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Volkerball posted:well that and you can form the empire title as a republic regardless of where your capital is at. if you control 81% of britannia and you're a merchant republic, you can form it even if your capital is in barcelona. the reason middlesex being the de jure capital of the empire is important is that it means you can move your capital much later in the game. as a merchant republic, you are not allowed to move your capital unless you are moving to the de jure capital of your primary title (provided it is coastal). middlesex and as you said rome in italia, are the two i can think of that are perfect candidates for merchant republic capitals that you can move to even as an emperor. uppsala would work, but it doesn't really count. since it starts tribal, you can save yourself a shitload of hassle by just starting there and making a republic. Constantinople is coastal, too. I think if you create a custom empire, it will take the de jure capital from your (main) kingdom title, so creating the Irish Empire should enable you to move your capital to Dublin, for example.
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Torrannor posted:Constantinople is coastal, too. Constantinople is kinda garbage imo. Too many city holdings. I like having every 1 temple, 1 city, and everything else baronies in my capital. And yeah, I was actually just going to post about this because that earlier poster got me thinking and I tried it out. I made the duchy of chera nadu my primary title and formed a titular kingdom as a republic in east africa. I still had the option to move to the duchy capital of chera nadu as a king. Owns. I'm kind of scared of how much money I'm gonna make as a silk road republic with a massive connected to capital bonus and huge trade zone.
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Volkerball posted:Constantinople is kinda garbage imo. Too many city holdings. I like having every 1 temple, 1 city, and everything else baronies in my capital. And yeah, I was actually just going to post about this because that earlier poster got me thinking and I tried it out. I made the duchy of chera nadu my primary title and formed a titular kingdom as a republic in east africa. I still had the option to move to the duchy capital of chera nadu as a king. Owns. I'm kind of scared of how much money I'm gonna make as a silk road republic with a massive connected to capital bonus and huge trade zone. make the strangest allies and fund their wars
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Volkerball posted:Constantinople is kinda garbage imo. Too many city holdings. I like having every 1 temple, 1 city, and everything else baronies in my capital. And yeah, I was actually just going to post about this because that earlier poster got me thinking and I tried it out. I made the duchy of chera nadu my primary title and formed a titular kingdom as a republic in east africa. I still had the option to move to the duchy capital of chera nadu as a king. Owns. I'm kind of scared of how much money I'm gonna make as a silk road republic with a massive connected to capital bonus and huge trade zone. It's amazing. But the best place for this is actually Sauvira in Sindh. But yes, the amount of money you can make as a silk road republic is unreal.
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I'm playing my first game in Ireland, and I want to marry off my chancellor, but I have no option to do so. A little research makes me think it's because the game lists him as "abroad", even though I've recalled him. Is there a way to work around this issue, or is the problem perhaps something else entirely?
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Jan 28, 2016 15:07
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Rulers of (non-Merchant) Republics cannot marry.
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Jan 28, 2016 15:14
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God my vassals won't stop. I just got a raider popup for Infa of all places. One of my guys conquered like a dozen counties from the Muslim blob. At this rate I'll have the map painted in 150 years without doing anything at all.
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TorakFade posted:Ok in preparation of the new DLC I started an Old Gods game, as the Duke of Spoleto because I did want to be powerful but not a king just yet. Update: I forgot to set the Ironman flag on that game, and I really wanted to get achievements; plus the ridiculousness of being literally gifted Italy 2 years in was kind of too much, so I restarted the game. Well this time I tried to support the Elective faction but the King bullied everyone out of it immediately. Oh well I guess getting lucky twice in a row would be insane. So I went and married a nice girl who unsurprisingly turned out to be a cheating whore, but at least she gave me a daughter. I chose the Business focus and started building an economic base by upgrading the castle towns in my demesne. Not long after, I get a normal illness and die two weeks later, aged 23. My 2 y.o. daughter is hated by everyone including her 17-intrigue mother, I don't think she will last long, and I don't fancy a 14 year regency at the start of the game anyways. I swear to God, whenever I activate ironman Bad Things happen... it's basically the polar opposite of the previous run. I'm not sure I want to restart yet again as Duke of Spoleto in 867, so what's some good easy alternative start to try for some easy achievements? I have basically none because I never played ironman for the aforementioned reasons  I have all content DLC but I'm not keen on going with hordes or tribals, I want to ease back into the game as the usual boring feudal christian ruler.
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I literally did nothing but get married, bang my sweet wife to get a heir, assign my councilors and choose the Intrigue focus.
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In a way it's sorta liberating not giving a poo poo about landing your dynasty because it causes problems as a Muslim. Seeing as I've sometimes caught myself delaying conquests until the next batch of dynasty members are adults, dividing them into tiered ranks based on skills (Oh, detached priest? Count. Midas Touched quick? King.) and then obsessively landing them into neat countries, being free of that sorta thing from an optimal gameplay point of view is good. Still not going completely optimal, but I guess obsessively going for higher "dynastic score" isn't that important. Though as I'll soon be going merchant republic, I suppose I should have mebe done it for higher dynastic prestige to make elections easier.
