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Tripwire's idea of balance is ammo nerfing. I don't know why, and it's universally dumb and unfun in all games that do it ( like Payday ), but developers seem to love it.
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I got an Alienware mask this morning. They still had them.
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Killing Hans melee as a Zerker on Hard with a decent team is very satisfying. I wasn't able to keep him off everyone, but I did save a couple guys by body checking him with the Pulverizer a few times. doing a little melee shove does seem to help break aggro. I guess the key is to fight him in a space that has a lot of stuff you can put between you and him to break LoS and to prevent his melee attacks from landing.
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New Gunslinger weapon idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tEYcUSQDyw
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SymmetryrtemmyS posted:New Gunslinger weapon idea: I suppose that's one fun alternative the "How do we Ironsight for dual wield?" question.
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Jan 20, 2016 05:14
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Can Horzine develop some exciting new biotech to bring this game back from the dead?
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Jan 20, 2016 18:33
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:Can Horzine develop some exciting new biotech to bring this game back from the dead? wait are you saying alienware masks arent doing it for you?
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:Can Horzine develop some exciting new biotech to bring this game back from the dead? At this point I am sick to death of the standard maps and play custom servers only. This is really hit-and-miss (this part of the community really likes to play the same 3-4 bad maps), but it provides variety and this is a laid-back game on any difficulty besides Hell on Earth (which should be called Concentrated Anti-Fun) anyway.
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I'm just sick of the satisfaction of getting through HoE by the skin of our team's teeth to be squashed by a Hansrolling.
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Plan Z posted:I'm just sick of the satisfaction of getting through HoE by the skin of our team's teeth to be squashed by a Hansrolling. Recruit 2 zerkers buddies, they can keep him locked down pretty good, just have them swap in and out while the medic heals them and everyone shoots the poo poo out of Hans. That's what I've been doing, I mean its sad that have to do it but at least it works till Trip speaks up and fixes the fucker.
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Jan 21, 2016 07:50
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I just stopped playing HoE after I got the achieves. Hard and Suicidal are more fun chill modes.
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Jan 21, 2016 07:53
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Alteisen posted:Recruit 2 zerkers buddies alternately instead of doing stupid bullshit like this you can do what it seems like most folks in this thread have done at this point and just play a different game until this one becomes fun again I mean let's be real all of us are turbonerds with like 500 games on steam rip
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Well I still enjoy KF and I will admit my solution is a band-aid on a bleeding stump, just offering solutions is all even if they're terrible.
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Even if they surprised all of us and released a new patch to fix hans tomorrow, it wont fix the fact that the current content is stale, and they don't develop new maps / perks quickly enough to retain people. Hans being so incredibly bad is what caused me to give the rest of the game a more critical eye, instead of forgiving what would otherwise be minor offenses. They've thrown out a lot of damage control about the pace at which they develop content, citing some pretty legitimate reasons. But the problems with hans can be fixed by programmers alone. Shift numbers around. Change his AI a little. Let the playerbase test the early access game that they paid for the privilege of testing.
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no but see, they do lots of internal testing, and quote:We see Early Access as an opportunity to involve you, the community, and actually incorporate your feedback as we balance and put the finishing touches on the game. For example, we know how to nail the feel of Killing Floor 2’s weapons, but perfect gameplay balance can only come from large scale play testing. oh hmmm
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WWAUT: http://steamcommunity.com/games/232090/announcements/detail/969765435015868960 Aka "I was wrongly under the impression that the map workshop was already working for KF2"  I swear that there was news about it... but now there's news that it's coming...  So yeah, the internal, soon to become our bane of existance patchnotes: quote:General: ...those are okay-ish, since there's no word of balance changes which are what all the community is crying about. And promise of a live stream on http://www.twitch.tv/tripwireinteractive, coming next week. The stream is supposed to be showing off internal testing for the game.
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Streaming internal testing is kind of like letting us play an updated game except for all the parts where it's not, at all
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tripwire you have 982 hours of my life but I WILL GIVE NO MORE! I DEMAND A REFUND FOR THIS BAD GAME
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OneDeadlyBum posted:Even if they surprised all of us and released a new patch to fix hans tomorrow, it wont fix the fact that the current content is stale, and they don't develop new maps / perks quickly enough to retain people. Hans being so incredibly bad is what caused me to give the rest of the game a more critical eye, instead of forgiving what would otherwise be minor offenses. I'll admit I kinda wish they hadn't done early access for a whole bunch of reasons, including the admittedly petty one of it making the wait for the PS4 version all the more excruciating, cause at the current rate we probably won't see it till next year, or maybe even 2018 considering I recall someone mention that they aren't even going to start development on the PS4 version until the PC version is finished
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I'm still enjoying this game. It just feels like a better KF1 to me. I could never get the hang of zerk in 1 but I'm really enjoying it here. I put about 250 hours into KF1 and I'm at 100 on KF2 already. Definitely getting my money's worth.
