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Golden Gate Bride
Oct 23, 2008
knife to meet you
BREAKING NEWS: Corruption in Finland!

quote:

Jos vähän yksinkertaistetaan, keskeiset toimijat pyrkivät KKV:n mukaan estämään kilpailua kahdella tavalla. Firmat sopivat, että reittiliikennelupia ei markkinoiden avautumisen jälkeen haettaisi ”toisten” alueilta. Uusia tulokkaita ei myöskään päästettäisi kuljettamaan Matkahuollon paketteja. Lisäksi kilpailijoiden lippuja ei myytäisi eikä niiden aikatauluista tiedotettaisi Matkahuollon lipunmyynnissä.

Asioista sovittiin alan yhteisten elinten, usein Linja-autoliiton hallituksen, piirissä.

So matkahuolto and pals made a nice little arrangement to keep kermankuorijat and other filth from causing markkinahäiriöitä. :D

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Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008

Bbbbut we already have a pirate party :confused:

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010
Probation
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Herman Merman posted:

Bbbbut we already have a pirate party :confused:

Isn't the idea that Pirates want things to actually be free of government and corporate (as if there's a difference) control whereas Libertarians just want to literally enslave poor people, literally destroy the planet, and (quite often) rape any minor they want?

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
Libertarians are just conservatives who listen to Red Hot Chili Peppers, jog, and inject cabbanis.

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


Jerry Cotton posted:

whereas Libertarians just want to literally enslave poor people, literally destroy the planet, and (quite often) rape any minor they want?

Neoliberalism are preety much Libertarians of today.

If you want an example. Look at England.

Triple A
Jul 14, 2010

Your sword, sahib.

Extreme0 posted:

Neoliberalism are preety much Libertarians of today.

If you want an example. Look at England.

lol if you think british neolibs are libertarian

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


Triple A posted:

lol if you think british neolibs are libertarian

lol if you think british people will know the difference anyways.

Triple A
Jul 14, 2010

Your sword, sahib.

Extreme0 posted:

lol if you think british people will know the difference anyways.

they'd know if they got legal weed and machine guns

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


Triple A posted:

they'd know if they got legal weed and machine guns

They wouldn't because the Press will tell them otherwise.

British people are morons. There have been surveys that say that British people are wrong about everything.

And besides. Neolibertarians are not actual liberials in the classic sense, but good luck trying to convince any liberial retard in England.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
Gotta say letters of marque are a pretty great idea. Liberials aren't wrong about everything...

Fish of hemp
Apr 1, 2011

A friendly little mouse!
lol if you think british are people


Mulli posted:

BREAKING NEWS: Corruption in Finland!


So matkahuolto and pals made a nice little arrangement to keep kermankuorijat and other filth from causing markkinahäiriöitä. :D

And I bet these same people say that state owned companies are wrong because they mess the free competition.

Golden Gate Bride
Oct 23, 2008
knife to meet you

Fish of hemp posted:

And I bet these same people say that state owned companies are wrong because they mess the free competition.
Thing is Pohjolan liikenne is part of Vr-yhtymä :laugh:

throw to first DAMN IT
Apr 10, 2007
This whole thread has been raging at the people who don't want Saracen invasion to their homes

Perhaps you too should be more accepting of their cultures
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-germany-refugees-idUSKCN0V80IH
I guess this means that Merkel is hosed. Idk, maybe everyone should practice their goosestepping in preparation for brave new europe.

vuohi
Nov 22, 2004

Wow, this is super hypnotisk magnetisk.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!

vuohi posted:

Wow, this is super hypnotisk magnetisk.

Taika-Jim would be jealouise.

konna
Aug 1, 2005

Fish of hemp posted:

lol if you think british are people


And I bet these same people say that state owned companies are wrong because they mess the free competition.

In 2009 the system was still set up so that there were limited number of operators who could run certain routers. In essence the competition was artificially limited by permits which enabled the cartel to function.

Even VR has had to cut prices because of OnniBus. VR will lose its monopoly on passenger rail soon. You will see prices plummet even more.

Fish of hemp
Apr 1, 2011

A friendly little mouse!

konna posted:

In 2009 the system was still set up so that there were limited number of operators who could run certain routers. In essence the competition was artificially limited by permits which enabled the cartel to function.

But that doesn't mean they wouldn't still say how state owned businesses mess up free competition.

vuohi
Nov 22, 2004
This is a very concise blog post about what is wrong with VR's monopoly, if anyone's interested: http://www.soininvaara.fi/2007/12/16/tehotonta-oikeudenmukaisuutta/

Speaking of government monopolies, if any of you cultured people have watched some tv recently, maybe you too have noticed how ridiculously much Veikkaus has tv ads these days. They're on like every second commercial break of every single show. I don't really like that, given that I consider their product to have even less value than most others that can be called "entertainment".

vuohi fucked around with this message at 11:10 on Jan 31, 2016

Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008

konna posted:

Even VR has had to cut prices because of OnniBus. VR will lose its monopoly on passenger rail soon. You will see prices plummet even more.

