youtu.be/ixAHUWgBKsw
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Pierzak posted:OK, Desperados are AVA 6, so... one Despie box, one Kum box, one fat biker in nazi helmet and goggles (and with a beer gut poking out of a dirty shirt, for added sex objectification factor 5 Desperadoes with Chain Rifles 3 Mavericks with Boarding Shotguns 3 Mavericks with Rifles (Forward Observer) 3 Devil Dog Units Marauder Lieutenant Grunt with Rifle and Grenade Launcher 300 (2.5) 15 Impetuous orders throwing smoke every turn. Edit: i might be able to swing for a 3rd USAriadna box for everything but the Grunts ... but i don't think i want to buy 6 boxes... Edit: i guess i could use females for Marauders: a bootleg Penny and the Twins. Then Despies, Kum Bikers, and Kasym Beg for dudes. dexefiend fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Jan 29, 2016 |
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The Oznat's not bad, and I'd have bought the Govads if they'd been out a year ago, but I don't think there's a single model this month that I'll be purchasing. None of the units are useful to me and none of the models are good enough to make me want to start a new faction. e: Though I gotta admit, the new Vulkan Oznat would be very tempting on raw stats. Basic Impetuous, simple Smoke Grenades, and a Fire Impact Template make for a really tempting combination. Not Daturazi in opposed checks, sure, but an Oznat doesn't have to run out into the open if it would be suicide. Corbeau fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Jan 29, 2016 |
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Starting in a slow grow league. This month is 100 points. Only real restriction is ITS compliant and not using link teams, hacking, or sepsitor. Using this month to paint a good portion of the grunts for my USARF army. So for the month of February I'll be using this list:  USAriadna Ranger Force────────────────────────────────────────────────── Group 1   6  0  1 GRUNT Lieutenant Rifle, Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 14) FOXTROT Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (17) GRUNT (Marksmanship LX) Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18) MAVERICK (Forward Observer) Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19) GRUNT Heavy Flamethrower, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (10) MINUTEMAN Rifle, 2 Light Flamethrowers / Pistol, CCW. (22)2 SWC | 100 Points Open with Army 5 Or this list: USAriadna Ranger Force────────────────────────────────────────────────── Group 1 7 0 1 FOXTROT Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (17) FOXTROT Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (17) GRUNT Lieutenant Rifle, Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 14) GRUNT Rifle / Pistol, Knife (10) GRUNT Paramedic (MediKit) Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (12) GRUNT (Inferior Infiltration) Heavy Flamethrower, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 11) MAVERICK (Forward Observer) Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)2 SWC | 100 Points Open with Army 5 I feel like the Maverick gives me a ton of options with her SGL, and impetuous order. As does the Grunt with the LGL, and the minute man. We're doing the first mission from the ITS escalation league rules, so just straight up try and kill the most points. With some modifications that include using lieutenants and retreat instead of ignore those rules. So I don't gain any real benefits from having specialists in my force, just included some because I couldn't shave off enough points to make up a whole other miniature. Thoughts on which list would be better to work on for February? I'm a little more partial to the one that includes more grunts, as I know that a grunt link team will be the basis of my army moving forward. But the minute man seems like an auto include for future lists too. E: To clarify - in the second list the second foxtrot is the dismounted maverick model. Sir Teabag fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Jan 30, 2016 |
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Take the second list. 4 grunts as a link will, at least initially, give you some defense against camo via SSL2. More models is better at that points level, since without a proper heavy weapon that Marauder doesn't offer too much more as an attacking piece than a grunt. Also, if the idea is to paint as you go along, might as well get motivated to paint one more model! Dude who won that little tournament I was at put pictures up: http://gribbleygaming.blogspot.co.uk/
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In small games, more orders is probably better.
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Genghis Cohen posted:Take the second list. 4 grunts as a link will, at least initially, give you some defense against camo via SSL2. More models is better at that points level, since without a proper heavy weapon that Marauder doesn't offer too much more as an attacking piece than a grunt. Also, if the idea is to paint as you go along, might as well get motivated to paint one more model! drat that's a nice game store! E: I didn't comment before, but your tournament write up was highly entertaining. Congrats - and the pics of what I'm assuming are your Nomads look great! I think I will take the second list, if nothing else it is a step towards having my grunt link team painted up for the following month. I don't know if I mentioned, but for the first month league games won't be using link teams, hacking, or sepsitor (never used this one anyway..) because the organizer feels link teams in particular would be too order efficient at such low points. That's fine with me, we're still using co-ordinated orders. And my thought with the two Foxtrots is to use them against camo markers by turning the middle of the board into a hazardous minefield. Ilor posted:In small games, more orders is probably better. That was my thinking too. And despite the 4-2 Move of the grunt, the Maverick provides me with a lot of mobility that other lists may not have. List two it is! Sir Teabag fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Jan 30, 2016 |
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Thanks very much mate. It is a good store, but unfortunately not really local to me. I agree with that guy, link teams would absolutely rule 100pt games. Still, second list is probably the better bet. Let us know how it goes.
