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ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Freedom from Muslims now! However did they infiltrate our defence forces?!?!?! Flee! FLEE!

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Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
It's printed by a printing shop I walk past every day in Milton, Brisbane. QLD.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

Anidav posted:

It's printed by a printing shop I walk past every day in Milton, Brisbane. QLD.

So are you happy with the quality of your order?

Colours all good? Happy with the font?

Magog
Jan 9, 2010

Graic Gabtar posted:

So are you happy with the quality of your order?

Colours all good? Happy with the font?

You cut the lines about us being anonymous and legion, you hack.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

Graic Gabtar posted:

So are you happy with the quality of your order?

Colours all good? Happy with the font?

Figured you worked there, patriot.

Redcordial
Nov 7, 2009

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

lol the country is fed up with your safe spaces and trigger warnings you useless special snowflakes, send the sjws to mexico
Operation Rolling Thunder is now being applied over Melbourne. It has been a while since I've heard bursts of thunder lasting for greater than 5 seconds, some even 10, it's quite surreal.

I'm so glad I stayed home to research and drink rather than meet up for a late-night motorbike ride.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

Redcordial posted:

Operation Rolling Thunder is now being applied over Melbourne. It has been a while since I've heard bursts of thunder lasting for greater than 5 seconds, some even 10, it's quite surreal.

I'm so glad I stayed home to research and drink rather than meet up for a late-night motorbike ride.

I just drove across town through it. Heaviest rains I've been stuck in for a bit.

Made it safely to the annoyance of many of you.

Redcordial
Nov 7, 2009

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

lol the country is fed up with your safe spaces and trigger warnings you useless special snowflakes, send the sjws to mexico

Graic Gabtar posted:

I just drove across town through it. Heaviest rains I've been stuck in for a bit.

Made it safely to the annoyance of many of you.

It was quite heavy wasn't it, my driveway even became an inch high and three metre wide stream of gushing water.

I've also been meaning to say something to you regarding you announcing some of your personal info in the recent past. I want to apologise for being so harsh in the past to some of my replies to various posts you had made, mostly pertaining to the treatment of asylum seekers and refugees.

The various calls for you to gently caress off etc were instantly recognized as a hasty and stupid move on my part when you disclosed some of the things you have faced and continue to face.

I hope you have a good night and rest of your weekend man, I appreciate your more open-minded contributions and will remember not to be so hasty in my agitation.

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

Redcordial posted:

It was quite heavy wasn't it, my driveway even became an inch high and three metre wide stream of gushing water.

I've also been meaning to say something to you regarding you announcing some of your personal info in the recent past. I want to apologise for being so harsh in the past to some of my replies to various posts you had made, mostly pertaining to the treatment of asylum seekers and refugees.

The various calls for you to gently caress off etc were instantly recognized as a hasty and stupid move on my part when you disclosed some of the things you have faced and continue to face.

I hope you have a good night and rest of your weekend man, I appreciate your more open-minded contributions and will remember not to be so hasty in my agitation.

Actually, you are wrong and Ciarg should gently caress off

Redcordial
Nov 7, 2009

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

lol the country is fed up with your safe spaces and trigger warnings you useless special snowflakes, send the sjws to mexico
Please don't interrupt my rare moment of kindness to strangers who have often exclaimed abhorrent views towards completely innocent people.

Or maybe do, we can have both of such things in this sophisticated world, can't we so?

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

Redcordial posted:

It was quite heavy wasn't it, my driveway even became an inch high and three metre wide stream of gushing water.

I've also been meaning to say something to you regarding you announcing some of your personal info in the recent past. I want to apologise for being so harsh in the past to some of my replies to various posts you had made, mostly pertaining to the treatment of asylum seekers and refugees.

The various calls for you to gently caress off etc were instantly recognized as a hasty and stupid move on my part when you disclosed some of the things you have faced and continue to face.

I hope you have a good night and rest of your weekend man, I appreciate your more open-minded contributions and will remember not to be so hasty in my agitation.

Thank you for your kind words. Unexpected I'll admit, but appreciated.

Don't feel bad about yourself in any way for how you have spoken to me previously. I have had a few interesting things said to me here, but by and large this has only been in response to my own poo poo posting.

