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divabot posted:Instead, I know of nobody bothering with Aurini of late. However! Our esteemed colleague HBomberGuy has a new video out on the alt-right reaction to Star Wars! I want to watch this, but I also don't want my Youtube front page to be wall-to-wall Sargon of Akkad and other Twitter jagoffs, so I'm at an impasse.
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Antivehicular posted:I want to watch this, but I also don't want my Youtube front page to be wall-to-wall Sargon of Akkad and other Twitter jagoffs, so I'm at an impasse. Open it in a chrome incognito window?
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You can also delete videos in your watch history. Davis Aurini is legitimately my favourite Youtuber, with Rockin Mr.E at number 2. Number 3 is EA Koetting but he doesn't have much to do with the discussion.
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quote:Additional voicework by Paper 'is that slowbeef?' Lion. I tried to get the actual Slowbeef to record lines this time but he has like, a life, or something? I don't think that's the actual reason beef refused...
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In tangential news, Eliezer Yudkowsky has a new work of fiction out! It's way less didactic than HPMOR. This may not be a good thing.
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divabot posted:In tangential news, Eliezer Yudkowsky has a new work of fiction out! It's way less didactic than HPMOR. This may not be a good thing. Has Yudkowsky ever consumed any media aimed at a target audience beyond middle school? I'm serious here.
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divabot posted:In tangential news, Eliezer Yudkowsky has a new work of fiction out! It's way less didactic than HPMOR. This may not be a good thing. Wasn't he supposed to get back to his incredibly important work protecting the future of humanity after he wrapped up the fanfic? I mean, I don't blame the guy for cultivating a secondary racket on top of his main one, but still.
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Antivehicular posted:Has Yudkowsky ever consumed any media aimed at a target audience beyond middle school? I'm serious here. "In one sense, it's clear that we do not want to live the sort of lives that are depicted in most stories that human authors have written so far. Think of the truly great stories, the ones that have become legendary for being the very best of the best of their genre: The Iliiad (sic), Romeo and Juliet, The Godfather, Watchmen, Planescape: Torment, the second season of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, or that ending in Tsukihime. Is there a single story on the list that isn't tragic?"
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divabot posted:In tangential news, Eliezer Yudkowsky has a new work of fiction out! It's way less didactic than HPMOR. This may not be a good thing. quote:This is my attempt at translating a light novel from Japan, only the original source material doesn’t exist. quote:1. Prologue: A virgin maiden is already corrupted?!
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 remember your anime: red tidday UP, white tidday DOWN remember, this is a young girl who posted:Though I am a little worried. I’ve never gone more than a day or two without giving myself release. Even when I tried to deny myself for perverted reasons, my willpower failed. I hope that I can clear up this Wicked Emperor matter in a month, and not go insane with repressed desires before then. Scott Alexander review: no no you guys it's not a loving car crash it's KNOWING SELF-PARODY
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Yeah, Eliezer obviously has a master plan which involves producing smut like this to embarrass himself and distract people away from his "more serious thinking".
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:"In one sense, it's clear that we do not want to live the sort of lives that are depicted in most stories that human authors have written so far. Think of the truly great stories, the ones that have become legendary for being the very best of the best of their genre: The Iliiad (sic), Romeo and Juliet, The Godfather, Watchmen, Planescape: Torment, the second season of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, or that ending in Tsukihime. Is there a single story on the list that isn't tragic?" watchmen is only considered the best superhero comic by people who don't actually like superhero comics, smh yud
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divabot posted:Scott Alexander review: no no you guys it's not a loving car crash it's KNOWING SELF-PARODY quote:Laughs in the face of good literary technique in a way that works fine in its silly self-aware context but which will provide new fodder for his critics, as if they needed it. Carefully optimized to be maximally embarrassing to him when somebody uses the fact that he wrote it to dismiss his more serious thinking. It's a proper example of Bayesian reasoning in art criticism, too. Overly strong prior on Yud being good + extremely strong evidence of Yud having produced something extremely terrible = a good posterior on Yud having created an intentional parody, rather than just being bad. BravestOfTheLamps posted:"In one sense, it's clear that we do not want to live the sort of lives that are depicted in most stories that human authors have written so far. Think of the truly great stories, the ones that have become legendary for being the very best of the best of their genre: The Iliiad (sic), Romeo and Juliet, The Godfather, Watchmen, Planescape: Torment, the second season of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, or that ending in Tsukihime. Is there a single story on the list that isn't tragic?" Yud is perfect. (In a way, Yud is a strange take on Joss Whedon.)