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Came in last place at a tournament on Saturday. My first and second matches were confounded by some terrible rolls scoring only three points in the first and zero in the second. Then in the third I beat the gently caress out of the guy so badly that I put him into retreat in the second round, ending the game despite me being set up to score all the points in the last round. I got a NeoTerra pin and a weapon sprue with two spitfires so I'm gonna look for a model I can put both of them on.
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One of my Bolts was missing his dumb devil horns. Do I go to their general contact address or their store support, even though I bought it from a third-party retailer?
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Yeah. they're really cool about all that.
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grassy gnoll posted:One of my Bolts was missing his dumb devil horns. Do I go to their general contact address or their store support, even though I bought it from a third-party retailer? As long as you bought it new, it's OK. Go here for details: http://infinitytheforums.com/forum/topic/18901-missing-pieces-complaint-codes-tutorial/?page=1 (if the email masker's fucky again, you're supposed to send it to mispack@corvusbelli.com)
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Yeah, got my little code and everything. Thanks, guys!
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Cat Face Joe posted:Came in last place at a tournament on Saturday. My first and second matches were confounded by some terrible rolls scoring only three points in the first and zero in the second. Then in the third I beat the gently caress out of the guy so badly that I put him into retreat in the second round, ending the game despite me being set up to score all the points in the last round. I got a NeoTerra pin and a weapon sprue with two spitfires so I'm gonna look for a model I can put both of them on. Sorry to hear about bad luck, but hey, you won a prize! Special weapons bits are pretty gold dust in Infinity anyway. Not a viking posted:Can I coordinate order hack? Try looking under coordinated orders, in the section headed 'Coordinated Order: Hack'! Page 149. (you can't)
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Can anyone tell me if there is an official policy regarding model substitutions in "official" play. Mainly wondering because I think the new Hunzakut model could be a good alternative Chasseur. I don't want to buy it and be restricted to using it in friendlies only, so if there is a specific ruling I'd like to know in advance. Also does finally buying into a second faction make a big boy infinity player now? New Tohaa stuff has slowly won me over to them. Also the Kotail mobile unit and the Rasail boarding team seem awesome
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So long as it's a CB mini you're using to proxy with, it's OK for official events. General courtesy dictates that you not be an rear end in a top hat and use like skirmishers to represent heavy infantry or whatever, but as long as you're close, people will cut you a lot of slack. I proxied a couple of minis in a tournament a few weeks ago and everyone was chill about it. Also, the new Hunzakut mini is pretty sweet. One of the USAriadna players at the recent CanCon used one as a ...Foxtrot? I think? It totally fit in with the rest of his (very distinctly themed) army.
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Officially? If there's a currently available mini for a given unit loadout no unit/weapon proxies are allowed, except conversions of CB minis. No non-CB proxies are allowed. That's the most official party line for CB-organized events. Other events are more lenient and either allow a few proxies or have relaxed restrictions (weapon proxies allowed, unit proxies disallowed unless unreleased / we're not getting ITS support so non-CB minis are OK as long as they're fitting / etc.). Basically ask the TO or check the event rules. If I ever get around to running MRRF, I'm definitely running the Femzakut as a rifle Chasseur. Just remove the LGL, probably replace the ghost trap with a more conventional landmine, maybe change the comlog wristguard, repaint in Ariadnan camo and I wouldn't expect any problems even on CB events. (BTW, "conversion by painting" is a thing. I've seen e.g. Ghulams painted as Metros to avoid duplicate sculpts. As long as it's the right weapon and look and it's impossible to confuse them with another legal unit it might be worth a try.) And for a more casual environment, here's a nice proxy: 
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I think the point of that ruling is to keep people sane and honest about it and not run a random assortment of crap "No, that's not a Fusilier with a combi, that's a Nisse with a sniper rifle" "That's an Uhlans, not a dronbot."
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Ilor posted:Also, the new Hunzakut mini is pretty sweet. One of the USAriadna players at the recent CanCon used one as a ...Foxtrot? I think? It totally fit in with the rest of his (very distinctly themed) army. This is a sweet idea - going to cop that for my own USARF force. My only concern is that it will eventually lead me down the rabbit hole of yet force to collect. I'm doing a slow grow league, and since the USARF line isn't fully fleshed out people are cool with me using proxies. I'll be using my two Vet Kazaks as Marauders so I can have a sweet Harris secondary link team.
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Sir Teabag posted:My only concern is that it will eventually lead me down the rabbit hole of yet force to collect. It's not that bad, I only have like 6 factions 
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