There's no doubt I've said things over the months that some people have found offensive. Its clear to me now that I wasn't paying the people of the 'echo chamber' the respect they deserved. I regret that I would have had a much better time of it had chosen to listen for a much longer time before I spoke. Then doubling down and not caring if I was 'poking the bear'.

Probably, not a smart move in a room where most people are many times more clued into the topic at hand than you.

So what started as drive by trolling became a very interesting experience. I've learned a lot about how people see Australia through different eyes. That itself was worth the price of admission. That being said though, It's a shame I haven't been that good at explaining how I see some of our more contentious issues. Argumentative writing is not my strong suit. I think one valid criticism I have of this place is than any discussion has battle lines immediately drawn of being right, or being racist. I dont believe this always creates a great atmosphere for people to always be constructive in what they say.

This has turned out to be a response to everyone I think!

As for my own personal demons? Don't worry about that. I know hearing about it would bring joy to some people here second only to seeing be stabbed in the face but it's been the normal for so long I just roll with it. Fortunately for me the coin fell so that I have to be reeled in more than picked up so I guess you could call that luck.

Jonah Galtberg posted:

Actually, you are wrong and Ciarg should gently caress off
And even more luck Jonah!

You wish will very soon be coming true.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



Redcordial posted:

It was quite heavy wasn't it, my driveway even became an inch high and three metre wide stream of gushing water.

I've also been meaning to say something to you regarding you announcing some of your personal info in the recent past. I want to apologise for being so harsh in the past to some of my replies to various posts you had made, mostly pertaining to the treatment of asylum seekers and refugees.

The various calls for you to gently caress off etc were instantly recognized as a hasty and stupid move on my part when you disclosed some of the things you have faced and continue to face.

I hope you have a good night and rest of your weekend man, I appreciate your more open-minded contributions and will remember not to be so hasty in my agitation.

What things have they faced and continue to face that excuse or explain their disgusting opinions on asylum seekers ?

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

katlington posted:

What things have they faced and continue to face that excuse or explain their disgusting opinions on asylum seekers ?

let's not pry into someone's private life because of their political opinions expressed on the something awful forums, please

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

katlington posted:

What things have they faced and continue to face that excuse or explain their disgusting opinions on asylum seekers ?

your face

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Jaycar has offered to buy all Dick Smith Electronics retail store spaces.

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you
Ackerman today:

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
Miranda Devine

quote:

A CURIOUS aspect of the Australian of the Year award is that three of the eight finalists were involved in one of the greatest miscarriages of justice in Australian military history.

Former chief of Army David Morrison, his then speech writer, transgender ­officer Cate McGregor, and then Sex Discrimination Commissioner Elizabeth Broderick were central to the so-called Jedi Council sex scandal of 2013 that set the stage for Morrison’s feminist deification.

Described in the media as a “sex ring”, the Jedi Council was simply a closed email group of 17 male ADF personnel who received messages from former Army signaller Hastings Fredrickson, who used the Star Wars moniker on his laptop.

Between 2010 and 2013, Fredrickson, who worked for ­defence contractor Thales, sent explicit emails to the group detailing his sexual ­exploits, real or imagined. The “travel diaries” of “the Wolf of Woolloomooloo” were self-aggrandising amateur pornography, 50 Shades Of Grey for men. Women were “molls”, “sluts” and “whores”, and he was fixated on anal and “spit roast” sex.

Fredrickson, now 41, comes across as a repulsive predator, but his encounters were consensual. His most serious ­offence was to film himself having sex with an unsuspecting woman and sending screenshots to the group.

After Thales discovered the emails, he was sacked and the ADF was informed. Thales also contacted the Melbourne woman he had filmed.

Fredrickson has since been convicted of using a carriage service to cause offence and ­received a 15-month suspended jail sentence. Justice done and that is where the matter should have ended.

But this was the “misogyny” era of the Gillard government and it came in the wake of the 2011 ADFA scandal in which a cadet filmed himself having consensual sex with another cadet and broadcast it via Skype without her knowledge.

Defence Minister Stephen Smith ordered seven reviews and appointed Broderick to change the ADF’s attitude to women. Morrison implemented her recommendations and became her slavish admirer.

One former general says Smith “exploited the Skype scandal for his own ... popularity within the (Labor) party. He wanted to show he could bring the military to heel”.

Thus, Smith opened the door to the worst social engineering experiment in Defence history.

