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I'm waiting for the day when Marche becomes playable in Dissidia.
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Jan 30, 2016 05:47
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Fister Roboto posted:Agreed, it's too bad they all died. i blame luso
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Jan 30, 2016 06:14
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gently caress the Haerii Oldroad, Jesus Christ. It's past the area with the Ochus, which is across the Steppe from the nearest teleporter and requires a Chocobo - so if you see a guarded chest either ignore it or start over - then you go through a passageway about five times as long as it needs to be only to find a paling with a target all the way over in the Mahabara. Why am I bothering with the postgame? 
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Jan 30, 2016 07:43
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giffan posted:The FF9 port backgrounds still look drat rough next to the new character models, but they're designed so well that any annoyances I have left just wash away. It really is amazing how well designed IX is. Compared to VII, it's ludicrous how more detailed the character models are, especially considering IX only came three years later.
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Jan 30, 2016 07:48
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Txn posted:I'm waiting for the day when Marche becomes playable in Dissidia. He'll break the fourth wall constantly and yell at the player for playing video games because it's escapism.
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Jan 30, 2016 13:03
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TL posted:It really is amazing how well designed IX is. Compared to VII, it's ludicrous how more detailed the character models are, especially considering IX only came three years later. I think it's because they were more familiar with the PS1 capabilities. It's a nice progression though, from VII having different models for field and battle, to the others using the same high quality models. The seeds of it are in VII, with Cloud having the regular low-quality battle model, and a more detailed one for the final fight with Sephiroth.      IX even experimented with giving Zidane's model multiple expressions - although I don't remember seeing any outside of this cutscene.  
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Jan 30, 2016 14:11
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14 hours and twenty minutes until the next FF15 stream with the new combat and magic stuff
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Jan 30, 2016 14:39
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ImpAtom posted:He isn't a girl people are just joking because the design looks vaguely girlish. I was adding onto that joke. There's nothing vague about it, that's a female model.
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Jan 30, 2016 16:28
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SonicRulez posted:I was adding onto that joke. There's nothing vague about it, that's a female model. problematic
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Jan 30, 2016 16:42
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Ramza's a pretty boy from a long line of games with pretty boys in them.
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Jan 30, 2016 16:58
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People often make weird accusations about Final Fantasy characters looking like women, which are generally not true, but seriously, that's a woman. There's is absolutely nothing about that model that looks even remotely like it was intended to be a dude. Even the shape of his body looks more like "woman incompetently disguised as a man" than a guy. It's weird because Ramza's original sprite, though fairly pretty, was pretty obviously male. EDIT: Well, I tell a lie, it looks like Ramza's body has always had the weird hourglass shape even in the original art, which isn't exactly a dude thing.
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Jan 30, 2016 17:13
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Pesky Splinter posted:I think it's because they were more familiar with the PS1 capabilities. It's a nice progression though, from VII having different models for field and battle, to the others using the same high quality models. The seeds of it are in VII, with Cloud having the regular low-quality battle model, and a more detailed one for the final fight with Sephiroth. A similar progression happened with the SNES games too. VI's sprites, backgrounds, and enemies are insanely detailed compared to V and IV
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Jan 30, 2016 17:13
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Guy grows a nose and suddenly everyone thinks he's too feminine. Though to be fair it is a cute nose.
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Jan 30, 2016 17:19
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Don't worry everyone, I fixed it
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Jan 30, 2016 17:28
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Help Im Alive posted:Don't worry everyone, I fixed it Yeah, looks a lot manlier now.
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Jan 30, 2016 17:37
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Help Im Alive posted:Don't worry everyone, I fixed it Finally we get to play as Lord Voldemort. [e]: Lantern-jaw: 
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Jan 30, 2016 17:38
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Help Im Alive posted:Don't worry everyone, I fixed it Y'know, I was gonna complain about being able to see where the nose clearly was but looking that close at the picture made me realise that your photoshop legitimately looks less feminine. 
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Jan 30, 2016 17:39
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Ramza never really had any distinctly masculine features to begin with. It's just that now that he's in 3D with a lot more detail on his face the fact that he looks so feminine stands out more. And that's fine. Men that look extremely feminine aren't out of the ordinary. Saying stuff like "no, that's definitely a woman" is kind of weird and gross.
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Jan 30, 2016 17:48
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Honestly though the old concept art for Ramza was pretty androgynous too. EDIT: ^^Yeah, that.
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Jan 30, 2016 17:50
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Seriously though, I hope the fuckable Ramza is a woman, because otherwise hoo boy howdy oh no [tugs at collar and goes "yeesh"]
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Jan 30, 2016 17:53
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JordanKai posted:Ramza never really had any distinctly masculine features to begin with. It's just that now that he's in 3D with a lot more detail on his face the fact that he looks so feminine stands out more. This, plus that's his chapter 1 costume. Isn't he like 14-15 in the flashback? That's young enough to not even have more adult facial features yet. this is disregarding alt history 30-year-old academy dropout ramzas who spend a decade and a half grinding to become a mime
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Jan 30, 2016 18:07
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Augus posted:Honestly though the old concept art for Ramza was pretty androgynous too. He's a noble. Grew up with no struggle, just entered the Academy. He's likely never gotten his hands dirty, much less broken a bone. And the long hair implies vanity as well, so he's probably taking care of his skin too. Obviously I would have rather had Agrias or TG Cid in my fighting game, but I really like Ramza's character and progression. Even after he's been through dozens of bloody battles, the kid walks into a bar and orders a glass of milk.