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Literally The Worst posted:watchmen is only considered the best superhero comic by people who don't actually like superhero comics, smh yud
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Cingulate posted:That's pretty amazing. To quote the best part: I think it's pretty clearly an intentional parody. Which doesn't make it good; the problem is that the kind of story it's parodying is already too terrible to easily parody.
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Parody generally means "taking the established tropes of a genre and putting them over the top in a campy way or portraying them in a context which reveals their ridiculousness", but on the internet it means "the same thing but ironically".
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DStecks posted:Parody generally means "taking the established tropes of a genre and putting them over the top in a campy way or portraying them in a context which reveals their ridiculousness", but on the internet it means "the same thing but ironically". "The same thing but I get to call backsies on it if people laugh at me"
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Okay I obviously don't know what Japanese "light novels" are. 1. what is Yud "parodying" here, 2. why? Like, who is it for and what are they supposed to derive from it?
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Cingulate posted:Okay I obviously don't know what Japanese "light novels" are. 1. what is Yud "parodying" here, 2. why? Like, who is it for and what are they supposed to derive from it? Light novels are Japanese novels with anime illustrations. They tend to be very cliche-heavy, have a stilted prose style made even worse in translation, and sometimes cater to people with weird sexual fetishes. Many anime these days are adapted from LNs. Good LNs do exist, but the crap-to-gold ratio seems to be higher than in most other mediums.
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So basically light novels are for people who are so regressed that they cannot read a book without pictures telling them how to interpret it?
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Silver2195 posted:Light novels are Japanese novels with anime illustrations. They tend to be very cliche-heavy, have a stilted prose style made even worse in translation, and sometimes cater to people with weird sexual fetishes. Many anime these days are adapted from LNs.
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Woolie Wool posted:So basically light novels are for people who are so regressed that they cannot read a book without pictures telling them how to interpret it? They are a step below genre fiction in literacy-space, but a step above genre comics.
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Cingulate posted:Okay and what is Yud trying to achieve? Is he writing for the community of people-who-know-light-novels-well-enough-to-understand-the-joke-and-also-somehow-are-in-need-of-light-novel-parodies? I've heard of at least one light novel which uses its tissue-thin plot to teach the reader math tricks and trivia, so that may have given him ideas. I think he has a theory that there is an unmet American market for semi-serious semi-literature. ...or that may just be projection. I will instead say that I have a theory that such a market exists, currently met by free fan fiction, god awful licensed novels, and a growing crowd of kindle singles.
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Woolie Wool posted:So basically light novels are for people who are so regressed that they cannot read a book without pictures telling them how to interpret it? Sort of? They are pretty explicitly aimed at middle school/high school age kids. Think of they like a mix of YA fiction and comic books. They aren't all as japan as big yud is presenting here. The novel *Edge of Tomorrow* is based off of is perfectly respectable pulp action.
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divabot posted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvBnP9t0gTg He nailed the poorly translated subtitle though.
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No, you guys, light novels aren't trashy semi-lit written for 13-year-olds, they're "a Japanese custom which aims at easy reading!" If it's a custom, it's obviously important. Also, it's not that they're cliche and written very quickly to cash in on trends, it's that "Japan has easier ideas about copyright, so their literary system more often contains many works on the same theme." Yudkowsky used the word theme! It's cultural goddammit, from glorious Nippon, which means it isn't a waste of time for someone who has a self-determined amazing genius intellect and is the only one who can save the world. Also, female masturbation and sexuality are gross and hilarious, sufficiently to be the entire basis of the parody, obviously.