Morrison responded to the minor infractions of the Jedi Council with disproportionate ferocity, describing the case to senior brass as “worse than Skype”.

The speech McGregor wrote for Morrison in June 2013 was in direct response to the allegations. “There is no place for you among this band of brothers and sisters,” he thundered.

The speech went viral and is the main reason cited for ­Morrison’s Australian of the Year award. He was feted by the feminist establishment and shared a stage with actress ­Angelina Jolie at the UN as a result.

While soldiers were dying in Afghanistan, the Army was obsessed by gender. The unwitting members of the Jedi Council were sacrificial lambs.

In the end, eight soldiers were sacked, among them young career officers of impeccable standing, who had done serial tours of duty in Afghanistan. SAS commandos who suffered PTSD were crucified for doing nothing more than reply approvingly to a rankly sexist email.

Most emails went unanswered. Many were never opened. Yet officers were punished for having them on their email system.

Yes, the language they used is offensive. But it’s just talk, black humour and a few dirty pictures sent in private emails to friends.
Only Fredrickson had committed a serious offence in filming a woman without consent and sharing images.

“The battle for us blokes is we admit we did wrong by slapping this guy on the back and making a joke of his actions,” says sacked Army major “John”.

“But (our problem was) Morrison saw it as a platform to launch his agenda.”

John regrets the replies he sent Fredrickson. “Yeah f--ken oath I’d root her. Good work,” was one.
Or another he wrote while on deployment in the Middle East: “The Israeli molls are smoking hot.”

Sexist, yes. A sacking offence, absolutely not.

“We thought we’d get kicked in the arse for using the Defence email system inappropriately,” he said.

Yet the way the Army and the media behaved, you would think the soldiers were guilty of serious sexual offences. As one senior officer peripherally involved with the case says: “I assumed they had sexually assaulted women.”

Among the eight who were sacked were SAS commandos and other veterans of multiple tours of duty in Afghanistan. Some were suffering PTSD yet were ruthlessly discarded.

One Special Forces soldier was about to receive a Commendation for Distinguished Service for actions in warlike conditions in Afghanistan.
His relatives had flown to Canberra from interstate the day before the ceremony when he was told the award had been withdrawn.

These are men who put their lives on the line in service of their country and they have suffered the ultimate betrayal, crucified by the Army to satisfy a feminist agenda.

And now Australian of the Year has become a vehicle for this phony jihad.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

adamantium|wang posted:

Ackerman today:



The full article

quote:

WITHOUT doubt last week’s Australian of the Year was the most mismanaged and divisive event since former Prime Minister Julia Gillard was dragged out of a Canberra restaurant in 2012 by federal police, losing her shoe as she fled a group of Aboriginal protesters who had been urged to stage a demonstration by a member of her own staff. Video of that farce went viral within seconds.

This year, former general and former chief of army David Morrison was named Australian of the Year following his selection by a panel of unelected individuals on the basis of a speech on gender equality which he delivered but didn’t write.

It didn’t take a nanosecond for the custard to start flying.

Morrison’s principal protagonist was the person who wrote his speech, Malcolm McGregor, a transgender who prefers to be known these days as Cate, or Catherine.

While that may be McGregor’s preference, the biological reality, accepted universally since 1905 when Edmund Beecher Wilson and Nettie Stevens discovered the chromosomal XY sex-determination system and established this to the satisfaction of the scientific community, is that males have XY sex chromosomes and females have XX sex chromosomes.

McGregor may identify as a woman and may even, with the blessing of the politically correct military establishment, use women’s lavatories, but until the chromosomes undergo some miraculous alchemic transformation, McGregor ­remains by all biological and scientific rules, a bloke.

Just like Aunty Jack.

The lipstick and pearl twin-set wearing McGregor has one thing going in her favour in her bid to prove his femininity, however.

McGregor went off like a stereotypically jealous sheila over Morrison’s award.

The 17th century English poet William Congreve noted: “Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned,” usually written as “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”.

There is often more than a grain of truth in stereotypes.

McGregor was bizarrely nominated for the same award as Morrison by Queensland, where she hadn’t lived for nearly 43 years, apparently for having the courage to wear a dress.

There was a bloke named Richard Byron who used to perform as Carlotta, the lead drag queen and later the compere of Abe Saffron’s Les Girls when it was the focal point of Kings Cross, right beside the El Alamein fountain.

