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Avengers rarely got into the social impact of a super team, but they especially missed out on the drama of having two mutants on the team.
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Cocks Cable posted:Aren't most mutants suppose to be Morlock-league level hideous with lame or gross powers? The Avengers as the public know them are like exact opposite of that. They're beautiful unblemished white people decorated in the accouterments of patriotism or sexy silicon valley stylish tech. There was supposed to be a huge push for "ugly" or "gross" mutants back in the 90's several times. The first one gave us Chamber, Skin and Husk who even though she was a hot blonde her power was gross. Later we got Random and and Maggot and even later Beak and the new Angel.
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Jan 29, 2016 07:21
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Don''t forget Marrow and Maggot!
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Jan 29, 2016 07:26
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Die Laughing posted:Don''t forget Marrow and Maggot! Ummm I said Maggot. I was only naming off X-Men really but yeah Gene Nation were all gross.
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Jan 29, 2016 07:29
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Rhyno posted:Ummm I said Maggot. Or weird. What the gently caress was Integer, I ask you.
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Jan 29, 2016 07:39
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Die Laughing posted:Avengers rarely got into the social impact of a super team, but they especially missed out on the drama of having two mutants on the team. Kurt Busiek had this storyline where the Avengers had two groups of protestors camped outside their front gate - one of them was protesting that the reformed team had managed to assemble an all-white line-up; the other was protesting the inclusion of mutants (Scarlet Witch, Justice and Firestar). Obviously, they started protesting each other. Die Laughing posted:Don''t forget Marrow and Maggot! Marrow became pretty when Alan Davis started drawing her.
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Jan 29, 2016 10:53
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GOD IS BED posted:CYCLOPS WAS RIGHT And the reward for that is now he gets to get Professor X'ed until the end of time, and will never be a usable character ever again.
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Jan 29, 2016 10:57
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Wheat Loaf posted:Marrow became pretty when Alan Davis started drawing her. I swear, someone could create a superhero called The Human Turd, and if she was female, she'd eventually be drawn super hot.
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Jan 29, 2016 13:12
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They should bring back Maggott, the hero we deserve.
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Jan 29, 2016 16:25
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I think he was in X-Men 92, along with other reject characters. Speak of which, when is that ongoing starting up? It might be an X-Title worth getting.
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Jan 29, 2016 18:26
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TFAW says that it's due out on March 30th: http://www.tfaw.com/Comics/Profile/X-Men-92-1___496124
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Jan 30, 2016 00:25
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So I really didn't like Bendis on X-Men but I guess I had a cursed monkey's paw in my pocket when I wished for new writers because I'm beginning to think that Extraordinary, Uncanny, All-New X-Men are actually worse than before SW (okay I'm on the fence with All-New but still)! Wolverine(s) seem to be the only mutants I like at the moment.
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Jan 30, 2016 03:47
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People can call Wolverine a bad character all they want, his(their?) comics are often well above the average x-title.
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Jan 30, 2016 04:01
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Wolverine is a great character when the writer isn't having everyone giving him sloppy blowjobs about how he's the greatest X-Men of all.
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Jan 30, 2016 04:12
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A cool thing about Wolverine is that even things that always suck, like one shot releases, or annuals,are generally better than other properties of that ilk. I think it's that everyone probably has a Wolverine story in their head.
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Jan 30, 2016 04:17
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Wheat Loaf posted:Marrow became pretty when Alan Davis started drawing her. It seemed to me they made Marrow hot because she quit the Morloks and joined the x-men. She wasn't a villain anymore, so naturally the x-men get randomly teleported to an alien world and she gets put into an alien healing pod that makes her pretty. They had some similar plot arcs with Callisto, where she becomes beautiful and quits being evil, but then goes right back to being an evil sewer-dwelling rear end in a top hat when a plot twist takes her hotness away again.
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Jan 30, 2016 12:57
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Lurdiak posted:People can call Wolverine a bad character all they want, his(their?) comics are often well above the average x-title. Her
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Jan 30, 2016 18:18
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Theres 2 of them.