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http://www.twitch.tv/tripwireinteractive Tripwire stream is live right now, so far they've teased a few new mods/game modes: -one player is the patriarch and everyone else has to kill them -everyone has only a knife and a welder and has to take down one player who controls a superfast clot -two teams compete to shoot more zeds update: the next class is gonna be SHARPSHOOTER bluetail fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Jan 28, 2016 |
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Jan 28, 2016 21:39
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http://steamcommunity.com/games/232090/announcements/detail/969766177517203565 Killing Floor update, almost entirely just the bugfixes they mentioned earlier.
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Two teams competing to rack up zed counts could be fun. MORE FUN THAN HANS.
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bluetail posted:http://www.twitch.tv/tripwireinteractive All of this sound super goddamn fun. I can only hope someone will figure out how to do a Hidden game mode recreation.
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Alabaster White posted:All of this sound super goddamn fun. I can only hope someone will figure out how to do a Hidden game mode recreation. Oh yeah! I forgot that one, they mentioned a mode with like a "super stalker" who has to hunt down the other players. They specifically cited The Hidden: Source as the main inspiration for it. Also there was some talk of trying to rework demo but honestly I kinda tuned out midway through the stream.
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I found a really interesting custom server. I mean, standard custom server nonsense aside (30 player count, custom music, and a complete rendition of Spongebob's Bikini Bottom), it was bizarre how much it modified the gameplay. It had had perk point allocation and a skill tree like a Diablo clone, a modified hud to support this, friendly AI, and it gave every model a toon shader outline. It's very amusing how much people already can break the game with just simple modding.
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Theta Zero posted:I found a really interesting custom server. I mean, standard custom server nonsense aside (30 player count, custom music, and a complete rendition of Spongebob's Bikini Bottom), it was bizarre how much it modified the gameplay. It had had perk point allocation and a skill tree like a Diablo clone, a modified hud to support this, friendly AI, and it gave every model a toon shader outline. What was it called? That sounds fun to mess around in.
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SymmetryrtemmyS posted:What was it called? That sounds fun to mess around in. The map was called "BikiniAtoll" I think. I don't remember the server name, but there can't be that many 30-man servers running around.
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It's the Server Extension Mod http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=106926 One interesting thing to note, it levels up like the first game, you get experience for the class you are regardless of what weapons you use. So you can level up classes super quickly by just buying the grenade launcher and tagging crowds of enemies while stronger players kill them. I remember going up 11 levels on one map on one server by just spamming the rocket launcher at bottlenecks. Also: Pipebombs become super fun when you get a new one every minute or so like a special attack or something.
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Theta Zero posted:I found a really interesting custom server. I mean, standard custom server nonsense aside (30 player count, custom music, and a complete rendition of Spongebob's Bikini Bottom), it was bizarre how much it modified the gameplay. It had had perk point allocation and a skill tree like a Diablo clone, a modified hud to support this, friendly AI, and it gave every model a toon shader outline. Sounds like ToonRun
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Did Tripwire mention a timeline for adding the extra game modes or is it something like "sometime before thanksgiving"?
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The game modes are just quick little mods we came up with while people were on holiday break, but right now we're working on wrapping up the Steam Workshop feature for servers and clients. Once that's ready to go we'll roll these game type mods out with the feature so there's some stuff you can subscribe to on day 1. We wanted to get workshop out yesterday but we need to fix a couple of bugs before we release it. So, uh, really long winded way of saying "Soon".
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Sounds like we're well on our way to those infamous Japanese Killing Floor servers.
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As long as we never return to 30-player servers where the objective is to hide on top of level geometry you weren't supposed to get to.
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You know, it just came to me that probably the best way to balance the Zerk skills is to simply remove the ones no one uses because the alternative is awesome (Smash and extra health) and replace them with ones that give bonuses for the ranged Zerk weapons (such as increasing penetration), possibly giving people a reason to do anything other than Crovel -> Zwei/Pulverizer when sticking to Zerk weapons.
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Yeah Zerk is literally "I use these two weapons ever" right now. When I finally start it, I feel like playing Zerk as ranged just to throw people off and make them rage at me.
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But how do you balance the ranged weapons to make them worth taking? I mean the whole point of zerk is frontlines.
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Alteisen posted:But how do you balance the ranged weapons to make them worth taking? I mean the whole point of zerk is frontlines. Massive damage with a high distance falloff?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/killingfloor/comments/434lc0/tripwire_live_stream_starting_at_300_pm_est/czfl5o5 Detailed notes on the TRIPWIRE stream.
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Alteisen posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/killingfloor/comments/434lc0/tripwire_live_stream_starting_at_300_pm_est/czfl5o5 quote:Specifically mentioned re-balancing of: Hans, Fleshpound AI, Demo class All good to hear.
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