But no-one nominated him as Australian of the Year though he was undoubtedly better known to his fellow ­citizens than McGregor is ever likely to be and probably ­uttered more soothing words to the gender confused than the military reservist will ever utter.

McGregor, who wrote the only memorable words Morrison delivered in his years in the military, was mightily displeased by her former superior’s selection by the po-faced worthies who delivered the award from a somewhat lacklustre field of individuals nominated for doing what they were paid to do.

McGregor told the homosexual community’s newspaper, the Star Observer, that the choice was “weak and conventional” adding “he’s on a steep learning curve when it comes to LGBTI (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and ­intersex — thank you for asking) and trans issues”.

Morrison had apparently preferred to remain scientifically correct and not politically correct when McGregor started appearing in dresses as dress uniform, and referred to him as “Malcolm” and used male not ­female pronouns — a form of torture called “dead-naming” by those who think they can flick the gender switch with an application of lippie and a visit to the women’s wear department.

McGregor would have won my sympathy if the attack had been about Morrison politicising the award with his support for the dead Republican movement, but nevertheless.
Cate McGregor ‘remains by all biological and scientific rules, a bloke’, Piers Akerman says. Picture: Facebook


When The Australian newspaper asked McGregor about her attack on the man who had been of such assistance to the sexually confused within the military, she ­recanted and apologised for a “poor choice of words”.

McGregor’s principal beef is that the selection committee didn’t have the cojones to ­select an LGBTI person. That’s somewhat self-serving as she appears to have been the only one on offer.

But disregard that small issue, and the point is about the Australian of the Year award in general.

McGregor is apparently of the belief that it should have gone to a member of a minority group because — hey, if you’re a member of a minority, you’re entitled to take all the prizes, right?

Well, no, there’s nothing in the criteria that says the award should go to members of minority groups. The three main demands are that those nominated have demonstrated excellence in their field, have made a significant contribution to the community and nation and provided an inspirational role model.

That precludes all of this year’s nominees and throws a ­shadow on the selection of some recent recipients.

This fiasco highlights the problem faced by those asked to select the Australian of the Year, indeed, the problem starts with their ­selection.

They are unrepresentative of Australians and in their ­detachment miss the real values Australians admire.

They need to read The Sunday Telegraph to understand the nation and they could ­easily ignore 99 per cent of what is said or written by anyone who needs to stand on an academic qualification to gain stature in the community or, for that matter, is championed by the ABC.

Such a hissy fit — and the Mardi Gras is still a full month away.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



BBJoey posted:

let's not pry into someone's private life because of their political opinions expressed on the something awful forums, please


Redcordial posted:


regarding you announcing some of your personal info in the recent past.
Hardly sounds like prying.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Jan 31, 2016

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope
It's pretty hard for me to read Devine and Ackerman, especially the way I am right now, but am I right in thinking that they unleashed on Morrison on the same non-issue?

In other news, tried to find out why ScreamingLlama got probied and discovered they speak a strange language in the Eve thread.

Nibbles!
Jun 26, 2008

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

make australia great again as well please
Boys will be boys film themselves having sex without the other parties knowledge

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Starshark posted:

It's pretty hard for me to read Devine and Ackerman, especially the way I am right now, but am I right in thinking that they unleashed on Morrison on the same non-issue?

The most important part of the culture war is unity.

Redcordial
Nov 7, 2009

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

lol the country is fed up with your safe spaces and trigger warnings you useless special snowflakes, send the sjws to mexico

katlington posted:

Hardly sounds like prying.

It was public information provided at a particular point in time, you thick gently caress. If you actually had a sense of positioning and memory you would know it was earlier this month you brain dead slug.

And no, I will not repeat personal information that someone had shared in good confidence, even though it was shared publicly, I am not going to do your loving work for you.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Starshark posted:

It's pretty hard for me to read Devine and Ackerman, especially the way I am right now, but am I right in thinking that they unleashed on Morrison on the same non-issue?

In other news, tried to find out why ScreamingLlama got probied and discovered they speak a strange language in the Eve thread.