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Jan 30, 2016 22:19
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Only one is Wolverine.
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Jan 30, 2016 22:26
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Aphrodite posted:Only one is Wolverine. And that is Laura Kinney. I've been meaning to ask this, but what was the Legacy Virus. Outside of killing Illyana, I have zero idea what it was. Also, current Magik is from an alt universe or something?
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Jan 30, 2016 23:45
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I think current Magik is just her resurrected by Hel but technically without a soul.
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Jan 30, 2016 23:47
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twistedmentat posted:I've been meaning to ask this, but what was the Legacy Virus. Literally mutant AIDs. The writers actually said it wouldn't be cured until AIDs was, but...that took longer than they thought.
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Jan 30, 2016 23:47
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twistedmentat posted:And that is Laura Kinney. David Haller's tiniest personality. But you know how in the year 3863, the (sit-on-your-)fascist Swinger Tyrants, in an effort to kill the last remaining monogs, will release a plague whose only treatment is promiscuous sex? And how a team of science-rebels at the Matrimonyiat manage to re-engineer the plague to actually infect others via bodily fluids contact? And how they then launch their new anti-sex disease through a time-hole, to prevent the Swingers from ever rising to power? You know, the history of how HIV came to exist. The Legacy virus is basically that, but in a mutants-as-gay-folks metaphor and much more awkward. It caused mutant powers to run out of control until they burnt out the infected mutant. It was mutant-only, until some mutant's mutant power accidentally mutated it to infect non-mutants. It transmitted easily, and was airborne. So HIV, but actually Gay Only and you could catch it by breathing gay air but only if you were yourself gay, including closeted—that is, until some lesbian's homosexual quirks caused it to also infect the straights!!!!! Also it was made by Stryfe, a clone of Rightclops's and JEEEEAAAAAN's son who grew up in the future when all spelling conventions have been abandoned. It was a bad thing and probably best forgotten, except to mock everyone involved.
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Jan 31, 2016 01:20
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twistedmentat posted:And that is Laura Kinney. The Legacy Virus was created by Stryfe and released at the end of X-Cutioner's Song when he and Cable got sucked into the timestream. I don't know if taht was coincidence or not because that crossover killed my interest in comics for awhile. It caused mutants to lose control of their powers and hopefully make humans real angry at them. It wasn't quite mutant AIDS since it wasn't sexually transmitted. Eventually Moira MacTaggart got it somehow and she developed a cure except that it would kill whoever used it. Colossus did it. Then he got better.
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Jan 31, 2016 01:22
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Squizzle posted:David Haller's tiniest personality. Why.
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Jan 31, 2016 01:50
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WickedHate posted:Literally mutant AIDs. The writers actually said it wouldn't be cured until AIDs was, but...that took longer than they thought. That is half hilarious in a dark way and half sad. Squizzle posted:But you know how in the year 3863, the (sit-on-your-)fascist Swinger Tyrants, in an effort to kill the last remaining monogs, will release a plague whose only treatment is promiscuous sex? And how a team of science-rebels at the Matrimonyiat manage to re-engineer the plague to actually infect others via bodily fluids contact? And how they then launch their new anti-sex disease through a time-hole, to prevent the Swingers from ever rising to power? You are the hero this forum deserves
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Jan 31, 2016 02:58
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Endless Mike posted:The Legacy Virus was created by Stryfe and released at the end of X-Cutioner's Song when he and Cable got sucked into the timestream. I don't know if taht was coincidence or not because that crossover killed my interest in comics for awhile. It caused mutants to lose control of their powers and hopefully make humans real angry at them. It wasn't quite mutant AIDS since it wasn't sexually transmitted. Eventually Moira MacTaggart got it somehow and she developed a cure except that it would kill whoever used it. Colossus did it. Then he got better. OH it comes from That Era of X-men. I've mostly been focusing on Claremont and post 2000 era in my "hey read what you missed/forgotten" and was wondering why it gets mentioned a fair bit my X-fans but never actually explained. And of course its from Stryfe, like he could be worse?