The problem with VR train prices isn't lack of competition but rather the dumb cross subvention system used in the pricing. The parliament could simply change the policy, and replace cross subvention with direct subsidies for the unprofitable routes so that Kepu voters could still ride trains.

Fushigi Yuugi fansub
Jan 20, 2007

BUTT STUFF
lmbo if u watch tv :corsair:

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme
What I don't get is that why vital infrastructure like public transportation is even expected to be profitable.

throw to first DAMN IT
Apr 10, 2007
This whole thread has been raging at the people who don't want Saracen invasion to their homes

Perhaps you too should be more accepting of their cultures
http://www.iltasanomat.fi/kotimaa/art-1454209775808.html
Maahanmuuttovirasto couldn't find a tarpeeksi photogenic refugee family, Sipilä gets to keep his house.

He promised to find someone else's home for them tho.

hillo
Dec 19, 2012

by zen death robot

Puistokemisti posted:

http://www.iltasanomat.fi/kotimaa/art-1454209775808.html
Maahanmuuttovirasto couldn't find a tarpeeksi photogenic refugee family, Sipilä gets to keep his house.

He promised to find someone else's home for them tho.



pettää aina jne jne

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

This inkling is your FRIEND
She fights for LOVE
This government really can't keep their promises, can they?

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

Well he doesn't want his home to get petrol bombed. I can't blame him but maybe he should stop and think why that is a problem.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!

Fushigi Yuugi fansub
Jan 20, 2007

BUTT STUFF
poo poo that vasurit actually believe

DanTheFryingPan
Jan 28, 2006
Man, those suvakit and vassarit are so loving stupid, they're literally insane!

*throws polttopullo at vok*

OhYeah
Jan 20, 2007

1. Currently the most prevalent form of decision-making in the western world

2. While you are correct in saying that the society owns

3. You have not for a second demonstrated here why

4. I love the way that you equate "state" with "bureaucracy". Is that how you really feel about the state

Cerebral Bore posted:

In the interest of accuracy this didn't actually happen, and you left Scandipol in a huff because people were making fun of you for unironically linking to MV-lehti and other publications of a similar caliber when asked to back up your claims.

No, it was more that I kept posting articles and links to videos and everyone kept saying those were "isolated incidents". Funnily enough poo poo has gone so bad so quickly that even the most delusional Swede cannot ignore the facts anymore.

I think the critical point has been reached. More stuff will come out in the coming months. Sorry, I meant to say more "isolated incidents".

Cerebral Bore posted:

Or it might be that there's a minority of people who really dislike the idea of swarthy people existing in our fair land that has gotten louder about it. Or it might be that attitudes have polarized.

The problem with morons like you and everyone else in the ScandiPol thread is that you equate people who are against mass-immigration with people who dislike people of certain skin colour.

Cake Smashing Boob posted:

I can only speak for myself, obviously, but don't mistake my aversion to OhYeah-style “neekerit commits a crime” RSS-feed posting for a lack of concern. It is not, I assure you. Nor is criminal North-African vagrants and street children an issue that goes unnoticed generally, despite however much you imagine it to be the case.

You are not able to grasp what the issue is about.

Tell me why importing loads of people from cultures that don't share our core values such as freedom of speech and gender equality, who then completely fail to integrate to the society and culture they are moving to, is a loving good and positive thing that all countries around the world should emulate?

Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008

OhYeah posted:

The problem with morons like you and everyone else in the ScandiPol thread

Heh, the ol' "everybody is a moron except me" argument

Fushigi Yuugi fansub
Jan 20, 2007

BUTT STUFF
it is a scientific fact (literally) that D&D leftists are crazy champagne socialists detached from reality

DanTheFryingPan
Jan 28, 2006

OhYeah posted:

The problem with morons like you and everyone else in the ScandiPol thread is that you equate people who are against mass-immigration with people who dislike people of certain skin colour.

You can blame Hommaforum and thinly veiled racist screeds for that.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


OhYeah posted:

The problem with morons like you and everyone else in the ScandiPol thread is that you equate people who are against mass-immigration with people who dislike people of certain skin colour.

Most of the sites/videos you linked were literally made by those kind of people

There is plenty of immigration critical material available that isn't made by racists idiots but you didn't link any of that.

konna
Aug 1, 2005


No you don't

Cake Smashing Boob
Nov 5, 2008

I support black genocide

OhYeah posted:

You are not able to grasp what the issue is about.

Tell me why importing loads of people from cultures that don't share our core values such as freedom of speech and gender equality, who then completely fail to integrate to the society and culture they are moving to, is a loving good and positive thing that all countries around the world should emulate?