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Jan 30, 2016 18:11
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So is Delita gonna be the enemy character from Tactics or are there better options?
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Jan 30, 2016 18:20
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I've decided to maybe give The ZIJS version of FF12 another go. Anyone have a recommended Character/Class set up?
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Jan 30, 2016 18:22
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mandatory lesbian posted:So is Delita gonna be the enemy character from Tactics or are there better options? I heard this Dissidia doesn't have playable Chaos characters. I hope they change that!
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Jan 30, 2016 18:23
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mandatory lesbian posted:So is Delita gonna be the enemy character from Tactics or are there better options? Wiegraf would be a satisying target to beat up as that one boss everyone got stuck on, and is able to represent both the political intrigue (captain of the Death Corps) and demon-hunting (host for Velius/Belias) parts of the game's plot.
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Jan 30, 2016 18:24
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:I heard this Dissidia doesn't have playable Chaos characters. That's dumb as heck
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Jan 30, 2016 18:33
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:I've decided to maybe give The ZIJS version of FF12 another go. Anyone have a recommended Character/Class set up? All I remember from my playthrough is that time mages suck rear end and fran looks great with axes.
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Jan 30, 2016 18:36
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They've already said after Ramza is done they are getting into adding the Chaos characters, breathe.
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Jan 30, 2016 18:36
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mandatory lesbian posted:So is Delita gonna be the enemy character from Tactics or are there better options? Draw your sword. I don't get the "he looks like a girl!!!" complaint. I don't necessarily think he does anyway but it doesn't make much difference to me. My qualms are that the artstyle doesn't represent the character especially well. Rise of Mana's version of him, Orlandeau and Agrias are much better even if they would clash stylistically.
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Jan 30, 2016 18:38
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:I heard this Dissidia doesn't have playable Chaos characters. mandatory lesbian posted:That's dumb as heck It's pretty common for arcade fighters to launch with a small number of playable characters. Slowly adding new characters to the roster is how they get people to keep playing these games, I guess! I'm sure that by the time the game comes out on console(s??) all the old Chaos baddies will have already been added back in.
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Jan 30, 2016 18:39
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If they have a chaos char from Tactics I would say Delita is shoo in, yes. Also possibly Agrias, there's supposed to be around some 50 characters when the game is done in Arcades and getting ready for its console release, so there's plenty of spots for cool new guys outside of the mainline series to show up.
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Jan 30, 2016 18:40
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I don't care, just as long as we get the game. I mean I don't doubt we will but goddamn I'm excited for it, it looks fun as hell. E: Delita wasn't really a villain though, the entire reason his character is beloved is his moral ambiguity and while he was using everybody he presented as an ally to Ramza.
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Jan 30, 2016 18:40
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Baal posted:They've already said after Ramza is done they are getting into adding the Chaos characters, breathe. cool Josuke Higashikata posted:Draw your sword. i mean tbf to people he does look pretty traditionally feminine but taking that and saying he is a girl instead of being able to handle the concept of a girly looking guy is dumb
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Jan 30, 2016 18:41
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Linnaeus posted:All I remember from my playthrough is that time mages suck rear end and fran looks great with axes. Same and also Knight took forever to no just be nothing, so since my last run went so bad I figued I'd ask for a better set up.
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Jan 30, 2016 18:43
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mandatory lesbian posted:i mean tbf to people he does look pretty traditionally feminine but taking that and saying he is a girl instead of being able to handle the concept of a girly looking guy is dumb Also, this is Final Fantasy, where half of the males in the series already look incredibly feminine...
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Jan 30, 2016 18:46
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i mean yeah we could get Wiegraf or Delita as Ramza's chaos counterpart, both of those would be good options imo. although wouldn't it be more awesome to play as Cuchulainn and vomit everywhere instead? or have a component to Wiegraf where he transforms into Belias.
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Jan 30, 2016 18:48
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Arrrthritis posted:or have a component to Wiegraf where he transforms into Belias. Well a toned-down version of that ala Jecht and Braska's Final Aeon would be the most obvious choice as an EX Mode. ...that is still a thing, right?
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Jan 30, 2016 18:50
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Wiegraf's cool and everything but really, Delita is the best counterpart for Ramza and it's not really much of a competition even though Delita's not truly an antagonist. That's never really been an hardset rule though I guess, what with Gabranth and Jecht getting in.
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AlphaKretin posted:Well a toned-down version of that ala Jecht and Braska's Final Aeon would be the most obvious choice as an EX Mode. Not for the arcade port, it's unknown as far as the console version goes
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