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WickedHate posted:Literally mutant AIDs. The writers actually said it wouldn't be cured until AIDs was, but...that took longer than they thought. This is rather  for the time I guess. Let's show support to a suffering community...but no gay characters plz!
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Jan 31, 2016 03:40
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Well, you can kind of see the logic. Mutants are supposed to be civil rights allegories so since AIDs was seen as a "gay virus" mutants got the mutant virus. You know, like how in the Lee/Kirby run mutants had to drink at separate fountains.
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Jan 31, 2016 03:44
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twistedmentat posted:And that is Laura Kinney. Current Magik is a demonic Simulacrum of the dead Illyana or something like that if I remember correctly. comics
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Cocks Cable posted:This is rather Was Shooter still in charge at the time? I'd guess it's a bit after his time.
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Jan 31, 2016 05:35
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CharlestheHammer posted:I think current Magik is just her resurrected by Hel but technically without a soul. By Belasco specifically during post M-day academy X, but she got her soul back by the end of latest run of New Mutants as well as retrieving the lost bits of Pixie's soul.
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Lurdiak posted:I swear, someone could create a superhero called The Human Turd, and if she was female, she'd eventually be drawn super hot. And now I've remembered Wanted. Thanks for nothing.
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Cocks Cable posted:This is rather Gay people being like.. people in mass media is really kind of a recent development. It really loving slingshotted ahead in the last decade or so.
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Jan 31, 2016 11:14
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twistedmentat posted:And of course its from Stryfe, like he could be worse? The best part is how Styfe released the virus. He had built an elaborate torture chamber ON THE MOON to force Cyclops and Jean Grey to feel the cold, unrelenting pain of bad parenting. He asked Mister Sinister to capture them in exchange for a 'Gene Matrix' from the future. Sinister held up his end of the deal and Stryfe handed over a big elaborate suitcase. When Sinister opened the case, it just let out a little fart and was empty inside. That fart was the legacy virus! You might think Sinister would be patient zero, but no, that would make too much sense. I think this was right around the time when Stryfe dressed up like Cable and shot Xavier in the face.
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Jan 31, 2016 12:24
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A deal between a guy named Stryfe and a guy named Mr. Sinister is just bound to go wrong.
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Jan 31, 2016 12:31
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Maxwell Adams posted:The best part is how Styfe released the virus. He had built an elaborate torture chamber ON THE MOON to force Cyclops and Jean Grey to feel the cold, unrelenting pain of bad parenting. He asked Mister Sinister to capture them in exchange for a 'Gene Matrix' from the future. Sinister held up his end of the deal and Stryfe handed over a big elaborate suitcase. When Sinister opened the case, it just let out a little fart and was empty inside. Sinister is not a mutant.
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Rhyno posted:Sinister is not a mutant. I was going to say that, but given that he's messed around with his own genetics via augmentation through other mutant's genes, it's enough of a grey area that I don't think it's really worth debating. I mean he wasn't born with an X-gene but I'm sure there are some other mutants that the same is true of.
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Maxwell Adams posted:The best part is how Styfe released the virus. He had built an elaborate torture chamber ON THE MOON to force Cyclops and Jean Grey to feel the cold, unrelenting pain of bad parenting. He asked Mister Sinister to capture them in exchange for a 'Gene Matrix' from the future. Sinister held up his end of the deal and Stryfe handed over a big elaborate suitcase. When Sinister opened the case, it just let out a little fart and was empty inside. I am pretty sure it has sinister telling the doctor he is with to have a doctor look at that cough. Stryfe being a clone of Cable it was not too hard for him to dress up as himself. It was also part of revealing that Cable is Nathan Summers, and Stryfe thinking he was and being angry his parents abandoned him.
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Wasn't it implied Styfe was the actual Nathan Summers and Cable was the clone at first?
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