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that what you posit above 1) adequately describes the situation currently, 2) has ever been the explicit (or implicit) goal of Swedish asylum policy (and/or of the international treaties that inform and underpin the very same), further that a) I share these supposed beliefs, and/or b) am under any obligation whatsoever to validate your delusions. Neither of which is true.

Instead, I offer you this: go gently caress yourself.

throw to first DAMN IT
Apr 10, 2007
This whole thread has been raging at the people who don't want Saracen invasion to their homes

Perhaps you too should be more accepting of their cultures

Nauta posted:

it is a scientific fact (literally) that D&D leftists are crazy champagne socialists detached from reality

Stay Safe
Sep 1, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Nauta posted:

it is a scientific fact (literally) that D&D leftists are crazy champagne socialists detached from reality

you don't need to tell me twice. Those guys are [camera cuts to Nauta hunched over his keyboard that has the keys rajt kin faded] a bunch of friggin NUTJOBS!! :argh: They are loving NUTJOBS those idiots! All they do is hang out online, out of their mind as gently caress, and post a bunch of bullshit :hurr: those loving senseless, crazy, NUTJOBS!!!

*normal voice* Not only that, but the leftists are [camera cuts to ligur putting on an inside-out soldiers of odin jacket] loving heartless MORONS! They don't know half the words that come out of their mouth those idiot, retarded, and utterly shameful MORONS! Why do you ignore human loving kindness for your sense of a need for protection you don't loving require, you MORONIC NUTJOB :homebrew:

*calmly* I mean they probably this post is probably considered "poor form" because I am "stereotyping" and thus a "racist," but it's pretty obvious that they are [camera cuts to Geriatric Pirate waving a nazi flag] loving DETACHED from REALITY! YES YOU ARE loving DETACHED FROM REALITY YOU DELUSIONAL MORONIC NUTJOBS :omarcomin:

MORON.

NUTJOB.

Golden Gate Bride
Oct 23, 2008
knife to meet you

BrienneGetsHanged posted:

you don't need to tell me twice. Those guys are [camera cuts to Nauta hunched over his keyboard that has the keys rajt kin faded] a bunch of friggin NUTJOBS!! :argh: They are loving NUTJOBS those idiots! All they do is hang out online, out of their mind as gently caress, and post a bunch of bullshit :hurr: those loving senseless, crazy, NUTJOBS!!!

*normal voice* Not only that, but the leftists are [camera cuts to ligur putting on an inside-out soldiers of odin jacket] loving heartless MORONS! They don't know half the words that come out of their mouth those idiot, retarded, and utterly shameful MORONS! Why do you ignore human loving kindness for your sense of a need for protection you don't loving require, you MORONIC NUTJOB :homebrew:

*calmly* I mean they probably this post is probably considered "poor form" because I am "stereotyping" and thus a "racist," but it's pretty obvious that they are [camera cuts to Geriatric Pirate waving a nazi flag] loving DETACHED from REALITY! YES YOU ARE loving DETACHED FROM REALITY YOU DELUSIONAL MORONIC NUTJOBS :omarcomin:

MORON.

NUTJOB.

Fushigi Yuugi fansub
Jan 20, 2007

BUTT STUFF
triggered

ps. youre stereotyping me

Fushigi Yuugi fansub fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Jan 31, 2016

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OhYeah
Jan 20, 2007

1. Currently the most prevalent form of decision-making in the western world

2. While you are correct in saying that the society owns

3. You have not for a second demonstrated here why

4. I love the way that you equate "state" with "bureaucracy". Is that how you really feel about the state

Herman Merman posted:

Heh, the ol' "everybody is a moron except me" argument

Hey, I was playing nice there until the end. I specifically tried to refrain from personal insults while I was being called a racist, islamophobe, moron, idiot and so on in every post that was directed at me. I don't have to play nice anymore, do I?

Andrast posted:

Most of the sites/videos you linked were literally made by those kind of people

There is plenty of immigration critical material available that isn't made by racists idiots but you didn't link any of that.

Right... When I posted two very well researched academic papers challenging the almost universally held view that mass immigration entails economic benefits I received zero replies or comments. Everyone there just completely ignores facts when they don't fit the narrative. Posting mvlehti-style links at least provokes a response, even if it ends up with me being labelled a "super-racist".

I'll give you an example. I watched a pretty sad video the other day where a bunch of British nationalists went on a provocative march with crosses and other Christian symbols in a prominently Muslim neighbourhood in Luton, England. Do you think I identify with, or condone the actions of those people? Nope. But the reaction it provoked is what everyone should be focusing on.

Cake Smashing Boob posted:

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that what you posit above 1) adequately describes the situation currently, 2) has ever been the explicit (or implicit) goal of Swedish asylum policy (and/or of the international treaties that inform and underpin the very same), further that a) I share these supposed beliefs, and/or b) am under any obligation whatsoever to validate your delusions. Neither of which is true.

Instead, I offer you this: go gently caress yourself.

I know I should've labelled my post with a trigger warning.

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