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Deceitful Penguin posted:In a way it's sorta liberating not giving a poo poo about landing your dynasty because it causes problems as a Muslim. Seeing as I've sometimes caught myself delaying conquests until the next batch of dynasty members are adults, dividing them into tiered ranks based on skills (Oh, detached priest? Count. Midas Touched quick? King.) and then obsessively landing them into neat countries, being free of that sorta thing from an optimal gameplay point of view is good. I will never get the full gametime achievements
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Jan 29, 2016 07:14
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Maybe it isn't Jesus that is giving the advice  .
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It could be Kai or Kami.
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LemonAIDS posted:
That always happens. At least happened to every child of the devil I had
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Have a video DD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws6kunXT1K8
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lurksion posted:Oh god. This is exactly why I stop playing a save, when my compulsion to do this no longer outweighs the tedium of doing so. GSD posted:Maybe it isn't Jesus that is giving the advice Jesus playing the role of Satan, sorta.
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Deceitful Penguin posted:I have been trying to get my family to found kingdoms as the drat nomads, as I can't give them the titles, and it is hell. I want to release the Abyssinian Empire because I want someone else to participate in Zorastrian Great Holy wars but it's not exactly going great. If you give then all the required duchies and enough money they will sometimes create the titles thenselves
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Elias_Maluco posted:That always happens. Children of the devil automatically get the 'hearing voices' status effect, I think, and that's what allows the "Jesus military advice" thing to trigger. Add to that the fact, that devil children have ultra-survivability, and yea...makes sense.
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Elias_Maluco posted:If you give then all the required duchies and enough money they will sometimes create the titles thenselves The multi duke of what used to be the kingdom of Greece, the king of Abyssinia and Egypt that refuses to make Nubia (So I can't vassal transfer the sayyid genius branch of the family to him in Makuria), as well as my son in charge of the Jain Indian Kingdom, sighhhhh. Also, man does the Zoroastrian High Priest hate the Byzantine Empire. Why can't you go into India fucker, so I could try and dismantle them more??? Reminder: Hordes are still hilariously overpowered so use it while you can. I could have made all of India into a Zoroastrian playground if I'd have had the presence of mind to do it. Now I have to make sure the Khazars don't get Anatolia and then finish the invasion of Africa first... Groogy, does my council have any dummy positions? Like, can I make one of them master of mint or swans and keep my vassals satisfied this way or will I have way more wannabe members than can be put in reasonably? Is there an honourary title "council member" that you can wave around? Deceitful Penguin fucked around with this message at 12:41 on Jan 29, 2016 |
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Sometimes being the operative word here. Yeah, is pretty annoying. You can give those titles to nomad vassals, though. In my game that's what I ended up doing to stay under the vassal limit (and because I hate having a fuckton of vassal dukes) Deceitful Penguin posted:Reminder: Hordes are still hilariously overpowered so use it while you can. I could have made all of India into a Zoroastrian playground if I'd have had the presence of mind to do it. Now I have to make sure the Khazars don't get Anatolia and then finish the invasion of Africa first... As a nomad it was the first time Ive bothered invading India, and then conquered it all just because it was so easy
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LemonAIDS posted:
Jesus likes a level playing field.
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I've got an ironman game going where I'm the Count of Bourbon, and the Spy On option has lucked me into a situation where I now have my liege, the Duchess of Aquitaine, imprisoned. Coincidentally, (not actually coincidentally at all I've been planning this for a while) my wife has a claim on the duchy. So my question is, does having the Duchess imprisoned change how she'd react to me demanding my wife's installation? Or alternatively, since I already have her imprisoned, if I'd declare war for the title would I instantly be at 100% warscore, because IIRC having the war leader imprisoned does that. I absolutely do not have the military means to take her in an honest fight, so I just want to know what my best action is here.
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DStecks posted:I've got an ironman game going where I'm the Count of Bourbon, and the Spy On option has lucked me into a situation where I now have my liege, the Duchess of Aquitaine, imprisoned. Coincidentally, (not actually coincidentally at all I've been planning this for a while) my wife has a claim on the duchy. So my question is, does having the Duchess imprisoned change how she'd react to me demanding my wife's installation? Or alternatively, since I already have her imprisoned, if I'd declare war for the title would I instantly be at 100% warscore, because IIRC having the war leader imprisoned does that. I absolutely do not have the military means to take her in an honest fight, so I just want to know what my best action is here. You can press a Faction demand while you have imprisoned your liege, and you will indeed immediately get 100% war score.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:You can press a Faction demand while you have imprisoned your liege, and you will indeed immediately get 100% war score. gently caress yeah.
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Speaking about it, I dont think I ever understood this rule that forbids us from giving kingdom titles to vassals with a different type of government. It seems completely arbitrary. For nomads, maybe, it does makes sense and adds to the challenge, as late game Ive found no way of keeping under the vassal limit except by distributing kingdoms among my vassal khans, which can make then very dangerous. But for feudals it does not makes the game any harder (most player wont ever give away kingdom titles anyway), it just prevent us from doing fun stuff like making Italy a theocracy or Frisia a merchant republic.
