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stevobob posted:Bolt is a terrible name for a car. It fits a motorcycle, in the case of Yamaha, but not a car, and especially not an electric car. Oh come on. It's corny, but there's clearly a play of relevant words going on. Bolt can be to scamper off quickly or an instance of lightning, which is very electric indeed. The Chevy Volt however, that was an utterly uninspired named. It's like called a gas powered car the Chevy Horsepower. But we'll get it with a snappy name in Europe. Perhaps the Opel Schnellhochspannung.
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smackfu posted:$30k for a Focus with 76 mile range. No wonder the Bolt is getting attention. That's $22,500 after the same tax credit that brings the bolt down to $30k, and the options fall somewhere in between the $19,700 SE hatch and the $24,200 titanium hatch.
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Ola posted:2. Battery pack is bolted on the ICE version where there was room - in the luggage space. Yeah the leaf ticks the right boxes for me... Except I hate the dorky front end. I want Tesla sexiness for Leaf money. angryrobots fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Jan 16, 2016 |
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For as much as Ford has several different hybrid/electric options, the options themselves are pretty mediocre. Though the Fusion hybrid seems mostly decent. They need a dedicated platform for an electric ASAP.
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Compliance for manufacturer is calculated across the offered fleet rather than the sold/in-service fleet, right? Measure it on weighted average efficiency of in-service vehicles and see what happens 
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Powershift posted:I can't wait for taxi companies to lobby this into a new price bracket. Unless, of course, the taxi companies themselves get in on it. Of course, that would make it harder to lobby away the competition without exposing themselves to antitrust suits.
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A NC Dealership just emailed me they have 2016 Volts. We were not supposed to get them until 2017. I guess with gas at 1.69 they aren't flying off the lots so the other states could afford to ship a few here
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Wow... I had no idea those were that bad. Why even have a hatchback at that point? There's a guy around my town who got one when they were brand new and seemed to use it as a commuter car. Seeing that cargo area makes me wonder if it would actually be good for anything else.
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It really is terribly packaged. Here's a pic without the body: I wonder how different the weight distribution is from the ICE Focus. It's perhaps unfair to compare it with the Tesla, which is amazingly well packaged:  But the Leaf is a fair comparison:  Nice. While it's probably based on other Nissan designs, it was a new platform built for purpose. EV conversions in an ICE body, just say no.
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I totally don't understand why you would choose a tall box in the hatch that takes up part of the floor, vs a lower box in the trunk that takes up the whole floor.
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smackfu posted:I totally don't understand why you would choose a tall box in the hatch that takes up part of the floor, vs a lower box in the trunk that takes up the whole floor. They are probably sold at a loss for r&d and to meet some silly government requirement so I doubt they actually want a lot of people buying them
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Ola posted:
I mean yeah I'm pretty sure they opened up Versa.autocad and had at it to make the Leaf, but they really had at it. Mine's been great for trips to Costco and Ikea.
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smackfu posted:I totally don't understand why you would choose a tall box in the hatch that takes up part of the floor, vs a lower box in the trunk that takes up the whole floor. One reason I can think is that you don't want the battery pack to be the first thing hit when rear ended.
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Saukkis posted:One reason I can think is that you don't want the battery pack to be the first thing hit when rear ended. Ford doesn't really have the best track record with that kind of thing.
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Ola posted:EV conversions in an ICE body, just say no. The Soul EV doesn't have any weird packing issues and was an ICE vehicle originally. It also has fast charging, a 100 mi range and comes well equipped with Nav/heated seats etc for $34k before the tax credit
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Dammit, this always happens when I make bold, sweeping statements. The Soul is indeed a great EV.
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Do any of you volt owners have a reason why I should not buy a used 2012 or 2013? They sell for about the comparable price of a Nissan Sentra. I am turning in my 2012 leaf at lease end. It has lost one bar.
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2013 got a slight range boost, and is the last year with the electric (and remote) charge door release. I think the interior patterns on the seats changed for 2014, as well. Other than that, I see nothing wrong with the idea.
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First naming rumor of Chevy Bolt euro version: Opel Blitz. Good translation of "bolt", also great name for fast vehicles emerging from Germany!
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I don't have a garage or a carport, just a driveway that goes right up along the side of my house. Will I be able to have an electrician install a car charging port on the outside? I live in northern California so no snow, some rain, maybe 2 or 3 frosts a winter.
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Yep I know some people who have done that.