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Cingulate posted:Not a real gamer Nah comics are an actual thing I spend most of my time on in some fashion, and the people who think Watchmen is the best superhero comic are the people who don't read comic books they read Graphic Novels It's good, but it's not the best
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Patrick Spens posted:Sort of? They are pretty explicitly aimed at middle school/high school age kids. Think of they like a mix of YA fiction and comic books. They aren't all as japan as big yud is presenting here. The novel *Edge of Tomorrow* is based off of is perfectly respectable pulp action. That novel is also called All You Need is Kill which is the BEST title
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Antivehicular posted:No, you guys, light novels aren't trashy semi-lit written for 13-year-olds, they're "a Japanese custom which aims at easy reading!" If it's a custom, it's obviously important. Serious question: is he married?
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Antivehicular posted:No, you guys, light novels aren't trashy semi-lit written for 13-year-olds, they're "a Japanese custom which aims at easy reading!" If it's a custom, it's obviously important. To the extent that he's aware of the topic, he probably files it in the same folder as Cultural Marxism. Literally The Worst posted:Nah comics are an actual thing I spend most of my time on in some fashion, and the people who think Watchmen is the best superhero comic are the people who don't read comic books they read Graphic Novels Literally The Worst posted:That novel is also called All You Need is Kill which is the BEST title
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Jack Gladney posted:Serious question: is he married? He's in a polyamorous relationship with several women from his cult.
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Literally The Worst posted:Nah comics are an actual thing I spend most of my time on in some fashion, and the people who think Watchmen is the best superhero comic are the people who don't read comic books they read Graphic Novels I think you are a cool guy who posts good, but this sounds like a WWE fan talking poo poo about people who follow the Olympics.
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GottaPayDaTrollToll posted:He's in a polyamorous relationship with several women from his cult. A harem of mental/emotional children?
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Enough LN/comics chat, let's post some Jim!quote:Roosh is a great and valuable ideologue of the alt-right
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Doc Hawkins posted:I think you are a cool guy who posts good, but this sounds like a WWE fan talking poo poo about people who follow the Olympics. I'm saying that there is no actual fundamental difference between the two things except if you want to feel like you're better than those fuckin plebes. I read all kinds of poo poo, comics are My Thing in a lot of ways and have been for well over half my life, to the point where I almost pursued a lit degree so that I could maybe find a way to teach about them, and people who say "I don't read comic books I only like Alan Moore et al" are assholes who have never engaged with the medium in a meaningful way It's the same as the (thankfully increasingly rare) assholes who say "I don't watch movies I watch FILMS" like using the grown up word means you're better than other people Cingulate posted:I get the point, but I doubt Yud is big on cultural relativism. Man you keep saying that like its a thing I'm saying but it's still not and also I don't know who this random guy with a website straight out of 2002 is or why I should care about his opinion Also note I never said it was bad, just that people who think it's the end all be all of superhero comics are kinda fuckin wrong and also it kinda ruined superhero comics for thirty years and counting, that and Dark Knight Returns which is as important in terms of history and impact and making a statement on the nature of comic books but it's about Batman so it's poo poo (also it's actually poo poo and I hate it)
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Jack Gladney posted:A harem of mental/emotional children? You couldn't be more wrong. It's not a "harem," they sleep with other people too.
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Jack Gladney posted:A harem of mental/emotional children? I mean really, this comes about for most cult leaders eventually.
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Literally The Worst posted:Man you keep saying that like its a thing I'm saying but it's still not and also I don't know who this random guy with a website straight out of 2002 is or why I should care about his opinion Silver2195 posted:Enough LN/comics chat, let's post some Jim! Also "The red pill is the alt right’s killer app"
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Cingulate posted:I agree. Fuckin' casuals. Wow it's crazy that you say that because I sure as hell didn't Double ironic because I'm literally grumping about people having a false sense of superiority at the same time you claim that I'm looking down my nose at people for not devoting their lives to this hobby Fun fact I recommend people run far away from this hobby because either you're going to be disgusted and run away anyway or fall in love and have your heart broken every week, nobody should read comics Also I still don't know what you were trying to prove with that link. Some guy I've never heard of disagrees with me? Okay cool that's never happened before
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