Devine is an apologist for sexual harrassment in the workplace, and minimising the impact that sexual harrassment has on not only the victims, but the reputation of the ADF. She attempts to shore up the shakiest argument with the classic "while soldiers were dying", which while true, doesn't count for poo poo because not addressing this issue wouldn't have saved soldiers from dying. The message sent by Defence was clear one, which is that sexual harrassment and objectification of women was not going to be tolerated. But won't someone think of the :qq: men, who were the real victims:qq:

Ackerman's piece presents a view which is so backwards we could use carbon dating on it to figure which prehistoric age it was dug up from. It's dangerous because the person/people it targets (transgender people) already suffer from a large amount of discrimination and misunderstanding, and this article does not help anyone who is a transgender be accepted. Phrases such as "the homosexual community's" really presents a "us vs them" mentality and reinforces the stereotype that trans people are these weird, hosed up, and wrong individuals. Unsurprisingly, it is exactly this view which causes trans people to commit suicide.

Devine's piece is poo poo, whereas Ackerman's article loving sucks rear end and is wrong regarding the universally accepted definitions for gender. It's so disgusting I don't even know where to begin, I could write an essay about it but just goddamn

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
I mean we could go back a few years and be like "Hmm, women don't deserve rights or a vote, it's scientifically proven that they have smaller brains" or "heh, black people are objectively biologically inferior to us, as well as being less cultured". The only thing that's changed is a few words

Redcordial
Nov 7, 2009

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

lol the country is fed up with your safe spaces and trigger warnings you useless special snowflakes, send the sjws to mexico

Recoome posted:


Devine's piece is poo poo, whereas Ackerman's article loving sucks rear end and is wrong regarding the universally accepted definitions for gender. It's so disgusting I don't even know where to begin, I could write an essay about it but just goddamn

I agree with your views towards both Devine and Ackerman, and also agree that Ackerman's position is a much more aggressively positioned one which seems to only have been written to incite hatred in my opinion.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Redcordial posted:

I agree with your views towards both Devine and Ackerman, and also agree that Ackerman's position is a much more aggressively positioned one which seems to only have been written to incite hatred in my opinion.

Yeah, I didn't want to cross that rubicon when I wrote my assessment on it. My assessment was that Ackerman has a bone to pick with transgender people and the accursed "PC" crowd, with Cate McGregor providing a useful platform to achieve this. I say this because a large part of the article is devoted to undermining the legitimacy of trans gender identity, rather than an opinion about how McGregor very poorly handled not winning that dumb award. I think she hosed up by doing what she did, but lets not go full loving transphobic here guys

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



Redcordial posted:

It was public information provided at a particular point in time, you thick gently caress. If you actually had a sense of positioning and memory you would know it was earlier this month you brain dead slug.

And no, I will not repeat personal information that someone had shared in good confidence, even though it was shared publicly, I am not going to do your loving work for you.

I haven't read every post in this thread. You can just link posts, it's easy. Why are you so angry?

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Jan 31, 2016

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop
This is AusPol if you aren't posting at obvious 'lost the plot' angry levels you clearly don't care enough and shouldn't be sullying our pristine thread with your milquetoast postings. Hmmmm toast.

Is anyone angry enough to tell me what Jay Weathrill's story is? On the one hand he is white anting Labour. On the other he is white anting Labour.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-29/jay-weatherill-budget-swipe-labor-and-liberals/7123330?section=sa

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Recoome posted:

Devine is an apologist for sexual harrassment in the workplace, and minimising the impact that sexual harrassment has on not only the victims, but the reputation of the ADF. She attempts to shore up the shakiest argument with the classic "while soldiers were dying", which while true, doesn't count for poo poo because not addressing this issue wouldn't have saved soldiers from dying. The message sent by Defence was clear one, which is that sexual harrassment and objectification of women was not going to be tolerated. But won't someone think of the :qq: men, who were the real victims:qq:

We just need to ask ourselves whether we want to end up like the US where "25% of military women have been sexually assaulted, and up to 80% have been sexually harassed".

quote:

Devine's piece is poo poo, whereas Ackerman's article loving sucks rear end and is wrong regarding the universally accepted definitions for gender. It's so disgusting I don't even know where to begin, I could write an essay about it but just goddamn

It also completely ignores anyone with Klinefelter syndrome, Turner syndrome and a bunch of others.

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Cartoon posted:

This is AusPol if you aren't posting at obvious 'lost the plot' angry levels you clearly don't care enough and shouldn't be sullying our pristine thread with your milquetoast postings. Hmmmm toast.