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Elias_Maluco posted:Speaking about it, I dont think I ever understood this rule that forbids us from giving kingdom titles to vassals with a different type of government. It seems completely arbitrary. That's not true. One popular tactic was to make every count level vassal and higher a theocracy, because theocracies cannot inherit other titles or claims, don't join normal factions, don't expand and are basically easy mode in terms of realm management. It was similar with non-merchant republics, though they at least have a -30 wrong government penalty. That's the reason why you can't give more than a certain share of your lands to priests or mayors, and the inability to grant them kingdom is probably to prevent you from gaming the system. It's probably also a thing of historical realism, as the nobility certainly wasn't in the habit of giving out titles to commoners, and even if commoners did manage to get a title, they would become nobles themselves and not republics.
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Torrannor posted:That's not true. One popular tactic was to make every count level vassal and higher a theocracy, because theocracies cannot inherit other titles or claims, don't join normal factions, don't expand and are basically easy mode in terms of realm management. It was similar with non-merchant republics, though they at least have a -30 wrong government penalty. That's the reason why you can't give more than a certain share of your lands to priests or mayors, and the inability to grant them kingdom is probably to prevent you from gaming the system. I dont know, that % limit is more than enough to prevent those exploits, IMHO And vassal republic kingdoms are far more dangerous than regular republics, in my experience. They will join factions much more often than duchy level ones and tend to get much stronger. Same goes for theocracies too, I dont think Ive ever saw a duchy-level one join a faction, but the few kingdom level ones Ive created (using the console) would often do.
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I've (almost) done it. My family owns India. I've got room for two more posts that still get a connected to capital bonus, but after that, I'm just gonna focus on building vertical instead of horizontal for a bit. At 38 posts, this is already pouring out more money than I think any other trade route I've ever had, with no upgrades to any of my posts. And I haven't even sent the raiding party to block the silk road in Mongolia so all trade comes through me yet. I'll post an update once I've got it developed.
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Volkerball posted:I've (almost) done it. As an aside, when you call tribal vassals over counts into wars, do they also call their vassals? Same with kings? I was just wondering if the combined might of a muslim tribal east europe could beat the nomads.
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Gideon? Were they the uhh, Jewish ones? Did you use the console to turn Merchant Republic or what? Yeah, I made the duchy of Axum a republic with the console and went from there. Just selected a randomized last name in the character creator.
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How can I edit a marriage in a savefile to be matrilineal? My eldest daughter and heir has remarried after her husband died and decided on a regular marriage (nevermind that female AI rulers almost never accept a regular marriage...). I'm trying to edit the save file so that her marriage is matrilineal by adding "succession=yes" under her husband's id= number in her relationship section (rel_daughterID=). Basically following the instructions here: http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Save-game_editing#Marriage However, every time I reload the save after editing, the marriage is still regular, regardless of whether I put the spouse_id = { succession=yes } section in her part or her husband's part, or both.
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The instructions in the wiki are correct (I do that to edit marriages all the time) so you are messing up somehow. From your description my guess is that you're getting the structure of the new section wrong. Basically, the save game has a massive brace-block section called "relations" (or maybe it's "relation"?) that stores various relations and diplo modifiers for all characters. Anywhere in that section, you need to find or create a section called "diplo_<husbandID>". Inside that section, you need another section called <wifeID>, and inside that you put the "succession=yes". It should look like this: code:
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Groogy[/b], does my council have any dummy positions? Like, can I make one of them master of mint or swans and keep my vassals satisfied this way or will I have way more wannabe members than can be put in reasonably?
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DStecks posted:I've got an ironman game going where I'm the Count of Bourbon, and the Spy On option has lucked me into a situation where I now have my liege, the Duchess of Aquitaine, imprisoned. Coincidentally, (not actually coincidentally at all I've been planning this for a while) my wife has a claim on the duchy. So my question is, does having the Duchess imprisoned change how she'd react to me demanding my wife's installation? Or alternatively, since I already have her imprisoned, if I'd declare war for the title would I instantly be at 100% warscore, because IIRC having the war leader imprisoned does that. I absolutely do not have the military means to take her in an honest fight, so I just want to know what my best action is here.
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You can't declare war directly while someone is in your jail, but if you trigger an event where one of the decisions leads to war (like pressing a faction claim), then you can fight them while they're still imprisoned for the automatic 100% war score.
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Dallan Invictus posted:The instructions in the wiki are correct (I do that to edit marriages all the time) so you are messing up somehow. From your description my guess is that you're getting the structure of the new section wrong. Ah, I left out the "diplo_" part. I fixed that and now it's working, thanks!
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Just two more question about this: Yes it all works. The moddability as I said is huge and I said I wanted to do it even more moddable. Unfortunately the additional things I want to do have to wait until 2.5.2 where I add a lot of new stuff.
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