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There's two electric cars on my street, both Nissan Leafs (Leaves?) and both of them have outside charging points with no overhead cover here in rainy old England.
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Ola posted:First naming rumor of Chevy Bolt euro version: Opel Blitz. Good translation of "bolt", also great name for fast vehicles emerging from Germany! Uhhhh... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neobgX2EeTg
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Opel Blitz: Berlin to Warsaw on a single charge
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88h88 posted:There's two electric cars on my street, both Nissan Leafs (Leaves?) and both of them have outside charging points with no overhead cover here in rainy old England. Have you noticed them being plugged in during actual rain? And perhaps if the electrical point has some kind of little cover over it?
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So they'll both be crossovers then
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Ranter posted:Have you noticed them being plugged in during actual rain? And perhaps if the electrical point has some kind of little cover over it? It's raining now and it's sat on the drive plugged in, yeah. The charging point has a flip open socket and the Leaf has little drain holes for when you're charging it in the rain. I imagine all the connectors are pretty well sealed.
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Cool cool. Thanks for the info.
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My Leaf has never been under a carport here in rainy Washington and I charge it every day in the pouring weather. I'm pretty sure there's demo videos from Nissan of the Leaf charging under a torrent of water from a fire hose. I plug it right into the side of the house and there's no overhang there, though I'm pretty sure it's a GFCI outlet. It's as safe as you can get. I DID buy an extension cord cover when was plugging the leaf into a 30a outdoor cord, though. Just for where the charging brick met the cord because I'd have to leave it draped in an area that tended to puddle. Also, I loathe that 90 degree plug for just that reason.
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Mortanis posted:I DID buy an extension cord cover when was plugging the leaf into a 30a outdoor cord, though. Just for where the charging brick met the cord because I'd have to leave it draped in an area that tended to puddle. Also, I loathe that 90 degree plug for just that reason. Yeah, this. Mine has a kink in it because there's only like six inches between the brick and the end of the plug so if you don't have something to put the brink on, it get bent out of shape. I ended up just wrapping the cord around the outlet once to at least support the brick a little bit.
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duz posted:Yeah, this. Mine has a kink in it because there's only like six inches between the brick and the end of the plug so if you don't have something to put the brink on, it get bent out of shape. I ended up just wrapping the cord around the outlet once to at least support the brick a little bit. Why not just glue a little shelf there for the brick
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Mange Mite posted:Why not just glue a little shelf there for the brick I'm in a parking garage & parking lot, not my property.
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duz posted:I'm in a parking garage & parking lot, not my property. 3M Command strips?
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Tesla is getting yelled at today because they cancelled the order of a complaining customer. This customer is a (self described) venture capitalist and apparent auto blogger. The drama is very boring, but in this post he complains about an event: https://medium.com/@salsop/dear-elonmusk-you-should-be-ashamed-of-yourself-ca3d266882a4 Here he says that post got his Model X order cancelled: https://medium.com/@salsop/banned-by-tesla-8d1f3249b9fb Perhaps there's more to it, perhaps not, I don't really care that much. Seems like there's two dumb parties at least to that fight. But anyway, what grabbed my attention was the BMW-review mentioned in the "banned by Tesla"-post. It is absolutely hilarious. https://medium.com/@salsop/my-car-makes-me-feel-stoopid-8ba59c03b3c8 Choice quotes: quote:I paired my phone using Bluetooth. But it wouldn’t always work. When I asked the service guy at the dealer, he asked how many contacts I have in my phone. (Contacts? WTF?) I have 11,000, by the way. Service guy said that BMW tried to load all the contact into memory to you can call any of them from the steering wheel (and maybe voice?). He said it choked after about 1,000. No work around. This guy wanted a Model X because it was a computer on wheels, when a BMW X1 out-teched him so hard he left it idling and didn't know. In context it seems like he left it two weeks, but that seems a bit too much.
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One of life's greatest pleasures is firing a customer. Sometimes it just isn't worth it, and they usually make an rear end of themselves trying to gain sympathy.
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What a dumb motherfucker. 11000 contacts in his phone? I bet only about a dozen actually speak to him because they know he's a knob.
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I'm going to bet he works in sales and imported his company's entire Salesforce directory to his phone. We had a couple of people at a previous job do that by mistake and crash their phones which couldn't handle 20k+ contacts. Collateral Damage fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Feb 3, 2016 |
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He doesn't work in sales, he's a well-known VC and press sort. I think Musk was way out of line here, but it's his company I guess.
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