Is anyone angry enough to tell me what Jay Weathrill's story is? On the one hand he is white anting Labour. On the other he is white anting Labour.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-29/jay-weatherill-budget-swipe-labor-and-liberals/7123330?section=sa

As far as I can tell, he is a member of the ALP, which has a rich history of white anting itself.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



:confused: "Hey mate what's up, last week you hated them now you say they're alright?"


:kingsley:"How dare you want an informed opinion! You big idiot! How dare you want to know why I, who had an opinion like you, changed it so dramatically! I won't do your work for you! gently caress! I would never violate a persons privacy by linking their posts from earlier in the thread! gently caress! gently caress gently caress!"

:confuoot:

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Jay Weatherall is playing state politics, something he seems to be quite good at. Devine does her "all other women are competition therefore feminism is wrong, hello boys" thing again, and Ackerman is a disgusting gently caress who is probably overcompensating because that's some projection going on there. Sorry, not angry enough today.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Gorilla Salad posted:

We just need to ask ourselves whether we want to end up like the US where "25% of military women have been sexually assaulted, and up to 80% have been sexually harassed".


It also completely ignores anyone with Klinefelter syndrome, Turner syndrome and a bunch of others.

Oh but you see soldiers dying, also feminism bad

And yeah, there's a reason why purely relying on chromosomes to determine gender is horribly outdated (over 100 something years ago)

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Recoome posted:

Ackerman's piece presents a view which is so backwards we could use carbon dating on it to figure which prehistoric age it was dug up from. It's dangerous because the person/people it targets (transgender people) already suffer from a large amount of discrimination and misunderstanding, and this article does not help anyone who is a transgender be accepted. Phrases such as "the homosexual community's" really presents a "us vs them" mentality and reinforces the stereotype that trans people are these weird, hosed up, and wrong individuals. Unsurprisingly, it is exactly this view which causes trans people to commit suicide.

Just a friendly tip, don't use this phrasing next time, drop the a or change it to transgender person. Transgender is often seen as offensive when it's used as a noun rather than an adjective.

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

Gorilla Salad posted:

It also completely ignores anyone with Klinefelter syndrome, Turner syndrome and a bunch of others.

Look mate I did biology in high school for a semester so I know literally everything there is to know about gender and identity.

Quantum Mechanic
Apr 25, 2010

Just another fuckwit who thrives on fake moral outrage.
:derp:Waaaah the Christians are out to get me:derp:

lol abbottsgonnawin
Sorry about it being a few pages back:

Graic Gabtar posted:

Really? They have to re-order the text in that policy. Regardless, we're still going to have Lucas Heights for some time yet.

This is what I am attempting to do - and yes, we probably are. That's what I want the policy to recognise. Friends of the Earth act like we could close it now, that's ludicrous, and I am using the democratic means at my disposal to change the policy. It's going quite successfully.

Graic Gabtar posted:

Makes sense. Does this include just Lucas Heights or all the other sources that crop us as well? I'm assuming it would. Also, is it the policy though? Does it have to be voted for or can Di Natale just make it so?

In this case it's a state- and local-level initiative, RDN doesn't look into it. Since it's proposed to be stored at ANSTO, it's the Sutherland Greens who have carriage over what happens. Also, RDN can't make anything so - not without violating internal party processes. The most liberty the leader has is what stuff is focused on and what isn't for elections.

Graic Gabtar posted:

Well, we do export quite a bit of Uranium. You could argue we should have more of a role in a solution as we've contributed to a bit of the problem. The genie is out of the bottle. You can't un-mine it.

All the more reason to stop mining it. But yes, I could agree here, and if shipments are returned to us we can discuss it.

Graic Gabtar posted:

Where do The Greens stand on where it should be stored? The country where it was used or whoever puts their hand up for the cash? We have a very geological stable continent. Sounds like some serious coin could be made to fund our own renewable energy program.

We want what's coming in currently stored at ANSTO, where it can be overseen and protected. What's a cop-out is expecting to just dump it on Aboriginal tribal lands in exchange for payments they should be getting anyway.

Quantum Mechanic fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Jan 31, 2016

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE
:australia:

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Wizard Master
Mar 25, 2008

I am the Wizard Master

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